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[Collider]

It is a little strange how some squad mates advocate keeping the base yet later on the Normandy disapprove or are wary if you really do keep the base. I can understand why they did it though. Foreshadowing.

[Kim Shepard]

I have Renegades planned out for both - philosophical reasons, crazy, or philosophical and crazy. My next Shepard after the MaleShep I've been playing (Neutral and crazy... Chaotic Neutral?) will be the philosophical reasons type of Renegade. I think all of them must have a little bit of crazy mixed in. Shepard's #1, 4, and 8 might be tied for most. Unless you count EvilShep. In that case, he wins for recruiting Morinth.

Yeah, I know the squadmates' change of opinion probably the game's way of saying "this decision will come back to haunt you in ME3." I really hope not though. It should be like the end choice in ME1 - neither is wrong, it's just a different way to win.

[Collider]

It's not shepherding exactly because all of the squad mates are skeptical of keeping the base after you do so, some of them were in favor of keeping it when the choice actually came up.

I'm not really sure about unfairly punishing players. You are giving the base to the lIlusive Man, head of an organization that has done questionable experiments. He's a shifty guy by all accounts. I have little doubt though, that keeping and saving the base will both have it's pros and cons. For example - the comments made by squad mates if you destroy the base also foreshadow. They basically point to Shepard/Normandy going solo (at least for a while) and Cerberus not being happy.

Modifié par Collider, 24 juillet 2010 - 07:39 .

[kglaser]

Kim Shepard wrote...

So none of them realized or thought about the fact that Shepard would be giving the base to TIM? Wow... this is why Shepard's in charge. Shepard thinks things through.

I just automatically ordered to destroy the base.  I wasn't thinking as Shepard, or role-playing, or anything else.  It was a revolted, knee-jerk reaction of what I personally would have done.

[Kim Shepard]

I don't have doubts that ME3's story will be great, even if Shepard gets forced into certain decisions like working with the Alliance/Council or alone because Cerberus betrays Shepard no matter what. I would like it better though if Shepard could choose to stay with Cerberus. MainShep is loyal to TIM until he betrays her or comes up with a plan to kill a lot of turians. But if TIM chose to destroy all of the batarians... well, you wouldn't hear her complaining.

I just think it wouldn't be very fair to have a game based on choices and then say that possible the most important choice in both games has an answer that's clearly "wrong." And not morally wrong, I mean if no benefit comes from it for Shepard. Then any replays after that would be like, "I know I'm going to mess things up on purpose if I choose this option, but there's no way my Renegade Cerberus supporter would destroy the base."

@kglaser: Yeah, I always roleplay my Shepards. xD MaleShep will destroy it and then realize that he basically left himself with no allies, no crew and just nine squadmates to save the galaxy. MainShep did the opposite, actually.

Modifié par Kim Shepard, 24 juillet 2010 - 07:52 .

[kglaser]

No matter how much RPing I do (and I do), there are some things I will never be able to do (yes, I realize they are games). Not recruiting Garrus in the first place is one of them. However, I would consider keeping the base next time. I want a save where that happens.

[KendallX23]

well i am not a big Garrus fan like u...but i gotta say...i am pretty sure that he will be in ME3 with Shepard....he and Tali will be the only squadmates to stay with Shepard.Though i personally would like to see Garrus in a leading position for a part of the game...like leading a turian force against a reaper or something like that

[kglaser]

I agree that he would definitely be qualified to do something like that.

[kglaser]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

kglaser wrote...

I agree that he would definitely be qualified to do something like that.

I still wouldn't mind seeing Spectre Garrus.  I was actually a little disappointed he quit Spectre training.  Granted Archangel is awesome but going on a joint Spectre mission with Spectre Garrus sounds just as if not even more awesome to me.

Now THAT possibility is worth discussing further!

[Collider]

I agree with Kim that most/none of the choices should be as simple as "right" or "wrong" choice. They should all have pros and cons, though not necessarily being equal (although that is probably the best).



I only have two Shepards right now. The first one is basically me, a Paragade. The other one is Spacer Ruthless. She's a hardline Alliance proponent and ended up with neutral alignment. Romanced Garrus.



It's easier for me to roleplay in Dragon Age since I do not feel as invested in the characters.

[Collider]

Trouble is with making Garrus a Spectre in ME2 is that that's quite a bit of variability for the second game. It's easier for them to leave all of the branching paths for the last game, where they don't need to worry about importing anymore (as there is no ME4). It's possible that if you renegaded Garrus, he may reapply for Spectre training. Maybe if you paragoned Garrus, he becomes head of C-Sec. Who knows.

[Kim Shepard]

Same for me. I create a lot of different Shepards for fun, and if some of those choices make the game less fun (like not recruiting Garrus, or killing off one of my favorites), then it defeats the purpose of the game in my opinion. There are just some choices that will always be the same. Garrus will always be recruited/alive, Saren will always be Paragoned/Renegaded (if I choose all of the conversation options right, it's possible to make it sound in-game like MainShep liked Saren all along), Jacob's father will always die (even EvilShep is disgusted by him)... things like that.

...I'm going back a few hours of playtime in DAO because I didn't like the way my Warden killed an NPC.

@Ragabul: Yeah, my MaleShep's not technically "neutral" in opinions, but I think his Paragon/Renegade score will end up being 50-50. He has some very strong opinions, and some of them conflict with each other. It'll be fun to play out in ME2.

[Kim Shepard]

I would guess that it was just another thing in a long list. Garrus doesn't seem to be bitter about not becoming a Spectre, so I think he must have respected his father's decision even if he didn't understand it.

[Andaius20]

Hey folks, checking in. How's it going? almost a 200 I see.

[KendallX23]

dunno....don't kill me please...but Garrus is too much like SHepard...or trying to be....his future is pretty much determined by Shepard...more so then the other squadmates....i want him in ME3 to do more...be more independent...more badass so to speak...

[KendallX23]

well this waiting for ME3 is killing me...i want to know what happenes to all my squadmates...at least we are sure of tali and garrus beeing there