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[Nilfalasiel]

J4N3_M3 wrote...

that's a double-no from my side. tom cruise and Lestat was so much hotter in the books, like SERIOUSLY

Lol. I don't usually like Tom Cruise at all, but I did find his Lestat sexy (a lot more than Louis! Brad Pitt + vampire = cannot compute). It's his best role (that I've seen).

Well, apart from his hilarious performance in Tropic Thunder, but that's just for teh lulz.

But I must admit I haven't read any of the books, so Lestat might be better in the books.

Still, if we're talking sexy vampires, Gary Oldman as Dracula was all kinds of yummy (his young version, anyway).

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 27 juillet 2010 - 01:02 .

[Bugsie]

Night Garrus thread!

[J4N3_M3]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

J4N3_M3 wrote...

that's a double-no from my side. tom cruise and Lestat was so much hotter in the books, like SERIOUSLY

Lol. I don't usually like Tom Cruise at all, but I did find his Lestat sexy (a lot more than Louis! Brad Pitt + vampire = cannot compute). It's his best role (that I've seen).

Well, apart from his hilarious performance in Tropic Thunder, but that's just for teh lulz.

But I must admit I haven't read any of the books, so Lestat might be better in the books.

Still, if we're talking sexy vampires, Gary Oldman as Dracula was all kinds of yummy (his young version, anyway).

that's because I find Gary Oldman yummy in General. RAWRZ!!!!

@Buggirl: good night  

[Collider]

From the poll result thread:

I've come across quite a few Garrus haters on devart, so I know they're around.

Is this actually true? I've never noticed anything like that on deviantart.

[Alexine]

Well, I need to get some zzz as well (got class tomorrow...)

Nite everyone! Don't have Garrus come in and sucking all your blood.

[lovgreno]

Buggirl70 wrote...

Mentatzoee wrote...

Hell, what about turians? Would you do a turian if they were real?

I've actually thought about that, mmmm alot  , but I think the sad reality is - I'd probably be scared ****less of them, I mean they are so dangerous looking If I saw one in real life I'd probably faint.

Sadly I must agree to this. If I was Shepard however it would be a different thing of course. Considering what Shep has done in his/her life dating a handsome/pretty turian isn't very extreme or dangerous in comparasion.

[lovgreno]

Alexine wrote...

Well, I need to get some zzz as well (got class tomorrow...)
Nite everyone! Don't have Garrus come in and sucking all your blood.

Well at least not my blood...

[J4N3_M3]

lovgreno wrote...

Alexine wrote...

Well, I need to get some zzz as well (got class tomorrow...)
Nite everyone! Don't have Garrus come in and sucking all your blood.

Well at least not my blood...

interesting!

[Sialater]

Collider wrote...

Of course, the one big counterargument is how awkwardly he reacts to the possibility of FemShep being a lesbian, if she romances Liara.

I've seen this being perceived in many different ways by people.

Some see it as just being embarrassed. Others saw it as him not really knowing the most optimal way of phrasing it without causing offense.

Others were offended by his (I'm probably paraphrasing here) "I didn't know you were one of them" line, because they thought it implied that Kaidan thought gay/bisexual women/people were "different."

I take it as him just not sharing well.  Not being intolerant, but just wanting the girl for himself.

And to alleviate the OT-ness:

Modifié par Sialater, 27 juillet 2010 - 02:21 .

[Collider]

I'd personally "choose" Garrus for my Female PC, but I also liked Alistair.



I noticed though, that his romance was rather sensitive - that is, I got into Alistair's romance accidentally. I had my Female Warden tell him that it was sweet of him to say that she was the only bright spot in all that's happened - and then afterwards he thinks they're in a relationship. I was actually meaning to romance Alistair in that playthrough anyway, but I had wanted to choose when specifically.



I like that in the Garrus, Tali, and Thane romances in ME2, the romance & flirting triggers are very obvious. It's an improvement over ME1 where I've heard of (and personally experienced) "ninja romances."

