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#5601
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I looked it up on the Wiki, and it's just some extra dialogue. I think it was Bane's body the team found when they went missing? ME2 said nothing about it, but it'll be just my luck that ME3 will... and MaleShep's a Sole Survivor, so the Cerberus stuff is important to him.

But still, replaying all those missions. o_o; I think I'll just restart from the save where I completed Feros and several side quests. The save before that does have its advantages (it's right before the Saren growling scene), but it's too far to go back. I think I'll just watch the Saren growling scene, then reload and go to Noveria.

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Wow, this thread grows fast.  How do you all keep up?

@Nilfalasiel:

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The problem here is that you either have obvious triggers, or people get ninjamanced. [...]

But
yeah, implementing "I want out" or "that's not what I meant" options at
every stage of the romance is probably a good compromise. That way, if
you make a mistake, you can back out at any time.


QTF.  So "ninjamanced" is the term?[smilie]../../../../images/forum/emoticons/happy.png[/smilie]  Kaidan totally did that to me.  Very awkward.

@Ragabul:
Well, about the wine, there is hope! 
Only the wrong way amino acids (and other types of biologically active
compounds, I imagine) are the problem, and even then, a lot of times the
wrong way molecule just doesn't really do anything.  (Sort of like
Celexa or Ibuprofen).  Also, I'm no chemist or biologist, but AFAIK ethanol is just
ethanol and doesn't come in D or L flavors does it?  If turians actually
drink wine that is more or less the same sort of thing human wine is
and use it for the same occasions we would,  that would probably mean
they have evolved a lot of homologous biochemical pathways and enzymes
and that ethanol works on their receptors too?  In which case it would
more likely be the "other" stuff in wine that would be more of a problem
in terms of adverse effects? Hmmm...  OK, maybe I'm just spouting
pseudoscience now.  But Garrus is a sweet guy and so in Mirlam's wonderful picture, he brought two glasses of wine, one of which has be optimized for human consumption ...  I wonder where the Nice ERCS Guard on Noveria gets his donuts and whether they're human ones or not.  It sure makes things a lot easier to imagine if one pretends that most of the time, the wrong-way proteins aren't a problem!

There's a really funny post somewhere you may have seen in which it is opined that "Garrus will taste like liquid sugar." [smilie]../../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]
based on info culled from Wikipedia's "Chirality" and "Homochirality" articles.

ETA: some of the speculation about bodily fluids on that thread is just immature, but there is also some fun sciencey speculation on there too.

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Buggirl70 wrote...

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just imagine the CPR Garrus could give you :D:D:D:D


Ah the gentle caress of talons moving slowly down my torso, his mouth moves to mine to ......

mmm where was I?


You have definitely been honing your smut-writing abilities, and it shows favorably Buggirl :P

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To be fair to the Revelation view of Texas, as a Pacific Northwester from a city of ~300,000 who spent a year in the DFW, that is kind of how it looked at the time to my unprepared eyes. Flat, hot, and brown, concrete and spraypaint as far as the eye can see.

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Christmas Ape wrote...

To be fair to the Revelation view of Texas, as a Pacific Northwester from a city of ~300,000 who spent a year in the DFW, that is kind of how it looked at the time to my unprepared eyes. Flat, hot, and brown, concrete and spraypaint as far as the eye can see.


Depends on where you were.  Parts of Houston definitely looked like you described.  Dallas is really compact and urban feeling, clubby in some ways.  San Antonio is gorgeous.   Brazoria looks like Louisiana-Spanish moss, cypress trees.  Big Bend area is mountainous.  The Hill Country, well no place looks like the Hill Country but the Hill Country, awesome wildflowers there.  Lots of deer, really pretty.  Where I grew up is rolling hills and pine forests.  I've been to Oregon and the Piney Woods are as green as Oregon in their own way.  Than there's prairie in the Panhandle.  You even got a few white sand beaches like at Corpus or Padre.  El Paso is flat and desert.  It's really diverse.  Anyway, sorry for the long rant.  I guess you were just in a nasty part of Texas, but it isn't all like that by any means.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Christmas Ape wrote...
To be fair to the Revelation view of Texas, as a Pacific Northwester from a city of ~300,000 who spent a year in the DFW, that is kind of how it looked at the time to my unprepared eyes. Flat, hot, and brown, concrete and spraypaint as far as the eye can see.

