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[Kim Shepard]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

@ Kim
Bioware needs to hire you for a writer.  All the ****ing on the DA2 boards about predetermined characters would end abruptly if they revealed you got to play with THAT predetermined list of characteristics.  I would anyway.

Thanks. You mean MainShep's kids, or them and all the Shepards combined? There probably are enough types of characters in their group that everyone would like at least some of them.

[silentstephi]

X3



I just had an OH SNAP moment...

The purchase is a good one Raga!

Anything to support the awesome that is this venue.

X3

[Kim Shepard]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Kim Shepard wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

@ Kim
Bioware needs to hire you for a writer.  All the ****ing on the DA2 boards about predetermined characters would end abruptly if they revealed you got to play with THAT predetermined list of characteristics.  I would anyway.

Thanks. You mean MainShep's kids, or them and all the Shepards combined? There probably are enough types of characters in their group that everyone would like at least some of them.

I meant all of the above.   That'd be a great squad.  Reincarnated Saren and turian biotic/action star-too-cool-to--look-at-explosions kid.  Plus Garrus.  Come on, what's not to like?

I would like to see that team. And it would be really nice to see Saren again.

[JulianP]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

 As for turian tears, I have no idea if they do cry.  Most of their emotions seem to be displayed via mandibles so I'm sure there's something there to display sadness.  A lot of folks think the "headbump" is basically a turian kiss, or they like to think that anyway.  Lots of fics support that idea anyway.  So I think sadness would probably manifest in something like that.  Some other signal a human might not immediately get.  For all we know, Garrus may have already done it and we didn't recognize it.  I could go with this idea IF it was done carefully and I mean VERY carefully.  It has a lot of potential to be abused, but Bioware's got some good writers.  If they wanted something like this, they could come up with something I am sure.

Yes, definitely *very* carefully.  This is the sort of thing that makes one wonder whether to try one's hand at fanficing... or whether it would just be a disaster.

Funny how some creatures cry and others don't.  I've had a lot of birds, and some howl while others just sort of sulk.  Who knows, maybe Shepard is all "hmm, Turians are so reserved" while they are like "If you taped his mandibles down he wouldn't be able to talk!" 

[Kim Shepard]

...Just realized I typed "reincarnated" Saren instead of "resurrected" Saren. xD In my personal canon, MainShep got TIM to resurrect him. They stay on each other's good side.

I have all the Mass Effect stuff available in stores, except Retribution because it just came out and the iPhone game because I don't have an iPhone. I think there's an artbook that came out closer to ME1's release that would be impossible to find in stores now too. I bought ME1 pretty close to ME2's release.

[silentstephi]

I can't remember where I read it, but humans cry because of a certain build up of a chemical... crying helps us get rid of it. That's gotta be on a wiki somewhere...

I think the headbump as a "kiss" gets overused because we have very, very little to go on. And there's some out there who crave the alien, while some of us fall back on the familiar. I think both fic and canon writers fall between both lines. There seem to be things that shouldn't be "familiar" to the alien races that gets used, but then again, the consumer is human, so we need ways to relate.



Honestly, I'm just happy with what they've developed so far, but we have TONS of unanswered questions that I would love answers too... :3

/goes back to consuming Retributon

[Kim Shepard]

Yeah, I think humans and turians find each other equally hard to read. I can imagine Garrus thinking "Why is she looking at me like that?" when FemShep gives him that smile. xD For some reason, a lot of Shepard's smiles look like he/she's planning something...

Turian biotic too-cool-to-look-at-the-explosions kid has a name now! It was just perfect, and immediately reminded me of the Garrus romance. Calix. It means "wine cup" in Latin.

[JulianP]

Oh, there's some very scary fic out there, no doubt about that.  There's some decent stuff as well.  kglaser has read just about every Garrus fic known to man so she could probably give you some good ideas.  The stuff I like tends to be very risque.  I think there is also a fanficiton thread in Clan Vakarian.  

Hmm.. maybe I should try then.  I used to think it was lame, until I realized that a lot of wonderful scifi was written by fans who eventually got paid to write "fan"fic.  I gave up at fiction back in middle school, because I hated my stories, but earlier this school year (now in grad school) I took it up again and found I wasn't as bad as I feared.

I've wondered how emotive Garrus is compared to all turians.  I get the feeling they are just reserved as a species.

I definitely get that vibe too.  I've spent about half my life on each side of the planet, and being mostly Asian, I remember being sort of awkward about often the white kids hugged.  The "Turian Air Quotes" was one of the more expressive moments, and I think someone pointed out that they *finally* found a dancing turian in ME2...

 If anything I would kinda expect him to be somewhat emotive compared to other turians.  Most other turians don't seem to get as worked up about things as he does, or if they do they don't show it.  Garrus is fiery.  

Yeah, he's sort of passionate, especially when it comes to Great Justice, and I get the sense that he gets criticized for showing it as much as he does.  Some of his battle lines are positively worked up. 

But he does have the turian tendency to shove his feelings into the background for the good of the mission or the team, especially the softer stuff.  I also think turians might be a lot more expressive than we think they are.  There's lots of times when Garrus' mandibles will give an odd little twitch here or there and I can't help but think "that means something, but I have no idea what."  I've gotten better at reading turian expressions but I think it will always be tough for a human.

Do you think Garrus finds human facial expressions as hard to decipher as we do with turians?

