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[Bugsie]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Indeed Empires is good. If you can tolerate really, REALLY slow paced documentaries that are kind of old and don't do reenactments than anything by Ken Burns on American history is extremely informative. His Civil War series in particular is really nice.

Everything I know about American History I learnt through Ken Burns documentaries.  I like the one they did on the explorers Lewis and Clarke and the one on Jazz.

Modifié par Buggirl70, 22 juillet 2010 - 04:50 .

[Alexine]

kglaser wrote...

I know I love American history less than I should. I'm sorry, but it just bores me to death. /disclaimer: I am an American
(And, there's no turians in it, so...no.)

Try doing early colonial Australian history. It's more dull and boring than American until you hit federation (which is 1900s) I used to hate Australian history until I did a course in the relationship between Asia and Australia, which was very interesting. 

[Evil_Nerjuna]

Alexine wrote...

I can sort of tell that I never want to live in a Turian scoiety. Even with all its glam and my love for turians *ahem*Garrus*ahem*, the term "hierarchy" gives it all away. Reading bits and pieces of Taetus is interesting, but at the same time rather unpleasant. They seemed rather uptight at times (i.e. Turian Councilor) and it does work short-term (doing history demonstrate tight rein works), but I find it interesting that the turian hierarchy had lasted for such a long time. Or maybe it's just creative freedom on part of BW writers.

Thanks for the warm welcome here guys.

So... Turian society in general. That's an interesting school of thought how the Hierarchy government managed to last for a couple of centuries now. While the turian race are much more civil then they look (I think Harbinger once said that the turians are too primitive for their liking), I think it all boils down to their racial instinct. While humans in general are tend to be flexible and self reliant due to our survival instinct, turians seem to prefer an orderly structure and reliance with each other at times. I'm not sure how the evolutionary process goes back in Palaven but from the sounds of it, their instinctive survival were based in mutual trust where the turians trust each other without question when in comes to survival, unlike the humans who tends to second guess the other person due to evolution growth of  having a "pragmatic" approach when it comes to survival.

That's probably why the tier social status seem to last longer than human history could hold onto, their racial instinct is based on social reliance, hence they placed their trust onto another turian since they believed other other person can get the job done without questions or second guessing. Also it kinda explains why their society were based on the militant stance, as a way of disiplining the turians about doing their duty properly, while drilling their heads about the importance of keeping that mutral trust in line.

Another proof that turians are much more social connected than most people first see, is the certain taboo that is explain from the codex. Turians tend to frown upon anyone abandoning their team behind, hence the idea of breaking that mutual trust. That's explains why Garrus is much more agitated when it comes to the mole in his team, especially if that person who betrayed him in the question was also a turian, the betrayal must have hit him harder than usual to the human eyes.

Edit: Crap, sorry if my replies are a little too slow at times.

Modifié par Evil_Nerjuna, 22 juillet 2010 - 04:53 .

[Bugsie]

Alexine wrote...

kglaser wrote...

I know I love American history less than I should. I'm sorry, but it just bores me to death. /disclaimer: I am an American
(And, there's no turians in it, so...no.)

Try doing early colonial Australian history. It's more dull and boring than American until you hit federation (which is 1900s) I used to hate Australian history until I did a course in the relationship between Asia and Australia, which was very interesting. 

I second that Alexine, Australian history is boooooring.  However, I like the explorer stuff.  Mmmm I seem to like the idea of wandering around with absolutely no clue as to what lies beyond a known map. 

@Raga, that one on Lewis and Clarke totally sucked me in, I still vividly recall when they talked about reaching one part of the river and there were bears, scary angry grizzly bears.

Modifié par Buggirl70, 22 juillet 2010 - 04:56 .

[kglaser]

Evil_, I'm glad you decloaked...it seems you will have a lot to contribute here. And of course you are welcome here



Well guys, I have to go to bed, but it was fun while it lasted. I only have 5 hours to try and have that elusive Garrus dream before I have to wake up again. See you later.

[Bugsie]

Old west stuff I'm not so familiar with, however if its anything like they depicted in Deadwood then  it couldn't possibly be boring!

