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[Collider]

Garrus was shooting down mercs left and right until Sidonis betrayed him. He was basically on fire before the betrayal. It would take a lot to get all of the merc bands on Omega to team up against him. It would take a good squad and a great leader. And that's just what Garrus had and was.

[TMA LIVE]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Suzene wrote...

I'm sad to say I didn't try Garrus as leader initially. In part I was unwilling to risk him, and in part it was the fate of his last squad. I was pleased when I experimented later and found he came through. Sorry Garrus, I should have trusted you.

That's something that I see often. The thing is, what happened to Garrus' squad was through no fault of his own. He didn't fail as a leader, it's just that Sidonis was a coward. No amount of leadership on Garrus' part would've changed that. He might perhaps have known that Sidonis was a coward beforehand, but if he showed no signs of wanting to betray the team before the mercs got to him, then how could Garrus possibly have foreseen it?

Besides, he didn't lead his team to their deaths. He simply came back to his base, and found them mostly dead.

[kglaser]

Good point, Collider. If Garrus/Archangel wasn't a great leader, he would not have been perceived as such a threat by virtually everyone.

[Kim Shepard]

I have a lot of posts to catch up on here -

MainShep never uses the Paragon interrupt in Garrus' romance scene, or the "you were always ugly" dialogue. I know Garrus wouldn't think of them as mean-spirited or anything like that, but MainShep would. To her, it would sound like literally adding insult to injury. They're both totally out of character for her. MaleShep won't use that line either. Too bad there's no "battle scars are awesome" line for him. He would never say that a battle scar looked ugly or needed to be covered with facepaint. He'd show them off like a krogan. The neutral line isn't perfect for him (it is for MainShep), but still better in comparison.

If we could choose a second-in-command for each Shepard based on which squadmates they like and who they work well with, that would be awesome. I think a lot of my Shepards would choose Garrus. The ability to be friends with squadmates would be great too. I keep thinking about how well MainShep and Zaeed would get along if he was in my game. MainShep and MaleShep will choose Garrus as team leader both times, by the way. They trust him much more than Miranda and Jacob (and in MainShep's case, that's not because they work for Cerberus).

I agree with the charm/intimidate system being much better in ME1 too. The ME2 system can be really annoying. My Paragade MainShep couldn't solve the Miranda/Jack conflict (but I did wait too long between them) or the ones in Samara's loyalty mission (Samara had to save her). Luckily, the Tali/Legion Paragon response worked. I hope things work out for my MaleShep, whose Paragon/Renegade scores are basically equal in ME1. The most important for him is the Renegade speech at Tali's trial. The Miranda/Jack fight doesn't matter because Miranda needs to be unloyal in his playthrough.

Also, everyone probably knows already that I agree with the need for asari repellant and "hands off" dialogue or interrupts. xD The only asari I actually liked is Aria. The fact that she doesn't flirt with Shepard probably has something to do with it.

[Kim Shepard]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Lol, we need "I support asari repellent for ME3" banners with a picture of that creepy bug-eyed Seryna chick on it.

I don't remember who Seryna is... but asari repellant banners would be cool. Unfortunately, some humans do the same thing. I read about Parasini giving MaleShep a kiss on the cheek if he helps her out in ME2. Lucky for my MaleShep, he didn't help her out in ME1, said she annoyed him, and won't help her out in ME2 (if he even gets that option).

[Bugsie]

Hey, nothing wrong with bug eyed!!



Rachni need lovin' too.



OT - even on my first playthrough where I still hadn't gotten used to the characters, there was absolutely no question in my mind who would make the better leader - even though he saw himself as a failure.

[Kim Shepard]

I read all the spoilers before my first ME2 playthrough, so I knew for a fact that Garrus would make a good team leader. If I hadn't known, I would have kept him with Shepard all times so nothing could kill him. The only things that were a surprise for me in ME2 were the little things.

When I first played ME1, I didn't know about the Wiki until towards the end, so I messed up a lot with "experiment" Shepard. Hearing Sovereign's speech on Virmire without spoilers... that was awesome. I'm glad I read about Saren's suicide ahead of time though. I knew it was going to happen, and I was still shocked to see it. If I hadn't known, it would have been more like, "Whaaaaat?! D: No, Saren! That's not what I meant by "redeem yourself"! *gets Shepard killed for not paying attention to the battle*"

@Ragabul: The image right under "She seemed a little... off..." is hilarious. xD

[Kim Shepard]

Mordin's thinking of a way to make that repellant. xD Because if the asari even flirt with Ugly Shepard, there's nothing any Shepards can do. Even flirting with Shepards who have boyfriends or girlfriends. That's just wrong. They're lucky game limitations won't let MainShep break out the shotgun. (Actually, I've seen a ME1 video on youtube with a Shepard throwing grenades on NPCs on the Citadel to make them disappear. I would never try it for fear that it would be game-breaking though.)

Modifié par Kim Shepard, 03 août 2010 - 12:16 .