He's all business when the mission gets serious.  But I love how even in fights if you try to talk to him he'll usually say something friendly and helpful rather than a pissed off "We're in the middle of a *fight*!"  I love the mandible twitching.  The one Nihlus did was pretty unforgettable.   Fortunately for humans, they seem to do a similar nose/brow wrinkly thing.  They probably wonder why we show our teeth so much and why our eyes go all squinty sometimes and why we spit so much when we talk.  If, like some animals, they don't do the tears and snot, they might think that's kinda gross. 

[Kim Shepard]

Yeah, he's an orphan. I like him too. Now I just need to plan out the colors (skin, faceplate, eyes, tattoos). I might do a playthrough for "Calix Shepard" to see what the galaxy would be like with him in charge of all the decisions.

MainShep: Do you want to keep your last name, or take on one of ours?
Calix: Please, it's just "Calix" to you.

Okay, so I just didn't want to look up a last name. xD Although "Calix Arterius" sounds pretty awesome to me.

[silentstephi]

Night Raga!



OMGOMGOMGOMG

FEMALE TURIAN IN THE BOOK!

/happydance

*gets gagged and bound and dragged off to the funny farm*

[J4N3_M3]

Good Morning everyone and thanks Stephi, I knew I had something on my list to order. Just did, now I gotta wait. ^.^

[JulianP]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

 I don't think turians do much in the saliva department for several reason.  One, they have gizzards and fangs which implies that not a whole lot of chewing goes on and spit is largely about helping us soften up our food when we eat.  Also, their mouth structure means, well, drooling would be a problem with a lot of saliva.  I think a turian's tongue is like a cat's.  Kinda dry and scratchy.  So no, overall I don't they have much going on in the spit and snot and tear department, and they probably think humans are kinda squishy and...juicy?  Haha, why am I suddenly reminded of HK-47 and Revan?  

Yeah, I agree; the gizzard thing does suggest birds, and birds don't really have saliva.  Some birds have some surprisingly soft tongues   and as an aside, there are definitely some interesting types of tongues out there.  My family has some nectivorous parrots with tongues that are actually have a brush-tipped area. Very tickly when stuck into your ear! 

Those turian teeth look really handsome.

[Bugsie]

silentstephi wrote...

/goes back to consuming Retributon

5-21 days for mail order delivery - I Can't wait that long!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOO!

I'll just have to satisy myself reading Garfield Effect:Galaxy Adventures, I'm at work and had to go out side because I couldn't stop crying with laughter after reading this line:


"Thank you Garfield for all your help, in honor of you I will change my name to Tali Vas Garfield." Said Tali with deep Gratitude and loving.

[Aricle]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
*snip*
Haha, why am I suddenly reminded of HK-47 and Revan?  

Revan: Why do you keep calling me "meatbag."
HK-47:  It's all this water, master.  How the constant sloshing doesn't drive you mad I can't imagine.
Revan: Neither can I, now you mention it. 

Sorry, KotoR reference.  Couldn't help myself.

Pure pazaak. One of my favourite quotes/ interchanges. I like to randomly say that to the students, somewhat like Wrex and Shepard do the "Shepard." "Wrex." routine. (Much better end comment than the boring 'I should go'.)

[SpatFieya]

Word from the Tali thread, comrades.

Alright, I've been listening to this song for awhile, and I heavily correlate it to Garrus going through the hardships on omega, and later with Sidonis. As if the song was written by Shepard, watching Garrus. his/her best friend, go through his troubles and emotional burdens, and how it nearly breaks him. 

Shinedown - What a Shame.

"I watched it all up close, 
I knew him more than most
I saw a side of him he never showed
Full of sympathy for a world that
Wouldn't let him be

That's the man he was, 
Have you heard enough?"

We over at the Tali thread love you Garrus thread.

Modifié par SpatFieya, 28 juillet 2010 - 07:21 .

[Bugsie]

SpatFieya wrote...

Word from the Tali thread, comrades.

Alright, I've been listening to this song for awhile, and I heavily correlate it to Garrus going through the hardships on omega, and later with Sidonis. As if the song was written by Shepard, watching Garrus. his/her best friend, go through his troubles and emotional burdens, and how it nearly breaks him. 

Shinedown - What a Shame.

"I watched it all up close, 
I knew him more than most
I saw a side of him he never showed
Full of sympathy for a world that
Wouldn't let him be

That's the man he was, 
Have you heard enough?"

We over at the Tali thread love you Garrus thread.

We loves you too  

[Nilfalasiel]

silentstephi wrote...

Also, turians have a trachea, and asari bleed red.

That's...problematic. As far as I remember, they bled purple in the games (at least in ME2).

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I agree we have no evidence whatsoever that headbump=turian kiss and I don't think that is the case personally. I think it's just a headbump.

The thing is, turians wouldn't be able to kiss the way humans do. They lack the lips, and it would simply be too dangerous to stick your tongue in that kind of mouth. The equation between the headbump and the kiss is on the emotional level: it definitely looks like a way for a turian to express intimacy, especially since they seem rather averse to physical contact otherwise (cf. Tali and all that adorable hugging and hand-holding as contrast). I think it's very plausible that the headbump is the equivalent of a kiss. The way I imagine it, I also like to think that FemShep goes on to show Garrus what a human kiss is like (being extra careful, of course! or perhaps keeping it outside the mouth). Y'know, cultural sharing and all that

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 28 juillet 2010 - 08:29 .