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[Jackalope]

Alexine wrote...

Maybe there is a turian way to say "I love you"? XD

"That day, Shepard was amazed to discover that when Garrus was saying "I'm here if you need me", what he meant was, "I love you." And even more amazing was the day she realized she truly loved him back."

[Nilfalasiel]

Yeah, I'm also of the opinion that Garrus wouldn't say it easily, if at all. But he might imply it, and definitely express it through his actions.

And I'd probably prefer it that way. I don't think my MainShep would need to hear it either: it would be understood.

As for the others? ThaneShep would probably be somewhat similar. MaleShep and KaidanShep would probably be the kind to say it and want to hear it (which is easy, because I think both Kaidan and Tali are the kind to say the words).

[Collider]

I agree with Nilf. Garrus isn't really open with his feelings unless something can be done about it - like Sidonis or Saleon - something where there's an easy resolution. Love is more complicated than sniping someone.

I get the impression that Garrus never really had a significant other before - of course, not because he can't, but it simply has not happened. Couple that with the fact that he was surprised F!Shepard would even like him. Since the relationship has just developed past "stress release," I think Garrus would be hesitant of saying those three words so as to not appear as rushing the relationship - or making the relationship something that F!Shepard may not want it to be. So Garrus' "I love you," may not be phrased that way verbatim. It will be shown in a different way, perhaps not even in words.

I think Tali's more emotionally expressive, and I believe after the romance in ME2 with her she'd be open enough to say something like that, after she knows that the relationship is the real deal.

Modifié par Collider, 03 août 2010 - 11:02 .

[Collider]

Garrus' "I love you" may be something like, as previous mentioned, "I'll always stick by you Shepard" - something to further indicate that Garrus is going to be there by her side. Or something done in battle, of course, with the whole battle couple thing going on. You could say both of those things are even better than Garrus just saying the three words.

[Collider]

Heh, walked into that one.

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But yes, I agree. Likewise I thing femshep would say little for fear of freaking the poor guy out. The only way I could maybe see it is way towards the end of ME3 if even then.

Interesting. I would say that in general, Shepard isn't the most expressive or emotional person out there. I wonder if we'd even be able to say "love" to the romance interests in ME3. Certainly, if it's the three words verbatim, they have to do it right or else it's going to misfire.

[Collider]

I'll also add "you're the best thing to ever happen to me" etc as another possible way. Basically because Garrus' life has recently been nightmarish - you know the whole "just one thing go right" thing. Also, I'm sure fighting alongside someone as capable as Shepard, righting wrongs, getting things done right, knowing the big picture, and saving the galaxy is a one in a lifetime thing.

[Nilfalasiel]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Yea, I can just see the slack-jawed faces on people who hit "you mean a lot to me" on the dialog wheel and get "I LOVE YOU! I'VE ALWAYS LOVED YOU!" That would not go over well.

I imagine people would have the same kind of reaction as with the 3-response traps in ME1.

The thing with Garrus and Shep, however, is that I think they can potentially confuse each other. I mean nobody ever says anything much more serious than "blowing off steam" and I don't think Garrus is sentimental or comfortable enough to push for more than that. Only femshep is and until femshep makes her intentions rather plain, I think the poor guy could very confused. Possibly wanting to do more but unwilling to risk it for fear of looking pushy or clingy. Does that make sense? That doesn't have to involve an "I love you." But I think Shep might have him worried about appearing anything too much more than casual. Now the romance scene arguably undoes a lot of that, but most of that is in subtext and open to interpreting about four hundred ways. We have nothing definitive that can't be argued with. Maybe it is best that way. Maybe the openness and the vagueness is the very thing that makes this romance viable. I like that about it but at times I get a little frustrated by how much of it really does lie under the surface.

I agree. On the one hand, it's a good thing that a lot remains unspoken: I think it's in character for Garrus and the romance as a whole. But on the other hand, I still see the "well, it was just a fling" argument quite often, and that's annoying, even if I can see proof that it's not a fling.

And as an aside:

Grey Warden eats a Flame Blast.
Grey Warden uses Disengage.
Grey Warden is mobbed by 4 dragonlings and 2 Reavers.
X_X

Thank god for Force Field.
Except when Morrigan somehow decides to target herself with it rather than the Warden.

[Collider]

I imagine people would have the same kind of reaction as with the 3-response traps in ME1.

Yea.

"Of course I'm interested in you Ashley!"

"I still interested!"

"I can't wait to have sex with you Ashley!"



Me: :l

I reloaded at least threee times - no way out.



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I think Dragon Age is too difficult even on casual difficulty. I hope they fix that with DA2.

[Cerrydd]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

On a completely random note, I just managed to get "Sten approves +6" (!) from the conversation in Haven  And I didn't even fight him...

Sten is very easy to get high approval from. The only thing you have to do is show him you're determined and know exactly what to do. A high coercion score for the persuasion checks also helps . I love him.

I also love Garrus.

[PseudoEthnic]

So, have any of you guys tested out the new guns yet? I'm planning on trying them tonight.

[PseudoEthnic]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I'm in the middle of an ME1 playthrough right now so I'm gonna wait until I import that character. I'm kinda "meh" about assault rifles and shotguns anyway.

YOU LIE!
(BTW, I'm doing a ME1 playthrough as well.)

[kglaser]

How many here are doing an ME1 PT? I am, as well.

[ElectricZ]

Pimpin' mah fic... Chapter 5 of "Second", detailing one day on the Normandy when Shepard is off the ship, and the recruits all look to Garrus to handle things when Miranda is left in command.

[kglaser]

Nice, ElectricZ...it's good to see Garrus getting along ok with Jacob but not OOC.

[Kim Shepard]

I think a "you're the best thing that ever happened to me" or "I'll always stand by you" would work really well for Garrus. He probably would hesitate to say something like "I love you" to Shepard, since he might not know if she feels the same way (even though I'm sure most of our Shepards do). My MainShep wouldn't be the type who's shy about saying it... not at all. MaleShep who's with Tali is the type who would only say it if he's really serious about a relationship - and he's had a lot of relationships, but none of them were serious. I could see him saying it to Tali.

Collider wrote...

I imagine people would have the same kind of reaction as with the 3-response traps in ME1.

Yea.
"Of course I'm interested in you Ashley!"
"I still interested!"
"I can't wait to have sex with you Ashley!"

Me: :l
I reloaded at least threee times - no way out.

Same for me, except with Liara. My reaction went something like this -  ...  ...

I think Dragon Age is too difficult even on casual difficulty. I hope they fix that with DA2.

Good to know I'm not the only one who has trouble with Dragon Age. I still have to check out a strategy in my current playthrough to see if it works.

@kglaser: You know I'm in the middle of a ME1 replay. xD

[Sialater]

Just want to say Kaidan doesn't say those words till Horizon and then it's in the past tense.

Put me in the, "As you wish," camp for Garrus and Shep.

Modifié par Sialater, 04 août 2010 - 01:02 .

[Kim Shepard]

I don't have all of BioWare's games, but aren't most of them fantasy like Dragon Age? Maybe because Shepard's a soldier, they don't think it sounds very "professional"? I really don't know. The "I love you" would fit for some Mass Effect characters but not all of them, and explaining why they don't say it wouldn't fit well either, at least not before ME3. Maybe that's the reason.