Brass_Buckles wrote...
Andaius20 wrote...
I thought he was former Military, wasn't that what his "reach and flexibility" story was about? An instance in his past military career?
He's former military, but the codex implies that he'd have needed years of distinguished service (possibly on par with Shepard who is put forward as a Spectre, but taking longer) to be recommended that way. Technically all turians are former military--they enlist at age 15, even if they're infirm according to Garrus in ME1. Yup. Even the handicapped turians are part of the military and willing to serve on the front lines. Gotta love those turians.
And to the person thinking maybe Garrus's dad put him forward: His father would have needed to be either Councilor Velarn or the turian ambassador to do so. The codex says nothing about recommendations from other C-Sec officers. Of course, his dad was C-Sec so it's possible that he was put forward by the Councilor or the turian ambassador due to that. However, we also know that Garrus is very skilled (or he wouldn't have been a Spectre candidate). And he's young (while I would've otherwise been inclined to believe he's in his early 30s, I've heard the devs have mentioned before that he's in his 20s. I don't know if that's as of ME1 or ME2's timeline), though I guess he's had plenty of time to build a good military career--it's just that it sounds like he's been C-Sec for a while (several years) by the time Shepard first meets him.
That said, it's also totally possible that Garrus's father is in fact the turian ambassador. We know he retired from C-Sec and we also know that Daddy V. is apparently someone important, even if only because of who he was or what he did at C-Sec. We haven't met Garrus's father, and we haven't met the turian ambassador, just the Executor of C-Sec, which is probably not the same thing since I'm sure the Executor of C-Sec could be of any race that has C-Sec officers (turians just have an edge).
Speaking of Garrus's father... I know we know nothing about his mother, but we also have no clue if he may have siblings. While he does strike me in some ways as being an only child, his uncertainty when you first meet him definitely strikes me as more a "youngest of several children" attitude. If he has siblings, you'd think he'd have mentioned them by now, but then again he's more inclined to tell stories about C-Sec and the military than anything too personal--the most personal things he's let on about are that he doesn't get along with dear ol' dad and that he enjoys casual sex with random turian recon scouts he otherwise doesn't get along with. But that aside, siblings: If he has them, his father may have pressured him even more if his siblings were doing something with their lives that he approved of more. Just a thought.
And re: to Aricle. A good point. He must have been enforcement at some point, but I think most of us realize that Garrus is supposed to be a very smart guy. If he had an office doing paperwork, then that probably means he was put to detective work. Maybe he was more investigating Saren than hunting him down. It might have been a promotion, or it might mean that Garrus got in trouble while working enforcement. He also seems to have been a uniformed officer (the armor), which detectives apparently aren't in C-Sec. With the office comment (which I remember now that you bring it up), I'm pretty sure he'd have been a detective. Still, that doesn't preclude the possibility that our fave turian got shuffled around because he couldn't behave himself like a proper turian. Or maybe he just refused to be pigeonholed into one department. He seems to be a man of action more than a man of paperwork and evidence.
Good Qs, brass... I bolded parts of your post that I want to comment upon...
remind me where does Garrus say that about turian infirm in military? Not that far into ME1 re-play yet.
I never considered his father being the turian ambassador, I always interpreted it as Garrus' impression of his father's disappointment in him, maybe growing up and only then realizing his dad was some V.I.P. and not the father he thought. As in, learning his father was important explained why he never felt he made his father happy but also made him see the gulf between them increase. The idea that he is, in fact, the ambassador makes sense for me as a possibility. I have a new perspective now.
I've often wondered about Garrus' being able to 're-apply for Spectre training'. Shepard never applied and was unaware of being considered for Spectrehood. Is the option to apply for Spectre training a turian thing?
I think that he was investigating Saren b/c he says that he couldn't find anything on him and asked for more time, when meeting him at the Council steps talking to superior. I think he might have started on patrol as human police do, then some paperwork since part of having more responsibility usually means documentation. Seems to me that Saleon got to him b/c the evidence was right in front of him in these people's bodies and it had to be dealt with according to principles written in stone (paper). This set the scene for the failure to get more time to ferret out evidence on Saren causing him to go where things 'could be done right' w/o waiting for regulations to approve: i.e. with our hero/ine Shepard.
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