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[Bugsie]

Well if I can't save my Sheps from my dead Xbox HDD I'll just have to replay the game again and make sure I get some tips from you!!

[Kim Shepard]

A lot of Renegade options are hilarious. It'll be hard not to take the krogan headbutt interrupt on Shepard #3 (who will turn out Renegade, possibly Renegon), but he's just not the type to headbutt anyone.

Hopefully you'll get to transfer your saves, Buggirl. I had no idea it was possible until I read some of the replies on this thread... but it sounds like it'll work as long as you don't buy the Slim. I've had an Elite for a few years and haven't had any problems. I really don't know much about how the technology works though. xD (This is why I don't have a gaming PC. System requirements with their common updates are too confusing.)

[Nilfalasiel]

@ Buggirl: Awww, my condolences about your Xbox! I'm pretty sure you should be able to recover your HD, but I wouldn't know the details. Can you maybe ask customer support about it? 

I know I almost freaked out when my Xbox gave me the 3 red lights about a week ago. It was really hot, so it was just protesting about temperature, but I did go  for a couple of minutes.

@ Tootles FTW: I'll bite the bullet and answer your post about The Communists (my favourite euphemism for that situation).

If Shep is careful, Garrus would never have to see anything. I wouldn't let ANYbody (especially not a guy) see that kind of thing, and I don't imagine why Shep would. Especially since Garrus isn't human, meaning that the squick factor could potentially be off the charts.

As for playing evil, that's also something I've never been able to do. Not in ME, not in DA. I had to exploit the Lorik glitch to get the Renegade achievement for ME1...I just can't find plausible justifications for some of the stuff it involves (killing people off in DA, randomly insulting people in ME), even if I see my Sheps as separate characters.

Concerning Renegade interrupts, I do take some of them, like zapping the guy on Garrus' recruitment, or headbutting the krogan ambassador (FemShep headbutting a krogan is just too funny to pass up), but really not that many. I actually listened to the entire speech of that krogan on Mordin's LM my first time through ME2 (I remember someone mentioning this a few pages ago). My second time through, I took the interrupt and distinctly felt guilty at hearing the burning krogan scream in pain. I think I'll be sitting through his speech again my next time through...

Conversely though, I didn't off Elnora my first time through. Can't quite fathom why, because she clearly tries to pull a gun on you after she tells you she's not dangerous. That's a Renegade interrupt I'll be taking again.

Oh yeah, and since I remember someone asking about it: pushing Niftu Cal is a Paragon interrupt. Because if you don't, he'll go off and get himself killed.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 15 juillet 2010 - 08:17 .

[Kim Shepard]

I was the one who asked about the Niftu Cal interrupt. In that case, now I know one Paragon interrupt Shepard #3 (eventually I'll just call them by name...) will take. He thinks Niftu Cal would get in the way during the fight, so that's his reason behind it.

[Bugsie]

We've had it for a while - I think Mr BG wants the new sexy slim one.... typical. Pacifen sent me to a website and I've been tinkering this afternoon - I'm hoping its just the power source thats the problem.



Its funny I don't have problems taking the renegade interupt if I know I have to fight and kill them anyway (I let Elenora go - but only the first time). The headbutt I never miss. I haven't been able to recruit Morinth on my Renegade run - but thats partially some bug I seemed to have encountered where the sound disappears during Samara/Morinths fight and you always end up choosing Samara, I think a few people have had that problem.

[Kim Shepard]

Good luck with the Xbox. That would be nice if it can still be fixed.

Recruiting Morinth will be one of the harder evil decisions for me. EvilShep will do it though. He really does like getting aliens with mind-control powers on his side.

[Nilfalasiel]

Buggirl70 wrote...

We've had it for a while - I think Mr BG wants the new sexy slim one.... typical. Pacifen sent me to a website and I've been tinkering this afternoon - I'm hoping its just the power source thats the problem.

Fingers crossed!

