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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Mordin handed me my ass on a plate with logical arguments.  He shattered pretty much everything I thought I knew about the genophage.  In short, the guy convinced me.  The prayer touched me as well.  In large part because it was so unexpected.


Hah, I seem to have had the opposite experience. The thing is, you can see Mordin's own logic breaking up, and that was in great part what I found powerful. Here's someone who's been convinced his entire life that what he had done was right. But then, he's faced with the concrete, physical repercussions of his perfectly crafted theories and...a thin ****** starts running along the smoothly painted wall. And his confusion made me confused.

Kasumi's decision was easy for me.  To me keeping the gray box was kinda well...ghoulish.  Not to mention whatever horrible data it contained could "spark interstellar war."  And the fact that Keiji specifically asked Kasumi to destroy it.


I guess I'm too curious for my own good, but when someone tells me there's sensitive information that could be detrimental to the people I'm technically working for (the Alliance), I'd rather see the information and decide for myself whether it's damning enough to do something about it, rather than toss it and pretend it never existed. On the other hand, I knew perfectly well that keeping the box wasn't good for Kasumi's emotional health. That's where the dilemma stemmed from. From a practical standpoint, Shepard would've liked to keep the info. But that came at the price of both Kasumi's safety and her ability to move on. My MainShep kept the box, my MaleShep destroyed it. No clue what my 2 remaining Sheps will do yet.

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'Course that horrible data in Keiji's greybox did contain information on the Reapers. But I've destroyed it and kept it. Same with the Collector Base.

you dirty metagamer! B)

Hey, Shepard was staring at a monitor and could have been seeing the same information as Kasumi. Even a split second glimpse of a Reaper would get my Shepard's attention.

And yes, there is a split second glimpse of a Reaper in the information.

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I kept the box for that reason as well once, but as far as I recall I never got to find out what was in it.  I also didn't like the idea of the Alliance doing something dirty, but as I reasoned digging up this or that with the Alliance wasn't my job then.  I was concerned with A) Kasumi and B) Reapers.  In both cases, a big war probably wouldn't help me much.

For Mordin, I think he believes what he did was right. It's just that what he did was very weighty and the repercussions are hard to deal with. "Not guilty. But responsible," as he puts it. I think he'd do it again if he went back.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
I kept the box for that reason as well once, but as far as I recall I never got to find out what was in it.  I also didn't like the idea of the Alliance doing something dirty, but as I reasoned digging up this or that with the Alliance wasn't my job then.  I was concerned with A) Kasumi and B) Reapers.  In both cases, a big war probably wouldn't help me much.

There's never a discussion on what the data truly is, but you can figure it out if you look closely at the images Keiji brings up. Could be as simple as the Alliance's involvement with Sovereign from the first novel, though.

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I thought keeping the greybox wouldn't be good for Kasumi's mental health. It's like i'm using her to my own agenda.idk, maybe i'm dumb like that, but i destroyed it

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I kept the box for that reason as well once, but as far as I recall I never got to find out what was in it.  I also didn't like the idea of the Alliance doing something dirty, but as I reasoned digging up this or that with the Alliance wasn't my job then.  I was concerned with A) Kasumi and B) Reapers.  In both cases, a big war probably wouldn't help me much.


Well, there's no need to pursue the information right away, because yes, Shep's definitely got bigger fish to fry right then. But maybe sometime in the future, unravelling that particular thread might be a good thing. If I have the sneaking suspicion that the people I'm technically loyal to have some dirty secrets, I'd rather know about them than ignore them. Because if I find out they've been up to no good, why should I continue trusting them?

Ironically enough, it's my MainShep that took the practical route and my MaleShep who got concerned about Kasumi's ability to move on. So much for men being men Posted Image

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Nilfalasiel wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I kept the box for that reason as well once, but as far as I recall I never got to find out what was in it.  I also didn't like the idea of the Alliance doing something dirty, but as I reasoned digging up this or that with the Alliance wasn't my job then.  I was concerned with A) Kasumi and B) Reapers.  In both cases, a big war probably wouldn't help me much.


Well, there's no need to pursue the information right away, because yes, Shep's definitely got bigger fish to fry right then. But maybe sometime in the future, unravelling that particular thread might be a good thing. If I have the sneaking suspicion that the people I'm technically loyal to have some dirty secrets, I'd rather know about them than ignore them. Because if I find out they've been up to no good, why should I continue trusting them?

Ironically enough, it's my MainShep that took the practical route and my MaleShep who got concerned about Kasumi's ability to move on. So much for men being men Posted Image


That I can buy.  I felt dirty destroying it in some ways because if the Alliance did do something nasty I didn't want to cover it up.  My reasons for destroying the box were not because I was covering for the Alliance.  I'll put it that way.

Modifié par Ragabul the Ontarah, 22 juillet 2010 - 04:36 .


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Kotaku posted pics of the next batch of mass effect figures, and garrus was included

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Source: http://kotaku.com/55...wesome/gallery/

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The long-awaited figurine?



Let the Garrus toy puns and innuendos begin!

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Yay for Comic-Con and its inundation of geek information.

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That is going right to the top of my "useless items I cannot live without" list.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

That is going right to the top of my "useless items I cannot live without" list.


ditto

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Vequi wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

That is going right to the top of my "useless items I cannot live without" list.


ditto


double ditto!

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I might have to spring for one of those. I'd put it right next to my femShep action figure...OH WAIT. >:-(

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Yeah, I was gonna say.. awesome, now all I need is a FemShep (and a Kaidan...).

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Any word on price, availability, etc. etc.?

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charles shepherd wrote...

Kotaku posted pics of the next batch of mass effect figures, and garrus was included

Source: http://kotaku.com/55...wesome/gallery/


*looks through gallery*

Who's the weirdo in the N7 Armour? Don't remember seeing him in any playthroughs...

Doesn't look like Conrad either...

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Every other thread is talking about it. Thoughts on the Liara DLC? Thoughts about Garrus versus the Shadow Broker? Had to have come across dealings with the Shadow Broker while in C-Sec.

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I want Liara DLC. I have no idea what it might entail though. Garrus vs Shadow Broker is hard to say given we know almost nothing about the Shadow Broker. Do you mean could Garrus take him/her/them/it in a fight? Or do you mean "what does Garrus think about the Shadow Broker?"

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Pacifien wrote...

Every other thread is talking about it. Thoughts on the Liara DLC? Thoughts about Garrus versus the Shadow Broker? Had to have come across dealings with the Shadow Broker while in C-Sec.

I think that in character, Garrus would have a lot of things to say, stories to tell about Shadow Broker maneuverings on the Citadel.  But I doubt that the squaddies will be voiced in this DLC, much like the last one.  I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.

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Hope there is some squad VA and interaction. It's going to feel really odd if she was an ME1 LI and she's all over you or something with your current LI standing around polishing their weapon.

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Hope there is some squad VA and interaction. It's going to feel really odd if she was an ME1 LI and she's all over you or something with your current LI standing around polishing their weapon.



This.  Especially if it takes place after the O4.

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Hope there is some squad VA and interaction. It's going to feel really odd if she was an ME1 LI and she's all over you or something with your current LI standing around polishing their weapon.



This.  Especially if it takes place after the O4.


Dittoed.  

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Do you figure we might get to actually control Liara ala Leliana's Song?

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Steel Dancer wrote...

Hope there is some squad VA and interaction. It's going to feel really odd if she was an ME1 LI and she's all over you or something with your current LI standing around polishing their weapon.



This.  Especially if it takes place after the O4.


Dittoed.  


Not that I have anything to worry about... my only other LI is Kaidan.  :crying: