Right, I just meant that even plants contain amino acids. Are those levo amino acids as well? And would those amino acids survive the process of being made into an alcoholic drink? I know ME contains copious amounts of psuedoscience and I am no chemist I admit it. I just thought the codex made it out that turians couldn't eat human food at all because of chirality issues. Does that just mean they couldn't eat steak or meat or stuff with lots of protein in it? Or would they have the same issues if they ate bread or vegetables? I need to ask my sister about this. She's a sciencey type.
And yes, this is ridiculously technical and obsessive, but it is for a good cause. We must find out what substances are good for when we want to get drunk with Garrus!
Calibrations: Garrus Love and Turian Discussion
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Posté 29 juillet 2010 - 11:44
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Morning Garrus thread, I bring poached eggs, smoked salmon and Holliandaise sause, along with a VERY LARGE cup of coffee. I have to go to a stupid 4hr meeting 
in a minute so just a quick in and out for me.
I mean what is the point?????
OT - on my very first playthrough of ME1, I let the council die. You know why? Because Garrus told me too (I had Kaidan and Garrus with me and I never romanced Kaidan so I wasn't going to listen to him).
And here I thought it was Garrus who was easily led.......
in a minute so just a quick in and out for me.They were advertising a Bourbon burger on TV last night - in fine print underneath it said *bourbon sauce does not contain alcohol.Steel Dancer wrote...
Oh, and on the dressings thing? Jack Daniels BBQ Sauce. That is all.
I mean what is the point?????
OT - on my very first playthrough of ME1, I let the council die. You know why? Because Garrus told me too (I had Kaidan and Garrus with me and I never romanced Kaidan so I wasn't going to listen to him).
And here I thought it was Garrus who was easily led.......
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Posté 29 juillet 2010 - 11:50
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MaleShep is going to use the "concentrate on Sovereign" option, and it's not because of his resentment for the Council either (and he really does like them less and less with each main mission). It's just that he decided Sovereign was the most important thing, and he needed to focus all of his attack forces on that. This is not a Shepard who knows or cares about politics. So I'm going to see an angry Etarn Tiron in my next ME2 playthrough, but I'll still remember him as the happy turian fan who wants to name his firstborn after Shepard.
@Ragabul: Calix, the little badass turian I made up, would agree with you about the salad. Probably because he's a kid who just doesn't want to eat his salad. I could see him eating his meat raw though...
Also, "In Russia, vodka drinks you" made me laugh. xD
It's a sign that I've been hanging around this thread too much. xDJackalope wrote...
Renegade Shepard and Saren: Wh-what? Oh sorry, don't know how that slipped in there...
@Ragabul: Calix, the little badass turian I made up, would agree with you about the salad. Probably because he's a kid who just doesn't want to eat his salad. I could see him eating his meat raw though...
Also, "In Russia, vodka drinks you" made me laugh. xD
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Posté 29 juillet 2010 - 11:51
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I expected Garrus to do that when I had Tali with me, but lo and behold it was Tali who suggested we off the council. That surprised me a little. Then I remembered how lousy the Council has treated the quarians and I understood.
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Posté 29 juillet 2010 - 11:53
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Wow, I'm reading about chirality just now. Turians are basically sugar based? That's awesome. Of course, I knew that. *clears throat* liquid sugar
It just didn't really sink in.
@Kim
And what's the result of not eating his salad? Why, he becomes so cool he doesn't look at explosions, that's what. That kid's got it right.
It just didn't really sink in.
@Kim
And what's the result of not eating his salad? Why, he becomes so cool he doesn't look at explosions, that's what. That kid's got it right.
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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
I expected Garrus to do that when I had Tali with me, but lo and behold it was Tali who suggested we off the council. That surprised me a little. Then I remembered how lousy the Council has treated the quarians and I understood.
I've had Wrex tell me to save to Council and Liara tell me to kill them once.
Mass Effect...can get very confusing.
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Posté 29 juillet 2010 - 11:58
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I'm under the impression that a high proof alcoholic drink has no protein in it, or such miniscule amount that you'd need a high quality chemical analysis machine to find it. Anyway, still think Garrus would be the sort of Turian with a minor allergic reaction if at all. Give him a Benadryl.
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Posté 29 juillet 2010 - 11:59
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Nonono. Sugar =/= amino acid.Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
Wow, I'm reading about chirality just now. Turians are basically sugar based? That's awesome. Of course, I knew that. *clears throat* liquid sugar
It just didn't really sink in.
But that doesn't mean Turians won't taste like liquid sugar.
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Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 12:09
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Nonono. Sugar =/= amino acid.
But that doesn't mean Turians won't taste like liquid sugar.
WAAAHHH! You're making the poor history major's head asplode! No, it's okay. I'm obsessive. I'll read about it until I get it. No worries.
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Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 12:09
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MaleShep will bring Tali and Wrex to the final battle, so Tali will probably be the one telling him to save the Council. It'll be interesting to watch. She'll convince him not to kill the rachni, but his battle decisions will not be changed.
And I noticed that bringing Garrus to Noveria with Tali instead of Liara, Garrus gets all of the lines Tali used to get before. Not that I don't like hearing Garrus' lines, but this was the "for Tali" playthrough for a reason...
And I noticed that bringing Garrus to Noveria with Tali instead of Liara, Garrus gets all of the lines Tali used to get before. Not that I don't like hearing Garrus' lines, but this was the "for Tali" playthrough for a reason...
He does eat donuts though. Human donuts, because allergies just wouldn't dare to effect him.Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
@Kim
And what's the result of not eating his salad? Why, he becomes so cool he doesn't look at explosions, that's what. That kid's got it right.
#6036
Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 12:28
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Just how exatly strong is a Turian?
If you watch Garrus maul Harkin then he seriously must be strong to pull that off.
However in many fics, Garrus is handly beaten by Shep, strength wise which comes off wierd?
So is Garrus as a turian stronger than Shepard even with Cybernetics. Talked about this with my friend and she said "I wouldnt mind losing to Garrus, makes the tie breaker more fun."
If you watch Garrus maul Harkin then he seriously must be strong to pull that off.
However in many fics, Garrus is handly beaten by Shep, strength wise which comes off wierd?
So is Garrus as a turian stronger than Shepard even with Cybernetics. Talked about this with my friend and she said "I wouldnt mind losing to Garrus, makes the tie breaker more fun."
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Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 12:32
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I think it depends on which turian and human it is. In general, I think turians are stronger than humans, but I think Shepard is stronger than everyone. 
Doesn't mean Garrus wouldn't give her a good challenge in a real fight though.
Doesn't mean Garrus wouldn't give her a good challenge in a real fight though.
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Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 12:36
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Giggles_Manically wrote...
Just how exatly strong is a Turian?
If you watch Garrus maul Harkin then he seriously must be strong to pull that off.
However in many fics, Garrus is handly beaten by Shep, strength wise which comes off wierd?
So is Garrus as a turian stronger than Shepard even with Cybernetics. Talked about this with my friend and she said "I wouldnt mind losing to Garrus, makes the tie breaker more fun."
Community seems rather split down the middle on this one. I personally think turians are stronger and can take more damage than a human. Unfortunately a lot of our examples of turian/human fighting involves Shep and Saren and neither of those guys are good examples as they both have lots of cybernetic upgrades and are in general epic badasses. In a fight between Garrus and Shep, I think it would depend on the Shepard, but my guess is that he/she would have a better chance of taking out a turian head on than anybody. Consider the turians she throws around on Samara's loyalty mission or the epic face punch that gets delivered to Saren.
This Cerberus news article is one of the few instances of direct human vs turian we have:
"Light heavyweight sensation Zarren “The Varren” Casias scored an upset victory over light heavyweight champion Luis “Laser” Reyes in mixed martial arts action last night. “Fight Night at Earth’s Pontiac Silverdome” was delayed by hooligans in the stands, as human and turian fans threw drinks and chairs at one another, and over 30 people were ejected. The five-round match only lasted two, with Luis receiving cuts over both eyes early in the first round that may have hampered his vision. Allowed to continue, a desperate clinch by Reyes brought the match to the ground, where both fighters slipped in the blood and Casias brought things to an end with a triangle choke. Casias is the second turian to win the light heavyweight title, and his victory puts non-humans as title-holders for all nine weight classes."
Obviously, they wouldn't let a turian compete against a human if they weren't somewhat evenly matched, but at the same time that seems to imply humans aren't having a good time of it. Overall, we don't have much evidence so I say pick whichever option you like best.
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Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 12:43
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Zarren "the Varren" - I've always liked his name. 
I wonder if what happened to that poor human was a result of the turian not wearing gloves. Now that I think of it, aren't a lot of wrestlers shirtless? ...Shepard, go watch a turian wrestling match for science.
I wonder if what happened to that poor human was a result of the turian not wearing gloves. Now that I think of it, aren't a lot of wrestlers shirtless? ...Shepard, go watch a turian wrestling match for science.
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Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 12:48
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Kim Shepard wrote...
Zarren "the Varren" - I've always liked his name.
I wonder if what happened to that poor human was a result of the turian not wearing gloves. Now that I think of it, aren't a lot of wrestlers shirtless? ...Shepard, go watch a turian wrestling match for science.
That article mentions "non-humans" winning. I wonder what other critters they are letting compete? Asari, okay. Drell, okay. Krogan? That doesn't seem fair at all. Come to think, don't we have some other article somewhere of some other idiot trying to box a krogan or something? Or am I pulling that out of my butt? Anyway, my point is that is they are using weight as the only qualification there than that would be a really lopsided competition given variance between species and genders and so on. Weight doesn't necessarily mean much. Remember flexible female turian? She's either epic or it suggests there isn't too much difference in strength between male and female turians or that female turian flexibility makes up for lack of strength. That probably means that average female turian could kick average female human's butt even if they weighed the same.
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Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 12:50
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This seems to be a common theme in many fics:
1) Reach and Flexibility discussed
2) Shepard and Garrus throw down.
3) Garrys pins shepard and realizes she has "interesting" parts.
4) Things get steamy farther down the road.