Its funny I don't have problems taking the renegade interupt if I know I have to fight and kill them anyway (I let Elenora go - but only the first time). The headbutt I never miss. I haven't been able to recruit Morinth on my Renegade run - but thats partially some bug I seemed to have encountered where the sound disappears during Samara/Morinths fight and you always end up choosing Samara, I think a few people have had that problem.

I think the gas tank just seemed too theatrically cruel to me. That krogan's scream is almost as unnecessarily protracted as his speech: it's like they were actually taunting you to take the Renegade interrupt and then rubbed it into your face by going "HA! so you would actually blow up a guy because he talked too much, now listen how painful it is".

Or maybe I'm just overanalyzing...When you think about it objectively, it's not that different from zapping the batarian on Garrus' RM. I guess the fact that it's just the one batarian and that Shep's being at least a bit more covert about it makes it more acceptable to me. And of course, the fact that I definitely know I'm helping Garrus survive by doing that. He's more than unfairly outnumbered in that situation, whereas Shep & co. can deal with that krogan and his minions without much trouble, even without resorting to the fuel tank.

Kim Shepard wrote...

Recruiting Morinth will be one of the harder evil decisions for me. EvilShep will do it though. He really does like getting aliens with mind-control powers on his side.

I know I've said it before, but recruiting Morinth is one of the most mind-boggling Renegade moves in the game, to me. Renegade Shep is ruthless, practical and puts the mission first, she/he is not stupid. Surely she/he MUST see that Morinth will kill, given half the chance, and that's exactly what happens when you try to romance her. She's just a ticking time-bomb, and while, yes, the mind-control is a nifty ability, there's also no guarantee that she'll only use it on enemies. If Renegade Shep has the success of the mission in mind first and foremost, that's a huge liability. The cons clearly outweigh the pros, IMO. Even if you look at it from a practical point of view. Or, should I say, especially if you look at it from a practical point of view.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 15 juillet 2010 - 08:54 .

[Kim Shepard]

EvilShep is willing to take possibly foolish risks when it comes to power. He's not foolish enough to mind-meld with her though. xD The guy does value his own life, despite all the risks.

As for the interrupts, I only remember one that I didn't like, and that was the Renegade interrupt to beat up Mouse on Thane's loyalty mission. It seemed unnecessary, and so... out in the open for anyone on the Citadel to see. Although, now that I think about it, there's a line in Earthborn-specific mission where Shepard basically says he/she could kill everyone in the bar and it wouldn't matter because of the Spectre status. Not all of my Shepards will keep their Spectre status in ME2 though, like my current MaleShep.

[Nilfalasiel]

Kim Shepard wrote...

EvilShep is willing to take possibly foolish risks when it comes to power. He's not foolish enough to mind-meld with her though. xD The guy does value his own life, despite all the risks.

 
What if she starts killing the other teammates? Shep might be on to her, but some of the other squaddies I can definitely see succumbing to her (is it wrong that Jacob is the first one that comes to mind? ) But I guess that qualifies as a possibly foolish risk.

As for the interrupts, I only remember one that I didn't like, and that was the Renegade interrupt to beat up Mouse on Thane's loyalty mission. It seemed unnecessary, and so... out in the open for anyone on the Citadel to see. Although, now that I think about it, there's a line in Earthborn-specific mission where Shepard basically says he/she could kill everyone in the bar and it wouldn't matter because of the Spectre status. Not all of my Shepards will keep their Spectre status in ME2 though, like my current MaleShep.

Yeah, I thought beating up Mouse was unnecessary too: the guy was already scared enough as it was. But then again, I also thought that punching Khalisah Al-Jilaani was unnecessary. Why even bother? So she's talking crap, but if you draw attention to her by brutalizing her, it'll actually help her case and work against you.

[SaltyWound]

Damn, this thread exploded. My own fault for not visiting enough.

Buggirl70 wrote...

Its funny I don't have problems taking the renegade interupt if I know I have to fight and kill them anyway.

This is the exact philosophy my Paragade MainShep has. If it's clear diplomacy isn't working and the current situation is going to end in violence no matter what she does...well, she'd have it sooner rather than later. My favorite example is in Miranda's loyalty mission, with Mr. "Look at my tech armor, isn't it cool?". Snapping his neck is so satisfying and seeing the salarian's expression never gets old.

