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Calibrations: Garrus Love and Turian Discussion

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 05:00

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janeym27 wrote...

Collider wrote...

Garrus: Badass in public, wonderfully awkward in private.


D'aww. It's why we love him. ^_^

(although the badass in public/awkward in private thing could very well be read as a symptom of his inability to deal with real emotions and his own feelings about stuff, so he covers it with bruvada and confidence and gets down to killing as a way of refusing to deal with stuff.... but I'm going to stick with my "D'awwwww." :P)


If you don't ever romance the man, Garrus comes across as very confident with the ladies. He brags about being hit on more than shepard, how some women find scars attractive, the reach and flexibility conversation, his somewhat sexy tone when he talks to tali and even when he banters with femshep (it can be interpreted as flirting). But if you tell the guy you like him suddenly he's not so cocky anymore and I love that Posted Image 

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 05:19

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@Hyrule_Gal,

That is the perfect combination.

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 07:36

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Is it me or did I spot some tumbleweed go by...
 
^_^ I'll think of a new topic anyway, hmmmmm....garrus, garrus, garrus....ah! Who do you want to acknowledge your relationship besides the person you romanced in ME1? For example, close squaddies , Joker, that reporter Al-Jilani to name a few. Joker seems to be perfect as he has something to say about everything.

 
Joker: So you and Garrus huh? Shouldn't be surprised, women tend to go for the revenge driven, vigilante types.... bonus points if they got facial scars mandibles.

Shepard: (sternly)Joker

Joker: I'm just kidding commander. I know Garrus is a good guy even if a little...uh, I have mentioned the pole right? But I wouldn’t question your judgement as a commander so I shouldn’t question your judgment about Garrus, even if I don’t get it myself.

(dialogue wheel) 

"Thanks"


Shepard: I appreciate that Joker, I know there’s going to be a lot of people that don’t get it but that doesn’t matter to me. If I only based my decisions on what other people thought I wouldn’t be a good commander, being in command means you have to trust yourself.

Joker: Like I said, I trust your judgment Commander , sure I’ll poke fun but that’s just me being me. Think of it like a brother looking out for his sister...well, a pilot looking out for his commanding officer...you know what I mean.



"Speaking of which..."

Shepard: Yeah, this must be very strange for a guy romancing an A.I

Joker: Hey! I was just trying to have a moment here but if you’re going to pull that card...besides it’s a completely professional relationship.



"That's enough"
 
Shepard: No you shouldn’t, I’m your commanding officer joker , what I do in my personal life is none of your business,  is that understood or have you forgotten who your superiors are?


Joker: I’m sorry commander it won’t happen again

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 07:42

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Neria Rose wrote...

Has everyone seen the results of the latest poll? Garrus is the most loved squad mate (naturally)!

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/128/index/3233386/1#3236593


Most "meh" squadmate Kaidan Alenko.  That makes me laugh.

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 07:43

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I've gone from a day or two, being extremely tired from volunteering (and studying) Been catching up on reading yesterday, and I don't think I would catch up on the 20 pages+. So can anyone give a light summary to anything exciting (such as Garrus going around screaming and waving pom poms around)?

(congrats on hitting 200 pages!)

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 07:49

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Um, I don't think much happened. A few new people. I think we had another Papa V discussion without much new data coming up. We also discussed Garrus' leadership skills and what we thought might happen with how Bioware will treat LIs in DLC and in ME3. We didn't really reach a consensus on anything though.

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 07:56

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Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Is it me or did I spot some tumbleweed go by...
 
^_^ I'll think of a new topic anyway, hmmmmm....garrus, garrus, garrus....ah! Who do you want to acknowledge your relationship besides the person you romanced in ME1? For example, close squaddies , Joker, that reporter Al-Jilani to name a few. Joker seems to be perfect as he has something to say about everything.



