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gothicessence wrote...

Hello all, i'm reposting a link to the Garrus plushie since I saw it mentioned earlier. Image IPB
http://gothicessence...t.com/#/d2sjwk0


I added it to the OP! I hope you don't mind.

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gothicessence, that plushie is freakin' amazing...you used 23 pieces for his head alone?

How long did this all take you?? I'm still so impressed. :)

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kglaser wrote...

Too much fabulous would scare away everyone. XD


True, dat. The Fabulous Universe thread is a bit scary itself.

At least none of the poll options have the word bananas in them. ^_^

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Rebe70 wrote...

Okay, I did warn you guys. And now I feel just wrong :blink:

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Thanes body with Garrus's humour, personality and voice, talk about an upgrade! He shouldn't have any creepy flashbacks about sex with his dead wife either so, that's a win . Naw I'm just being a ****, thane is my second favourite of the male romances despite his problems. Yes he has a LOT of baggage, yes he's dying, yes the female gamers are the ones that get the friggin single parent because the  male gamers would find it OUTRAGEOUS if one of the female LI's were a single mother Image IPB *cough*  DESPITE all this, he is sweet, he holds your hands, you get to kiss the guy (I just wanted a not-difficult-to-animate HUG from Garrus, come on bioware!) he calls you something other than Shepard which was touching, he is sexy looking (I like Garrus better though)  and he makes the first big move by telling you he cares for you.

It was lovely and sad at the same time because Garrus knew Shepard FAR longer than thane yet...Garrus never got a chance to say how he felt about her in words, he says "respect" and calls you a "friend" but he never SAYS anything that indicates love or something close to it like Thane and...uh,Jacob. Shepard does tell  Mordin she cares about Garrus but even Shepard doesn't say it directly to Garrus either.

Now we fans KNOW its love, not a “fling” but an unspoken love that is shown as the conversations progress and the final scene happens. But I just want some verbal confirmation just to stop all the “fling” accusations , I mean, some people actually compare Garrus’s romance with Kelly’s, urgh.  Jacob , the most disliked romance in the mass effect series, EVER is ironically the FIRST LI to tell you that he loves you! And about 5 femshep players got to appreciate it *is laughing* meanwhile the rest of us made this face " Image IPB...theres more right?"  when the Garrus romance abruptly faded to black, it’s so unfair its comical.

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Aricle wrote...

kglaser wrote...

Too much fabulous would scare away everyone. XD


True, dat. The Fabulous Universe thread is a bit scary itself.


LOLZ, thank goodness it's in the group thread... XD

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gothicessence wrote...



Hello all, i'm reposting a link to the Garrus plushie since I saw it mentioned earlier.

http://gothicessence...t.com/#/d2sjwk0




That is amazing work! Thank you for sharing it again.

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Andaius20 wrote...

Buggirl70 wrote...

@Andaius - if Garrus is giving free hugs my arms are open.

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wish granted. <3^_^

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I just went for a walk around the campus and saw a cute baby alpaca - just born over the weekend, that and a hug from GV has made my Monday.

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Chimervera wrote...

gothicessence wrote...

Hello all, i'm reposting a link to the Garrus plushie since I saw it mentioned earlier. Image IPB
http://gothicessence...t.com/#/d2sjwk0


I added it to the OP! I hope you don't mind.


Yeah thats fine :)
Well it was about 3 weeks in total and I worked on it for a minimum of about 2 hours a night. I took a few days off though because I had to go and get more felt and if I didn't it would have driven me insane lol. My sewing machine was also broken so its entirely hand sewn.

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Aricle wrote...

Thought of Andaius when in the Antaeus system last week. Coincidence of name choice?

The poll is a good idear, nice to have our own shiny new name.
No Fabulous turian Universe? :P


oh some one thought of me! Da'awww!
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you gets oen too! :lol:

Also hmm Femshep trying too hard or Garrus really this Irrisistable?
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Andaius20 wrote...

Also hmm Femshep trying too hard or Garrus really this Irrisistable?
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Doesn't it prove that Garrus is not that into you? XP

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I don't know why Femshep thought the boobies would get him all hot and bothered...he was probably like, "Aaagh...what are those things? Let me get you some ice for that swelling!" XD

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Alexine wrote...

Doesn't it prove that Garrus is not that into you? XP


Yup.  Cerrydd's work proves it further:
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Bro hug extreme!