Just something I noticed.
1) Reach and Flexibility discussed
2) Shepard and Garrus throw down.
3) Garrys pins shepard and realizes she has "interesting" parts.
4) Things get steamy farther down the road.
Just something I noticed.
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Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 12:53
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In Russia, vodka drinks YOU! ...dammit, that looks smutty but I know it can't be!
ANYTHING can be smutty. Have faith.
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Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 12:58
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Giggles_Manically wrote...
This seems to be a common theme in many fics:
1) Reach and Flexibility discussed
2) Shepard and Garrus throw down.
3) Garrys pins shepard and realizes she has "interesting" parts.
4) Things get steamy farther down the road.
Just something I noticed.
Yea, those fics get old. Unfortunately there are so many Garrus fics that lots of authors just recycle other authors' ideas. I have found much of the best Garrus fic is the older stuff. Not all of it certainly. There are still good fics being produced. But more recently fics have been forced to get increasingly eccentric in order to come up with new ideas. There are several other trends I can think of too. "First time shenanigans produces allergic reaction" is a common one. So is "sparring match leads to shenanigans." Those are getting kind of old. There's also "Garrus/Shep saves the other from death, Mordin points out panic as typical of 'mates,' and one of them has some epiphany that they felt that way all along." There's tons of trends. You have to do a lot of sifting to get to the good, unique stuff.
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Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 12:58
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Kim Shepard wrote...
And I noticed that bringing Garrus to Noveria with Tali instead of Liara, Garrus gets all of the lines Tali used to get before. Not that I don't like hearing Garrus' lines, but this was the "for Tali" playthrough for a reason...
But if you bring Tali to Feros to meet the Thorian, even if you have Garrus there, she steals his line about first meeting it. I brought him to hear him say that thing about "This was not in the training manuals" but instead she said something like "Keelah! What is that thing??" Rats!
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Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 01:00
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Aw, after much reading I think I finally get the chirality thing. I think anyway.
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Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 01:01
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Today I bought a SmartPhone with internet capability because I didn't want to leave for a week and miss this board.
I need lots and lots of help.
I need lots and lots of help.
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Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 01:10
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Hey, this is being sent from my phone to see if it works.
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Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 01:10
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Oops, my finger slippped. Yay, it worked though!
Garrus pic due to double post.
Garrus pic due to double post.
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Minor Retribution spoiler please. When is this book set, before or after ME2?
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Posté 30 juillet 2010 - 01:41
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Thanks guys, glad you like the pic, I'm still working on my painting skills.
To be fair with the council, the asari and the salarian were on good terms with my Shepard, just the turian councilor just me rubs me the wrong way with his finger quotes "Ah yes... reapers."
Ever since then, I've always do this every time had a meeting "Ah yes... reach."
Still I do admit that Shepard sounded like a Cassandra when she's trying convince them about the reaper threat, I can't blame them for being skeptical. That's just politics I supposed. Besides, isn't the Reaper's goal is to kill the core leaders of the organic civilisation, causing the rest of the species to scattered? Saving the council in retrospect seem to be a strategic move.
Since someone mention about fan fics, ff.net is known as the "pits of vole" for a reason. It's pretty hard to find decent fiction since 90% of the time it's kinda terrible, didn't helped that surgeon's theory about only "90% is crap, 10% is the good stuff." Although... one of the good fics I've managed to read recently was "The Hundred Year distance." Yeah... let's just say I'm reaching for the tissues and now it's hard for me to play ME2 on my favourite Shepard without thinking the fic.
Well... one other thing I've been thinking recently, this might confuse you guys, but how many polygons does it take to model a turian, especially Garrus? I'm doing 3D modeling class this semester and while I was starting to model my character on Maya, this got me thinking about. From the complex design on the turians, doing the mesh and the animation can't be that easy... especially the mandribles.
To be fair with the council, the asari and the salarian were on good terms with my Shepard, just the turian councilor just me rubs me the wrong way with his finger quotes "Ah yes... reapers."
Ever since then, I've always do this every time had a meeting "Ah yes... reach."
Still I do admit that Shepard sounded like a Cassandra when she's trying convince them about the reaper threat, I can't blame them for being skeptical. That's just politics I supposed. Besides, isn't the Reaper's goal is to kill the core leaders of the organic civilisation, causing the rest of the species to scattered? Saving the council in retrospect seem to be a strategic move.
Since someone mention about fan fics, ff.net is known as the "pits of vole" for a reason. It's pretty hard to find decent fiction since 90% of the time it's kinda terrible, didn't helped that surgeon's theory about only "90% is crap, 10% is the good stuff." Although... one of the good fics I've managed to read recently was "The Hundred Year distance." Yeah... let's just say I'm reaching for the tissues and now it's hard for me to play ME2 on my favourite Shepard without thinking the fic.
Well... one other thing I've been thinking recently, this might confuse you guys, but how many polygons does it take to model a turian, especially Garrus? I'm doing 3D modeling class this semester and while I was starting to model my character on Maya, this got me thinking about. From the complex design on the turians, doing the mesh and the animation can't be that easy... especially the mandribles.