Depends on where you were.  Parts of Houston definitely looked like you described.  Dallas is really compact and urban feeling, clubby in some ways.  San Antonio is gorgeous.   Brazoria looks like Louisiana-Spanish moss, cypress trees.  Big Bend area is mountainous.  The Hill Country, well no place looks like the Hill Country but the Hill Country, awesome wildflowers there.  Lots of deer, really pretty.  Where I grew up is rolling hills and pine forests.  I've been to Oregon and the Piney Woods are as green as Oregon in their own way.  Than there's prairie in the Panhandle.  You even got a few white sand beaches like at Corpus or Padre.  El Paso is flat and desert.  It's really diverse.  Anyway, sorry for the long rant.  I guess you were just in a nasty part of Texas, but it isn't all like that by any means.

Primarily Irving, IIRC. I know the terrain of Texas in general is quite varied, but the 'plex itself is kind of a nightmare of urban sprawl for those of us who live in a city with trees planted along the sidewalks of the downtown core.

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Dallas/Ft. Worth, Houston, and Austin all get -1,000 disapproval for toll roads.

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Ah, you were in "Post Oak Belt meets prairie" part of Texas. I can safely say that is the nastiest part of the whole state. I never much liked Dallas.

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Pacifien wrote...

Dallas/Ft. Worth, Houston, and Austin all get -1,000 disapproval for toll roads.


Ever spent much time in Shreveport, La?  All I'll say is that tollroads felt like a godsend to me after 3 years of grass growing through the interstate and major highways with no turning lanes.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
Dallas/Ft. Worth, Houston, and Austin all get -1,000 disapproval for toll roads.

Ever spent much time in Shreveport, La?  All I'll say is that tollroads felt like a godsend to me after 3 years of grass growing through the interstate and major highways with no turning lanes.

I've lived in the Bay Area. Toll roads will always get -1,000 disapproval points.

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Garrus *cough*

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what are these trollroads you're talking about?

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Anyway, what other kinds of triggers would you guys liked to have seen for the Garrus romance besides reach and flexibility? I know that is a good one, but hypothetically what else might have been fun as well?

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 I've already said that I would have liked Garrus himself to possibly express interest overtly.  Of course, that might just be OCC and me imposing my idle fancies on the character.  I freely admit it.

@JulianP

I've always thought that the allergy thing kind of varied from person to person sort of like with other allergies.  Cats kinda make my eyes water, but my sister's eyes will swell shut around them.  I always imagined some turians could eat human food and it wouldn't hurt them.  It'd be like eating paper or something.  No nutrition but no harm.  Some are really allergic.   Maybe Garrus can eat levo food with no harm?  In that case, I guess some turians could drink human wine and the ethanol would still get them drunk.  Huh, that's an interesting idea.

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I won't pretend I have a fetish for humans...



I think Garrus making the first move would have been a bit left field for the character.



There's so little dialog per squadmate in ME2 that it's hard to consider another likely trigger. While a "Horizon must have been rough, getting a reception like that; you alright, Commander?" might have been a nice opportunity to suggest that maybe you were "never that close anyway" with that Shepard arm-cross that means 'things are afoot', it would be best done with Garrus approaching you about it and that's just not how Biowork is done.

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Random question: Why doesn't Garrus put his helmet back on after the PC meets him in the Archangel scene? Apparently, he can snipe just fine with it on. Or was it a metagame thing, just so we could see more of his face? Or maybe he actually put it on just before we came in but likes to keep it off and rely on shields?



He came dangerously close to having his face blown to bits. Probably had to have some implant done to deal with the hearing loss there...and Shepard's probably half deaf by now...


#5617
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Yeah, I think it would be out of character for Garrus to start the romance, and I can't really think of anything else for FemShep to say. I like to imagine my MainShep got some advice that she has to be very blunt with turians... then "reach and flexibility" happened. xD

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JulianP wrote...

Random question: Why doesn't Garrus put his helmet back on after the PC meets him in the Archangel scene? Apparently, he can snipe just fine with it on. Or was it a metagame thing, just so we could see more of his face? Or maybe he actually put it on just before we came in but likes to keep it off and rely on shields?