[Sialater]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Mentatzoee wrote...

I somehow wanted the culture thing to excuse my opposed opinion to what it seems to be the trend, since I felt it was necessary to point out the difference that actually exists between accepting female and male homosexuality.
It's something I often see, and something I deeply despise, especially from that kind of women who call themselves to be the living model of tolerance but can't understand that the a gay/bi woman can look at/talk to them without it meaning they want something.
So, well, reading that women are more tolerant of ******/bisexuality made me put the sarcastic glasses on.
I don't like being inflexible and intransigent, so I wanted to state that might be my opinion because it's what I've seen around me a lot of times, and might be a cultural thing.

And yeah, half of the world is crazy. Going to jail because any kind of "allowed" sex between two self-aware individuals? Scares the sh!t out of me. Well, the fact that jails exist and are considered as an actual useful way to"deal with people" does.

(and more dispersion!)

Well, for me it's not that I think every bi woman in a game is coming onto me.  Leliana for instance never gave me the jeeblies.  But the reason that was the case is that I was able to say "I'm sorry, Leliana, but I am not interested.," and then she left it alone.  We could just be friends after that and it wasn't a problem.  With NPCs like Shiala or the Consort, the come up and rub on my femshep and she just stands there.  If a guy did that to her she would slap him, so why does she just stand there and do nothing when a woman does it?  It's not that I find bisexuals creepy or bad.  It's that I want my femshep to be able to say "please, don't do that to me."

I renegaded that convo with Sha'ira and got Meg a freebie.  She was actually looking for more money.  I'm really trying to figure out a way for Garrus to give her a hard time about it when Shiala comes on to her on Illium.

[Collider]

I also disliked Shiala and the Consort rubbing up against Shepard or whatever and Shepard just stands there.

[Nilfalasiel]

Collider wrote...

I noticed though, that his romance was rather sensitive - that is, I got into Alistair's romance accidentally. I had my Female Warden tell him that it was sweet of him to say that she was the only bright spot in all that's happened - and then afterwards he thinks they're in a relationship. I was actually meaning to romance Alistair in that playthrough anyway, but I had wanted to choose when specifically.

 
This happened to me on my first time through DA:O. I got ninjamanced by both Alistair and Leliana...when I was actually intending to romance Zev. With Alistair, some of the early romance starters aren't exactly obvious, and you have to be careful, because he does take some of what the Warden says and run away with it without notifying you. Next thing I knew, I accidentally clicked on him while traipsing through the Circle Tower, and he was offering me his rose. I was like "wait, wut? when did this happen?"

With Leliana, the problem is similar to the ME1 romance traps: you say something that sounds rather anodyne, and the next thing you know, you have a set of responses that all look identical. This is for her second romance trigger: you can ask her if she's feeling better about what happened with Marjolaine, but god forbid you go so far as to ask her whether Marjolaine was special to her. Because the next set of responses is basically all telling her either "don't worry, I'm not like Marjolaine" or  "I'll never change, I hope you know that", or "I only wish I were as special to you as she was". And all I wanted to do was show friendly concern over something that quite obviously hurt her. But noooo...On she goes about how she loves me.

The gift system also makes it really easy to inadvertently step into a romance. I think that might actually have been my problem with Alistair the first time around: I spammed him with gifts to free up some inventory space, and it may have bypassed one of the more obvious romance-starter convos or something. I should really download the toolset and take a peek at what triggers what.

I like that in the Garrus, Tali, and Thane romances in ME2, the romance & flirting triggers are very obvious. It's an improvement over ME1 where I've heard of (and personally experienced) "ninja romances."

Yeah, that's true, those three were really obvious. I thought Miranda's one was pretty clear as well. By contrast, Jack's one is extremely deceptive. You can outright tell her that you're not interested in a romance OR casual sex, and yet she'll STILL behave as if you're trying to romance her. MaleShep literally has no way out except to not talk to her at all. At least with Liara, you can turn her down and not have to stop talking to her (even though it seems like it glitches out every once in a while). With Jack...it seems like you simply can't.