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I don't know why Femshep thought the boobies would get him all hot and
bothered...he was probably like, "Aaagh...what are those things? Let me
get you some ice for that swelling!" XD

And let perfectly good boobies go to waste? *hanghhh*

Modifié par Andaius20, 28 juin 2010 - 05:06 .


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Yes I responded to my own post with a garrus response pic! :)

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Haha Andaius, you seely :D

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kglaser wrote...

Haha Andaius, you seely :D

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Okay, so I've started up my Pure Paragon in ME1 (I'm absolutely avoiding all possible Renegade Points in this playthrough, and it's gonna be hard to do) after finishing my Renegon playthrough. But that's beside the point.



I was poking through the codex entries, and some very interesting information came to light in the C-Sec entry. Basically, most C-Sec officers already had some years of distinguished military service behind them in either the military or police forces back home. But we can guess that this is not likely the case for Garrus, whom the developers have said is under 30 years old (possibly around Shepard's age; Shepard was born in 2154 and ME1 begins in 2183 so Shep is 29 years old). Therefore, it could be deduced that he's one of those who got a recommendation from the Councilor or one of the ambassadors of "an associate Council race" as described by the codex. The codex implies that most C-Sec members aren't very young, but young members may be accepted based on skill.



Now, how this relates to Garrus: Who recommended Garrus to C-Sec? We know he's skilled. He was a Spectre candidate. Somehow I doubt our friendly turian council member had anything to do with it. So would it have been the turian ambassador? You know, the guy we never met before? I just can't imagine that Garrus was involved in some major military campaign that he didn't tell Shepard about. I guess it's possible, and might have led to the Spectre candidacy, but the cues I get hint more toward his having just been that skilled.



Further of note is that there are six different branches of C-Sec, and Garrus could fit into three of the six. I would have thought he'd be in Enforcement, but I'm pretty sure that he was investigating Saren, which might mean he was a Detective. However, because the people he's been sent against are pretty high-profile, it also wouldn't surprise me if he were in the Special Response division. After all, a Spectre is pretty heavily armed and he was involved with the Saren case. Of course, Garrus never specifies this to Shepard, to my knowledge. Thoughts?

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I thought he was former Military, wasn't that what his "reach and flexibility" story was about? An instance in his past military career?

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Brass_Buckles wrote...

Okay, so I've started up my Pure Paragon in ME1 (I'm absolutely avoiding all possible Renegade Points in this playthrough, and it's gonna be hard to do) after finishing my Renegon playthrough. But that's beside the point.

I was poking through the codex entries, and some very interesting information came to light in the C-Sec entry. Basically, most C-Sec officers already had some years of distinguished military service behind them in either the military or police forces back home. But we can guess that this is not likely the case for Garrus, whom the developers have said is under 30 years old (possibly around Shepard's age; Shepard was born in 2154 and ME1 begins in 2183 so Shep is 29 years old). Therefore, it could be deduced that he's one of those who got a recommendation from the Councilor or one of the ambassadors of "an associate Council race" as described by the codex. The codex implies that most C-Sec members aren't very young, but young members may be accepted based on skill.

Now, how this relates to Garrus: Who recommended Garrus to C-Sec? We know he's skilled. He was a Spectre candidate. Somehow I doubt our friendly turian council member had anything to do with it. So would it have been the turian ambassador? You know, the guy we never met before? I just can't imagine that Garrus was involved in some major military campaign that he didn't tell Shepard about. I guess it's possible, and might have led to the Spectre candidacy, but the cues I get hint more toward his having just been that skilled.

Further of note is that there are six different branches of C-Sec, and Garrus could fit into three of the six. I would have thought he'd be in Enforcement, but I'm pretty sure that he was investigating Saren, which might mean he was a Detective. However, because the people he's been sent against are pretty high-profile, it also wouldn't surprise me if he were in the Special Response division. After all, a Spectre is pretty heavily armed and he was involved with the Saren case. Of course, Garrus never specifies this to Shepard, to my knowledge. Thoughts?

In my frenzy of research on Turian culture and Garrus for my latest fanfict - I speculate it was actually Garrus's father who maybe put him forward (although I can't verify that as my recollections of conversations in ME regarding his father were just that he was very strict by the book kind of turian.)  His father was a well regarded/respected C-Sec investigator.

Garrus has had several years of military service - from the age of 15, I speculate that maybe he moved to C-Sec in his early 20's maybe at 25 at the latest.

Modifié par Buggirl70, 28 juin 2010 - 04:59 .


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Night folks, expect to see more screenshots from you Rebe so I can respond! :P

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Night Andaius.