[kglaser]

What about that asari in charge of the Samara investigation when you go to recruit her? She doesn't hit on you, either...is all business. Although I'll say Aria was more awesome.

[Kim Shepard]

Yeah, it's always nice when the asari don't flirt with Shepard. I didn't like her personality though. I think Aria's cool. It would be interesting if she really was that asari commando Wrex fought with.

And to keep this on topic, why don't the turians flirt with FemShep? Not unwelcome flirting like the asari or Parasini where they touch Shepard and he/she can't say anything about it. Only the drunk turians do it, like that one in Chora's Den who wants to know if FemShep will be dancing later. xD Asking her if she wants to sit down and have a drink like Lorik did (except he wasn't flirting because he says it to MaleShep too) would be nice.

[kglaser]

I'd support flirting non-drunk turians in ME3, sure



And a *female* turian flirting with MaleShep? Awesome!!

[ciaweth]

Kim Shepard wrote...
Asking her if she wants to sit down and have a drink like Lorik did (except he wasn't flirting because he says it to MaleShep too) would be nice.

You never know.  Maybe Lorik swings either way.

[Kim Shepard]

Didn't Xsauce make a comic of all the turians flirting with FemShep? I'll have to check the OP... what I remember of it was hilarious and awesome.

A female turian would be great. A female turian flirting with MaleShep would be even better.

Shepard #4: Nope, no romance for me. Wait, there's a turian option? !!!

@ciaweth: It just doesn't seem like something that would happen in Mass Effect, that's what I meant. They made female/female romances with the asari because they're "monogendered". I don't know what the exception was for Kelly. But so far, there hasn't been any male/male.

[Gilsa]

I remember being irritated with Miranda and Jack's constant squabbling on my first game.  I even took them along on each other's loyalty missions because I thought once they saw what the other person had to deal with, they'd lighten up, but no, there was just more snark so when that catfight rolled around, I went renegade on them and stopped taking either of them along on missions.  When the SM rolled around and Miranda offered to step up as a fire team leader, Jack, of course, had an opinon and I thought oh, not this s*** again. I was THISCLOSE to making Jack team leader just to annoy the two of them, but when I scrolled down to Garrus' name on this list, I realized the turian was the only person I trusted to have my back.

I didn't like having him out of my control because I didn't know if something would happen to the away team, but there was just no one else that even held a candle to Garrus. He was my fire team leader both times and I was immensely satisfied with how well that played out. However, on my last game, I wanted Garrus in my group and I wanted to hear Miranda render her resignation to TIM so I thought I picked the right order so Shepard could grab Garrus when the walls started coming down, but nope, it was Miranda who stole the show. That's OK. I liked what she had to say to TIM and she seemed to reinforce she had my back when she was the one to pull me up on the ship, too. Next time!

[Kim Shepard]

I think a lot of people choose Garrus for that reason, because they trust him much more than Miranda. That's why most of my Shepards choose him.

And as long as Garrus is in the slot on the right, he should be the one Shepard catches when falling from the platform. Garrus will only catch Shepard at the end before Jack and Thane though. I haven't managed to get Thane to catch Shepard unless the second squadmate is dead.

[kglaser]

To be fair for a sec, it makes sense that Garrus is more trustworthy: he's been around since the first game, so we knew him from before. We'd only just met Miranda. (Just playing Devil's Advocate here.)

[Giggles_Manically]

I always have Garrus doing the fire team leader and being at the hold the line segment.



He makes the best sense to be a leader to me.

[kglaser]

Not only does he make the most sense, he proves to be the best choice solely from his reaction: his feedback over the com sounds not only triumphant, but almost gleeful. My Shepard is always jealous she isn't with him. XD

[Jackalope]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Does anybody else renegade Garrus in ME1 and paragon him in ME2? I can't recall anybody else saying they do that. Seems most everybody else does straight up renegade or paragon. Anyone else do it half way?

The reverse actually.  Both my renegade and paragon ME1 Sheps went Paragady on me in ME2.  So the Garrus that I convinced not to shoot the doctor took out Sidonis.  At the time, I hadn't heard anything about the loyalty mission...and I just couldn't let the jerk that upset my Shepard's potential BF get away with it.

It's actually quite interesting.  The Lazarus project made my good Shep go bad, and my bad Shep turn good.

[Kim Shepard]

Some of my Shepards will choose Miranda as team leader. For those who don't trust Cerberus, choosing Miranda probably wouldn't make sense unless the Shepard knows her well enough, and a lot of Shepards who dislike Cerberus wouldn't give her that chance. In MainShep's case, all trust was lost when Miranda said she wanted to put a control chip in her brain. EvilShep will choose Miranda as team leader at least once, but he does trust Garrus - he just wants Garrus by his side in battle. (He'll probably choose Miranda first and Garrus second. Looking worried about Miranda getting shot just wouldn't fit him. Garrus is the teammate who will always follow him, and losing someone who's loyal no matter what would be a huge setback.)