Joker is a good candidate to mention things.  Annoying reporter is another one.  She'd probably have something to say to anybody with an alien LI.  I don't really see most of the other squaddies having much to say.  Mordin's already said his piece though I could see him continuing to mess with you.  If the Cerberus people didn't have a problem in ME2 or didn't speak up about it I don't see why they randomly would in ME3.  Former LIs would obviously comment on it.  Terra Firma party guy (if he showed up again) might have something to say.  I could sorta even see the council picking on it as a sign of Shepard's "deviancy" if they are still trying to make her look unstable.  This would especially be the case if she was with Garrus or Tali as quarians aren't well liked and the turian counciler has a stick up his butt anyway.  I don't think the other councilers would make a deal of it though.  Udina might.

Man, the thread is slow.  What's up guys?  Seems like I remember two or three people saying they were gonna be gone for a while.  Too bad it happened all at once.

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 08:01

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I think that TIM might have a comment or two as well (assuming that BW wants us to affiliate with Cerberus), but I don't know. I think they'll only do one or two references, but that's it. ME is rather crummy in making consequences happen. I mean, I expected Garrus/Tali/(maybe) Miranda to make some comment on your previous relationship with Ashley/Kaidan/Liara, but they remained mute. I mean, Garrus does make a comment if you are already locked into a romance with Thane/Jacob, but Garrus doesn't mention it if you had romanced Liara/Kaidan. I suppose it's much simpler for BW's part, but still...

I'll probably be here for a little while Raga. Waiting for a stupid tripod to be returned to the university resource centre so I can borrow it overnight D:

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 08:07

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First time I check the thread, the last post was two hours ago. Now everyone shows up at once. xD Nice surprise.

I like the idea of other characters commenting on the romance. I've always thought it would be funny if the reporter brought it up... MainShep would punch her for the first time if she insulted turians. Political correctness does not apply when someone insults turians. (Good thing she didn't insult Saren. MainShep would have punched her, and she wouldn't even know why.)

Joker could have some great comments for this. It would be awesome to see the look on the turian councillor's face too.

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 08:09

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I think part of the deal with this thread is that is seems like the members are divided up between Americans, Aussies, and Europeans. That makes for random spurts of activity in the wee hours for lots of us.

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 08:14

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Kim Shepard wrote...

First time I check the thread, the last post was two hours ago. Now everyone shows up at once. xD Nice surprise.

I like the idea of other characters commenting on the romance. I've always thought it would be funny if the reporter brought it up... MainShep would punch her for the first time if she insulted turians. Political correctness does not apply when someone insults turians. (Good thing she didn't insult Saren. MainShep would have punched her, and she wouldn't even know why.)

Joker could have some great comments for this. It would be awesome to see the look on the turian councillor's face too.


Haha, I agree. I would totally punch the reporter for the first time if she insulted Garrus or Tali.  I also thought it was weird Garrus had NOTHING to say about Kaidan.   I mean he knows I was with Kaidan, then I get into a fight with Kaidan in front of him, and then I start hitting on him, and he has nothing to say?  Given how casual femshep is I can't help but think he might be wandering "is she just doing this to get back at Kaidan?"  That would be an interesting thing to come up in ME3 though.

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 08:21

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I am currently poking through other character threads to see what there reaction to that poll was. It's kinda interesting. Someone said Xette solicited other forums for votes. I wonder which those were.

And that's it.  Three posts in a row is my obsessive limit.

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 08:22

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Mayhaps BW "assumed direct control" so that Garrus and Tali were forgetful that we romanced someone in ME1. I wonder how they are going to approach it in ME3? I don't want BW to make ME1 LIs spurn us by default. I wouldn't mind if Shep had that choice but the one who Shep doesn't choose becomes the ice glacier about to crash on one's head without turning back, because it would be realistic.

Thinking about it, I wonder how Garrus would treat FemShep if she decided to go back to Liara/Kaidan...

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 08:24

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For Saren, it'd be a biotic punch. xD Then it would be very hard for MainShep to pretend that she's upset about all the Alliance soldiers who lost their lives, and not just upset about Saren (which would be the truth).