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Andaius20 wrote...

Aricle wrote...

Thought of Andaius when in the Antaeus system last week. Coincidence of name choice?


oh some one thought of me! Da'awww!
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you gets oen too! :lol:


Ahhh, warm fuzzies abound. Thank you, whenever you next appear.

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Brass_Buckles wrote...

Further of note is that there are six different branches of C-Sec, and Garrus could fit into three of the six. I would have thought he'd be in Enforcement, but I'm pretty sure that he was investigating Saren, which might mean he was a Detective. However, because the people he's been sent against are pretty high-profile, it also wouldn't surprise me if he were in the Special Response division. After all, a Spectre is pretty heavily armed and he was involved with the Saren case. Of course, Garrus never specifies this to Shepard, to my knowledge. Thoughts?


Playing ME1 again and when I talk to Garrus, he tells me that he used to work on the Presidium ('not much real crime here') and had an office in C-Sec ('mostly paperwork'). He also mentions the Wards and being able to buy whatever you want. It seems as if he at least patrolled much of those areas in one capacity or another. With Saleon, it seems he was then investigating cases, a promotion?

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Andaius20 wrote...

I thought he was former Military, wasn't that what his "reach and flexibility" story was about? An instance in his past military career?


He's former military, but the codex implies that he'd have needed years of distinguished service (possibly on par with Shepard who is put forward as a Spectre, but taking longer) to be recommended that way.  Technically all turians are former military--they enlist at age 15, even if they're infirm according to Garrus in ME1.  Yup.  Even the handicapped turians are part of the military and willing to serve on the front lines.  Gotta love those turians.

And to the person thinking maybe Garrus's dad put him forward:  His father would have needed to be either Councilor Velarn or the turian ambassador to do so.  The codex says nothing about recommendations from other C-Sec officers.  Of course, his dad was C-Sec so it's possible that he was put forward by the Councilor or the turian ambassador due to that.  However, we also know that Garrus is very skilled (or he wouldn't have been a Spectre candidate).  And he's young (while I would've otherwise been inclined to believe he's in his early 30s, I've heard the devs have mentioned before that he's in his 20s. I don't know if that's as of ME1 or ME2's timeline), though I guess he's had plenty of time to build a good military career--it's just that it sounds like he's been C-Sec for a while (several years) by the time Shepard first meets him.

That said, it's also totally possible that Garrus's father is in fact the turian ambassador.  We know he retired from C-Sec and we also know that Daddy V. is apparently someone important, even if only because of who he was or what he did at C-Sec.  We haven't met Garrus's father, and we haven't met the turian ambassador, just the Executor of C-Sec, which is probably not the same thing since I'm sure the Executor of C-Sec could be of any race that has C-Sec officers (turians just have an edge).

Speaking of Garrus's father... I know we know nothing about his mother, but we also have no clue if he may have siblings.  While he does strike me in some ways as being an only child, his uncertainty when you first meet him definitely strikes me as more a "youngest of several children" attitude.  If he has siblings, you'd think he'd have mentioned them by now, but then again he's more inclined to tell stories about C-Sec and the military than anything too personal--the most personal things he's let on about are that he doesn't get along with dear ol' dad and that he enjoys casual sex with random turian recon scouts he otherwise doesn't get along with.  But that aside, siblings:  If he has them, his father may have pressured him even more if his siblings were doing something with their lives that he approved of more.  Just a thought.

And re: to Aricle.  A good point.  He must have been enforcement at some point, but I think most of us realize that Garrus is supposed to be a very smart guy. If he had an office doing paperwork, then that probably means he was put to detective work.  Maybe he was more investigating Saren than hunting him down.  It might have been a promotion, or it might mean that Garrus got in trouble while working enforcement.  He also seems to have been a uniformed officer (the armor), which detectives apparently aren't in C-Sec.  With the office comment (which I remember now that you bring it up), I'm pretty sure he'd have been a detective.  Still, that doesn't preclude the possibility that our fave turian got shuffled around because he couldn't behave himself like a proper turian.  Or maybe he just refused to be pigeonholed into one department.  He seems to be a man of action more than a man of paperwork and evidence.

Modifié par Brass_Buckles, 28 juin 2010 - 05:35 .


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You know...I don't think there is, technically, a turian Ambassador. I believe he's "promoted" to Councilor. Nobody takes Udina's old job in ME2 - I believe Ambassador in the Citadel context is "Ambassador to the Citadel Council" and thus only a relevant title for non-Council races.