He came dangerously close to having his face blown to bits. Probably had to have some implant done to deal with the hearing loss there...and Shepard's probably half deaf by now...


I think it's a metagame thing since Garrus being in the game was a surprise.  With helmet you get gratuitous "slowly removes helmet" scene followed by player freak-out of "It's Garrus!!"

Huh, hearing loss.  Never thought about that.  Suppose he is deaf on that side now?  I wonder what kind of "cybernetics" they had to put in.  Well "full functionality" seems to imply he can hear but maybe that is what the cybernetics fixed?

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Kim Shepard wrote...

Yeah, I think it would be out of character for Garrus to start the romance, and I can't really think of anything else for FemShep to say. I like to imagine my MainShep got some advice that she has to be very blunt with turians... then "reach and flexibility" happened. xD


"reach and flexibility" was embarrassingly awkward for me.  But I do like it that Garrus isn't all hitting on you.  He's subtler than he looks :-) In ME1 it was like "why is everyone hitting on me!" and I had to make the rounds of the ship just to shut down all the gossip and mind games about whose I was going to be.

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@Ragabul,
Is that a Texas hat? ;-)   (in profile pic)

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JulianP wrote...

Kim Shepard wrote...

Yeah, I think it would be out of character for Garrus to start the romance, and I can't really think of anything else for FemShep to say. I like to imagine my MainShep got some advice that she has to be very blunt with turians... then "reach and flexibility" happened. xD


"reach and flexibility" was embarrassingly awkward for me.  But I do like it that Garrus isn't all hitting on you.  He's subtler than he looks :-) In ME1 it was like "why is everyone hitting on me!" and I had to make the rounds of the ship just to shut down all the gossip and mind games about whose I was going to be.


I don't really like reach and flexibility that much either though I admit I have no idea what else it should be.  It's WAY out of character for my Sheps.  However, Garrus reaction is priceless so I am willing to deal with it for that reason.  I guess I could play it like my Shep figured that was the only way anything would ever happen.  She had to be blunt.  Otherwise it would have stayed in best friends territory forever.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Huh, hearing loss.  Never thought about that.  Suppose he is deaf on that side now?  I wonder what kind of "cybernetics" they had to put in.  Well "full functionality" seems to imply he can hear but maybe that is what the cybernetics fixed?


Ah yes, he did say "full functionaality" didn't he.  Yeah, there's no way you can run around with a rifle like that blowing everything up and not get hearing loss...and that, of course, would screw up FemShep's pillow talk with Garrus.    I enjoy toggling the helmet off the party to see them better, but I always feel uncomfortable with how dangerous it is.  I just have to pretend that the shields include virtual earplugs!

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@Ragabul,
Is that a Texas hat? ;-)   (in profile pic)


Naw, just a generic cowboy hat but man it caused a stir.  Oh well.  :P

A question for you guys.  Lots of you guys seem to like to interpret early pre-romance dialog as flirty.  Do you guys actually go with the "idle crush" idea and if so do you think it would be in character for Garrus to ever voice that?

For the record, I don't think he ever thought about it at all which is why that dialog isn't flirty to me.

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Can't stop, but had to swing in and say - Raga I <3 <3 <3 your profile pic!!!!! Awesome!





That is all.



(also, I like that Garrus doesn't initiate the romance. I don't think he would have crossed that line without Shepard's prompting. As impulsive as he can be, he seems like he'd overthink relationships on that level too much to risk it. Just look at the way he tries to give Shep an 'out' for theirs: he def doesn't want the responsibility of changing the nature of his relationship with one of his closest friends and allies.)



OK, that really is all. lol (so many pages to catch up on, and I gotta jet! Have a fun night, Clan V!) :D

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
 I guess I could play it like my Shep figured that was the only way anything would ever happen.  She had to be blunt.  Otherwise it would have stayed in best friends territory forever.

That's the way I played it with MainShep.

MainShep: *thinking* I have to be blunt. That's the only way he'll figure it out. What do I say? I don't know how to flirt with a turian...
Garrus: *keeps talking*
MainShep: How about we skip right to the tiebreaker?
Garrus: Oh... yeah, definitely.
MainShep: It worked! Victory is mine.