Yeah, that is strange the way he doesn't mention it. MainShep doesn't have to worry about that though. Garrus' thoughts when she flirted with him were probably more like, "She turned Kaidan down. She totally avoided Liara. And now this "sparring" comment... I've got it! She just likes turians."

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 08:32

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I just saw this posted in another thread - what do you guys think?

Its Monsoontides interpretation.  I'm still contemplating.

http://www.foundatio...28&d=1280130373

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Alexine wrote...

Mayhaps BW "assumed direct control" so that Garrus and Tali were forgetful that we romanced someone in ME1. I wonder how they are going to approach it in ME3? I don't want BW to make ME1 LIs spurn us by default. I wouldn't mind if Shep had that choice but the one who Shep doesn't choose becomes the ice glacier about to crash on one's head without turning back, because it would be realistic.
Thinking about it, I wonder how Garrus would treat FemShep if she decided to go back to Liara/Kaidan...


I think he would be crushed but quiet about it.  Just like when you reject him in the romance scene.  He wouldn't be confrontational but it would NOT be good for his mental health or his confidence.  That got shaken up a bit in ME2 I think.  I'm one of the one's who thinks a lot of his confidence is bravado.  Hmm, well not all of it.  How do I explain?  I think Shep's death hit him hard and he coped with it by forming his team on Omega and sorta carrying on as she did.  I think he really was dealing with it and he did genuinely mature and develop leadership skills.  But I think the loss of his team, coupled with Shepard's reappearance at the moment of his biggest failure didn't help him.  I think he really starts to doubt himself.  At that moment, his newly acquired boldness actually becomes something of a defensive screen.  It's not that it wasn't real before.  It's that now it's not just simple boldness anymore.  It's become more complex.  Does that make sense?  For a Garrus in a romance with femshep, I think that relationship is one of the things that really helps him recover.  It's possible for Garrus to recover without it as dudeshep and friend femshep can help him too, but for romanced Garrus, the relationship is a big part of his comeback.  Losing it would not be good for him.

As for Bioware forcing decisions on us, they did warn us that cheating would have "consequences."  Whether that is that one LI no longer has an interest in us, or that choosing one over another hurts the relationship I have no idea.  However, I don't expect it to be "choose one of us please and then there will be sunshine and puppies."  If you cheated, there will be negative repercussions.  I think it is only fair and realistic to assume that.

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 08:33

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Buggirl70 wrote...

I just saw this posted in another thread - what do you guys think?

Its Monsoontides interpretation.  I'm still contemplating.

http://www.foundatio...28&d=1280130373


Hips are too wide.  Neck is too long.  And feathers?  Naw, I still like the female turian in the NSFW thread best.

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 08:34

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Kim Shepard wrote...

Yeah, that is strange the way he doesn't mention it. MainShep doesn't have to worry about that though. Garrus' thoughts when she flirted with him were probably more like, "She turned Kaidan down. She totally avoided Liara. And now this "sparring" comment... I've got it! She just likes turians."


It would be interesting if BW decided to make Garrus assume that FemShep had a secret crush on him, therefore not mentioning Kaidan/Liara. Thinking about it, Tali probably didn't mention your LIs in ME1 because she had that huge crush on Shepard that she didn't care about that relationship and decided to take the jump when Shepard showed his interest. Maybe it could apply to Garrus as well?

Well, I better get home. It's kind of dark outside, and I'll probably be back in a few hours (provided that there's a few people still around :D)

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 08:48

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Alexine wrote...

Kim Shepard wrote...

Yeah, that is strange the way he doesn't mention it. MainShep doesn't have to worry about that though. Garrus' thoughts when she flirted with him were probably more like, "She turned Kaidan down. She totally avoided Liara. And now this "sparring" comment... I've got it! She just likes turians."


It would be interesting if BW decided to make Garrus assume that FemShep had a secret crush on him, therefore not mentioning Kaidan/Liara. Thinking about it, Tali probably didn't mention your LIs in ME1 because she had that huge crush on Shepard that she didn't care about that relationship and decided to take the jump when Shepard showed his interest. Maybe it could apply to Garrus as well?