I have Red Dead Redemption on my to do list, but I promised myself to play Bioshock 2 before I did.

Modifié par Buggirl70, 22 juillet 2010 - 05:01 .

[Andaius20]

I always liked history too. Interesting to see how the social dynamics work out. what lead to what and what happened because of it.

[Pacifien]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
Exactly Nerjuna. I think a lot of people who grow up in democracies*snip*

A lot of people who grow up in democracies don't realize they don't live in a democracy.

[Andaius20]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Plus I could never see how stuff like the Old West was boring. I eat that stuff up. I loved the crap out of Red Dead Redemption.

*plays dramatic music as he stars down Ragabul as the camera zooms in on our eyes.*


Man I liked those movies

[J4N3_M3]

Good morning everyone. I see you discussed fanfiction a few pages back. I may have mentioned it before but I'll do it again, maybe someone wants to check it out. I started a new fanfic about my current Shep, trying to write down, how she went from ParagonME1 to RenegadeME2. Also, I think, it will most likely come to the Garrus romance, since Kara is romancing him in the game. Maybe someone wants to read it.

Last chapter needs to be re-done but I put it up last night before I went to bed anyway.

[Collider]

Red Dead Redemption

[Bugsie]

There is so much we don’t know about how politics work in other countries. I was listening to a radio show yesterday and they were talking about the political and social history of Kyrgyzstan since it was absorbed by the Soviets in the 20’s, (mainly because of the recent uprisings there) I have a friend who came from there, so I was interested in hearing about it – as it turns out most of the people who live in Kyrgyzstan liked being under communism. They hate Gorbachev, and talk with fond memory of Brezhnev.

[Andaius20]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
Exactly Nerjuna. I think a lot of people who grow up in democracies*snip*

A lot of people who grow up in democracies don't realize they don't live in a democracy.

Could you clarify this statement please?  I think I know what you mean, but in the interest of not making anyone mad I want to make sure.

Do you mean like how technically we aren't a Democracy, we're a democratic republic? 

[Pacifien]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
Could you clarify this statement please?  I think I know what you mean, but in the interest of not making anyone mad I want to make sure.

Just the literal definition of democracy, which I think you think you know what I meant.

But probably doing a drive-by political commentary without linking it to Turian discussion is a misstep on my part. It only goes downhill for me here so.... yeah... Garrus.

[Evil_Nerjuna]

I was about to get Red Dead Redemption, but the price over in Australia over here is a sin at the moment, so I have to wait around for a few months before it get to a reasonable price range. So have fun with the game. In the meantime I've just managed to pick up Deus Ex 1 and 2, looking forward to that once I've finished most of my Uni work. Then course... other games I have to finish... I blame the mega sales at EB. I think I've brought like 9 games this month.

As for history, I do agree Australian History is boring at times but there are some moments in the Australian History were interesting and at times... unsettling. The Stolen Generation backstory is still in my mind after I've studied it back in high school.

I do enjoy looking through the French Revelution Era and WW2 period.

As for politics and turians, I've merely observed at the codex and compare it to the biological evolution. I'm not that through when it comes to the details with politics. Although I do admit that the turian cuture reminds me of the Spartans in the old Greek history.

Modifié par Evil_Nerjuna, 22 juillet 2010 - 05:29 .

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Someone needs to put a cowboy hat on top of garrus.

[Kim Shepard]

I was online most of the day when no one else was... after I left, everyone showed up. xD

If anyone decides to put all of the Taetrus news information together in order, I'd like to read it. I've only read what was posted here or on Clan V, and I missed most of the stuff at the beginning that probably would have explained why it was happening and how it all started. What I did get to read was very interesting though. Their "brutally efficient" methods remind me of Saren. Now I know where he gets it from. Well, I had thought as much since reading Revelation, but it's nice to see the decisions that other turians make so we can compare them to characters like Garrus and Saren.

I also think trying to avoid civilian casualties is more of a C-Sec thing than a turian thing. Saleon was trying to escape from the Citadel, so if they shot him down, it wouldn't have been just turian casualties. (Now this made me think of an Udina quote. "Do the words 'political sh**storm' mean anything to you?" xD)