Same with the batarian mechanic on Omega and the krogan on Mordin's loyalty mission, though both of those do seem a bit too cruel. If I had my way, my Shepard would have distracted the mechanic by telling him where his tool was and then shot him in the back of the head. The krogan...eh, he can burn. When he starts talking about how they'll eat salarian eggs (even if it was just hyperbole/posturing) I just got disgusted with him.

[Collider]

When he starts talking about how they'll eat salarian eggs (even if it was just hyperbole/posturing) I just got disgusted with him.

yea. That's when I decided just to shoot the tank. I got Mordin with me..

[lovgreno]

When in doubt ask yourself: What would Garrus have done?

I belive Garrus would have let that krogan burn to get the last word.

[Nilfalasiel]

lovgreno wrote...

When in doubt ask yourself: What would Garrus have done?
I belive Garrus would have let that krogan burn to get the last word.

Actually, Zaeed would've let the krogan burn. Garrus, especially Paragoned Garrus, would probably just have shot him between the eyes. I still maintain that the fuel tank is too theatrically cruel. Especially for someone like Garrus, who likes clean, surgical kills (according to what he says about the way him and his squad worked).

[Cra5y Pineapple]

I usually go renegade in ME2 because I have a fairly dark sense of humour and it's usually funny as hell. And people worried about the Krogan you gas-tank? It's just a game, and it's so ridiculously awsome. It shows Shepard knows his Physics.

And after playing ridiculous amounts of shooters, i'm used to screaming.

Modifié par Cra5y Pineapple, 15 juillet 2010 - 12:49 .

[Xsause]

So I just returned from my trip to London.



How's everyone doing?

[lovgreno]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

lovgreno wrote...

When in doubt ask yourself: What would Garrus have done?
I belive Garrus would have let that krogan burn to get the last word.

Actually, Zaeed would've let the krogan burn. Garrus, especially Paragoned Garrus, would probably just have shot him between the eyes. I still maintain that the fuel tank is too theatrically cruel. Especially for someone like Garrus, who likes clean, surgical kills (according to what he says about the way him and his squad worked).

Yeah that is right, I stand corrected.

[Sialater]

Buggirl70 wrote...

Oh well hugs from Garrus lovers in this thread and squashed peanut butter cups will have to suffice for now! Big Bughug back to all of you. Rob I especially like your sentiments, they ring so true.

This is my first ever RRD - We've had our Xbox for about 4 years now and its copped a hammering in that time.  Sad thing is can I save my ME games or will I have to start over????

As the victim of two RRODs, you'll have to start all over.

[Arhka]

Well, obviously Shepard needed to strip the krogan's armor before killing it, and fire is one of the best ways to that. Sniper rifle takes too long to take out and put one in his head, and after so, it may need repeated shots due to the durability of the krogan. I think Garrus could see it Shepard's way.

Modifié par Arhka, 15 juillet 2010 - 01:36 .

[Cerrydd]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Conversely though, I didn't off Elnora my first time through. Can't quite fathom why, because she clearly tries to pull a gun on you after she tells you she's not dangerous. That's a Renegade interrupt I'll be taking again.

Hahaha, I always let her go. My first PT I take all the entire paragon route and ignore all renegade interrupts (because I don't know what they do). Second game I do the renegade route to find out the other options. Third PT with my mainShep I mix and match whatever feels like 'me' (which turns out to be 99% paragon and some renegade interrupts). I let Elnora go, because I'm silly like that. Even though I now know she was the killer, it fits me to let her go.

Most renegade interrupts I take are to make a fight easier. I shoot the gas tank, no matter how cruel, because it gets rid of a krogan... and he's not Urdnot. I'm Urdnot all the way . Punching the reporter is pretty useless imo, the charm/intimidate options are a lot more powerful.

I'm also someone who has trouble playing 'evil' all the way. Though I have to say, doing renegade in ME is a lot easier than being an ass in DA:O.