Well, I better get home. It's kind of dark outside, and I'll probably be back in a few hours (provided that there's a few people still around :D)


My mainshep totally never thought about it.  In fact, that moment when Kelly goes "you two would make such a cute couple" she kinda does a double take.  She's like "what?  Garrus?!" and then she kinda starts thinking about it and she's like "huh, so we would."  It's not that he's a turian.  She always liked turians in an idle kind of way.  It's that it's Garrus who had been before that a mix of pupil, little brother, and fellow soldier.  She hates Cerberus and was never really fond of Joker so Garrus is the first familiar face she sees.  Kaidan treats her like crap, Garrus no longer treats her like a teacher, and the rest is history.

I don't think Garrus ever had a crush on femshep.  I think he is genuinely floored when she comes on to him.  I think his reaction was pretty much like my femshep's above.  "What?  With Shepard?!"  followed by a "hmmm, actually that kinda makes sense..."

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 08:48

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I think the option to choose between both is most likely. It would be nice if Shepard could also break up with his/her ME1 romance without cheating. (And I still think it only feels like "cheating" in Liara's case. Depending on how Shepard leaves things with Kaidan/Ashley, it can sound like the relationship is over.) I agree that Garrus would probably act just like he did if he's rejected in the final romance scene - heartbroken, but still friends with Shepard. I can't imagine all of the romance interests being the same way, unless the game decides to use similar reactions for all of them.

I don't care for that female turian image. I saw a female krogan that was probably done by the same artist though, and I liked that one. I don't have the picture of my favorite female turian concept saved... but it's been posted on this thread a few times.

@Alexine: The secret crush thing was definitely true of MainShep in ME1, and I'm sure a lot of other Shepards felt the same way. :)

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 08:59

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There are some elements that I find ok, the face is fine and even the head "feathers" I could get used to - but as Raga said - the hips are too wide, the feathers on the arms are over the top, and there's something way too vicious about her feet and lower legs, I know turians are dangerous looking but thats too Jurassic Park for my liking.

I prefer the turian female that I posted a while back.

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Kim Shepard wrote...

I think the option to choose between both is most likely. It would be nice if Shepard could also break up with his/her ME1 romance without cheating. (And I still think it only feels like "cheating" in Liara's case. Depending on how Shepard leaves things with Kaidan/Ashley, it can sound like the relationship is over.) I agree that Garrus would probably act just like he did if he's rejected in the final romance scene - heartbroken, but still friends with Shepard. I can't imagine all of the romance interests being the same way, unless the game decides to use similar reactions for all of them.


I think Bioware might do that for ease's sake, but it would not be in character for everybody.  Can you really see Jack saying "Oh so you're dumping me?  No biggie.  Mission comes first anyway."  And I would NOT want to see a rejected Tali.  To me that would be pretty much the saddest thing in the history of sad.  :crying:

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 09:00

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Buggirl70 wrote...

There are some elements that I find ok, the face is fine and even the head "feathers" I could get used to - but as Raga said - the hips are too wide, the feathers on the arms are over the top, and there's something way too vicious about her feet and lower legs, I know turians are dangerous looking but thats too Jurassic Park for my liking.

I prefer the turian female that I posted a while back.


I'm in the "female turians don't have leg spurs at all" camp.

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Posté 26 juillet 2010 - 09:02

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I'm in the "female turians don't have leg spurs at all" camp.


I like that idea Raga.  Does that make the spurs an erogenous zone for male turians?Posted Image

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Buggirl70 wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I'm in the "female turians don't have leg spurs at all" camp.


I like that idea Raga.  Does that make the spurs an erogenous zone for male turians?Posted Image


Huh, you do NOT want to know what some...eh "imaginative" people have suggested about those.  *shudder*

I agree that she has Jurassic Park feet, but on second thought I kinda like her dewclaws.  I don't think turians have them however because I've never heard of anything that has more toes on its back legs than front.  Actually, they don't have a hind facing claw on their feet do they?  So they could have a dewclaw.  I kinda like that idea.
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