And with Jacob, every damn line that comes out of Shep's mouth sounds like a romance starter

[Mentatzoee]

I'd say that whatever happens with Shiala and Sha'ira it's more because of them being asari than because they're bisexual (well... I'm not sure if the asari would count as bisexual, the way we see it)

[Sialater]

Omni-sexual?

[Collider]

Here's a quick miniguide on how to avoid flirting with Jacob:



(I believe this is the second or third conversation with Jacob)



1. Say the word, I back off. (bottom)



1a. Any family? <-- Optional. May be interpreted as flirty. Does not start the romance though.



2. You seem quick to trust me. (middle)



3. The job isn't everything. OR They need discipline.



4. We have nothing to hide. OR We'll give them a show.



After this conversation, provided that you did not enter the romance, F!Shepard gets the same conversations as M!Shepard - meaning it becomes impossible to flirt with Jacob.

[Nilfalasiel]

Ooo, nice, thanks!

Just one thing though:

Collider wrote...

Here's a quick miniguide on how to avoid flirting with Jacob:

(I believe this is the second or third conversation with Jacob)

1. Say the word, I back off. (bottom)

Does this mean that you can flirt with him/start the romance in the convos before that?

[Mentatzoee]

Sialater wrote...

Omni-sexual?

Maybe! Something tells me they would even pair with a Hanar, an Elcor... You know.

@Collider: What about telling him you don't want to mess with personal stuff having the obligations you have and so? I remember that from my first PT, I somewhat started testing him (I was innocent and curious!!) but there was something that made me back up, and I saw the "Yeah, you're right, nevermind, we shouldn't disrupt the crew" option. (I'm sorry, my memory stinks)


Edit: I know this has been said everywhere, but wasn't the approval system of DA:O WAY better than just turning on and off people?

Modifié par Mentatzoee, 27 juillet 2010 - 03:36 .

[Collider]

I've also heard about people accidentally romancing Leliana. I actually raised concerns about sensitive romance triggers in the DA2 forums, and I got a response from a writer who said that they have attempted to make the triggers far more obvious. Since dialog options apparently come with icons, I imagine that just putting a "heart" icon next to the romance triggering lines would alleviate the problem.

The gift system also makes it really easy to inadvertently step into a romance. I think that might actually have been my problem with Alistair the first time around: I spammed him with gifts to free up some inventory space, and it may have bypassed one of the more obvious romance-starter convos or something. I should really download the toolset and take a peek at what triggers what.

It's almost as if the game assumes you are romancing Alistair if you have high approval with him.

In my opinion, in DA2, they should get rid of non-plot gifts altogether.

Yeah, that's true, those three were really obvious. I thought Miranda's one was pretty clear as well. By contrast, Jack's one is extremely deceptive. You can outright tell her that you're not interested in a romance OR casual sex, and yet she'll STILL behave as if you're trying to romance her. MaleShep literally has no way out except to not talk to her at all. At least with Liara, you can turn her down and not have to stop talking to her (even though it seems like it glitches out every once in a while). With Jack...it seems like you simply can't.

I also got caught in the Jack romance. After I tried to get out of it, she told me to **** off

With Miranda there's a "You're hard to compliment" line. It seemed innocuous, but instead Shepard tells Miranda that she has a hot body. Though, it's not as bad as Jack's faulty romance triggers were.

In ME1 I accidentally romanced Ashley. I thought I was just being nice, and then suddenly she tells me how great in bed she is. There was also an instance where she asked if Shepard "was still interested." All of the responses Shepard could make to that was "yes" in different ways. There was no "What? I was never interested," or "No, I'm not interested."

Modifié par Collider, 27 juillet 2010 - 03:37 .