Re: Tootles' question. LOL. Garrus wakes up in a bloodied bed. "Shepard! Are you hurt?" "No Garrus." "Then why are you bleeding... down there?" "Crap, looks like my period came a bit earlier than usual." "Your what?" Cue birds & bees talk. XD

Oh, and welcome back Xsause

[J4N3_M3]

Cerrydd wrote...
Re: Tootles' question. LOL. Garrus wakes up in a bloodied bed. "Shepard! Are you hurt?" "No Garrus." "Then why are you bleeding... down there?" "Crap, looks like my period came a bit earlier than usual." "Your what?" Cue birds & bees talk. XD

Oh, and welcome back Xsause

:lol::lol::lol::lol: Ya know, I've always wondered if female members of other species have to deal with that issue as well. Although I do believe that in 2185 they should be able to even control that so it just doesn't occur anymore unless it's wanted! Like, even today, you have certain birthcontrol pills that prevent you from having to deal with this every month.

I've been also wondering, can humans/Turians/Krogans actually mate with each other as in have kids together? I have to be honest, I never checked around the internet for that.

[battlechantress]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

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If Shep is careful, Garrus would never have to see anything. I wouldn't let ANYbody (especially not a guy) see that kind of thing, and I don't imagine why Shep would. Especially since Garrus isn't human, meaning that the squick factor could potentially be off the charts.
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The squeamish should stop reading here.

Okay, moving on....

Funny, because I have a story that I'm working on (pre-ME1) where a turian finds that on a female human and... understandably, he freaks out.  I can't imagine female turians having a menstrual cycle (I'm not saying they'll go into rampaging heat, but with their plates and all-- I'm assuming they're not that different from males in overall height, build, etc.-- I can't see them using maxi pads, if you know what I mean).  

I often wondered if Cerberus did something to make sure Shepard can't get knocked up in ME2.  I mean, think about it, the suicide mission would be a total failure (on a different level) if she's knocked up after meeting some guy on Omega (or wherever, however.  You know what I mean).  There are no "feminine supplies" on either version of the Normandy (hell, I don't recall even seeing toilet paper in the bathrooms.  Do we even want to know...? Good gravy, I haven't eaten yet, I'm not sure I want to go there right now).  Maybe Shepard and other human females of the 22nd century are using injectible forms of birth control or (more likely) implants.

The last method of birth control (implant) would probably apply to female turians in the military too (I highly doubt the generals would want to deal with "unwanted pregnancy" and have little to no tolerance for it).

Two hours until I bring the computer to a shop (again.  Yeah, it will be the third time in two weeks).   Yeah, the last tech got quite a chewing on the phone yesterday *cough*.

[Sialater]

There is an implant you can get now that reduces the cycle to four times a year.



I'd imagine Shep's got the 100th generation or so of that implant.

[battlechantress]

J4N3_M3 wrote...

I've been also wondering, can humans/Turians/Krogans actually mate with each other as in have kids together? I have to be honest, I never checked around the internet for that.

Nope.  Turians are, like quarians, dextro-based DNA species, krogans and humans are not.   The difference in the species' DNA makes it utterly impossible to have kids together (without adopting them).

And the next person who suggests "mutant babies" should go read "Bloodchild" by Octavia Butler.  

Modifié par battlechantress, 15 juillet 2010 - 02:13 .

[J4N3_M3]

Sialater wrote...

There is an implant you can get now that reduces the cycle to four times a year.

I'd imagine Shep's got the 100th generation or so of that implant.

yeah, I think that too! Do you think they will have found a cure for AIDS? If not, will it be contagious for other species? What about other species and their STDs? 

[Sialater]

J4N3_M3 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

There is an implant you can get now that reduces the cycle to four times a year.

I'd imagine Shep's got the 100th generation or so of that implant.

yeah, I think that too! Do you think they will have found a cure for AIDS? If not, will it be contagious for other species? What about other species and their STDs? 

I'm gonna put on my rose-colored glasses and say that other than scale-itch (which sounds minor) there are no more STDs.