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Hyrule_Gal wrote...

J4N3_M3 wrote...

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

My mainshep is a colonist/ War hero and an inflitraitor . She is also a paragon turned paragade in ME2.

Neat story I did just for her to explain the transition *ahem*

When saved during Mindoir, instead of using that experience as a reason to be vengeful, my Shepard wanted to be just like those soldiers so she could save others and make a difference. They saw importance in her life even though she was just some colony kid that didn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Shepard makes a point to never to forget the little people which explains why she gladly stops to help strangers all the time. It’s also why she argues so strongly with Garrus in the beginning because he spoke of bystanders as if they were just numbers to him. Despite this strong belief, something happened that challenged her most important philosophy during "Bring down the sky". Shepard promised herself that she wouldn't let what happened on Mindoir ever cloud her judgement, but Balak was the most evil baterian she had ever encountered and no doubt was responsible for lots of human enslavement and deaths.

In the moment she had to choose, she was filled with so much hate that his death was immediately more important than the life of those 3 scientists. She leaves him wounded for reinforcements but the result is horribly bittersweet, Shepard isn't the same afterwards as she can’t forgive herself for what she did.

After she is brought back, it's obvious that's she's a bit more vengeful and has a lot more contempt for criminals than she originally did . It explains why she behaves so differently in ME2 (more likely to say and do renegade things) she seems to have “wised up” to how the most of the Galaxy works at that point, it’s not a nice place and you can’t be the nice guy all the time. ME2, for me, was all about my mainshep slowly regaining her past idealism, by stopping Garrus from killing Sidonis, stopping Miranda, Mordin etc. She has to live with horrible regret so she doesn’t want her team mates to do the same.

Ok I’ll stop now, sorry, I love inventing stories, it’s so much fun!


For Kara, the events on Mindoir have been her fuel to make a change in the galaxy. For the better. But after the Alliance turned their back on her, she finds herself more vulnerable than ever. She is alone, for the first time in years and she hates the feeling. She's always been wary around Batarians but never allowed herself to actually hate them. In Me2 her emotional chaos can't stop her from turning into a Batarian racist. She finds herself more than once considering certain things and it all just adds to everything.

Yet, she starts to like the whole having her own ship thing with no regulations from doing her job.



 
Yeah that's why I love going to Omega first, its where she acts most renegade, it's also the place that has the most Baterian confrontation. Shepard gets to threaten the ones at the entrance to afterlife, smart talk the one that calls her a stripper, get revenge on the one that poisons her, electrocute cafka not to mention being able to kill the ones that hold Mordin's assistant hostage. Despite all this My Mainshep still helps the sick one in Mordin's recruitment only because he isn't a criminal, she makes a point that she can see the difference between a Baterian and a criminal buts is extremely difficult considering their reputation and attitude.


Kara let's the Batarians who captured Daniel leave but she considered killing them and it confused the hell out of her. she's a woman of her word and has never killed for pure revenge or fun. The fact, that she is tempted to pull the trigger, scares her. i am reworking that chapter at the moment because I've always felt it doesn't translate this well enough.

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Happy belated b-day, Buggirl! Posted Image

Considering I always clear all the available sidequests in ME1 as soon as I get my entire team (ie. go to Therum after getting off the Citadel), I have never had any trouble whatsoever on either Feros or Noveria on Normal. It might have been a little hairier than usual on Insanity, but my latest run with my ThaneShep was just laughable. I didn't even bother switching out ammo. By contrast, something like the Antibaar outpost during Geth Incursions (the one on the snowy planet which has a Geth Colossus, snipers, rocket launchers, 2 Geth Primes, etc.) was harder than any battle from Feros onwards.
 
Speaking of ammo, I just stick to Tungsten/Shredder (and their lower tier counterparts). It makes a bit of difference early on, but at the later stages, it just really doesn't matter, so I don't bother with it anymore. I never use any of the fancy ammo like Incendiary, Cryo, etc.

By contrast, ME2's difficulty is more uniform, so you do actually need to use your powers a lot more consistently. My ME1 Infiltrator ended up like a Soldier clone: her additional weapon was an Assault Rifle, and that's pretty much all she ever used, unless sniping turrets or Geth Colossi before Kaidan's Lift was high-level enough. 90% of the time, I forgot I even had tech mines.

As for Garrus, I actually keep him on Sniper Rifle most of the time in both games (it's a lot more user-friendly on squaddies in ME1, too). The only time I switch him to Assault is in really close quarters. It is annoying that he defaults to Assault in ME2 though, I can't quite understand why they did it, since, y'know, he's a sniper...

Future for Garrus? Romanced: being the lawful equivalent of Bonnie & Clyde all over the galaxy. Non-romanced: being the lawful and platonic equivalent of Bonnie & Clyde all over the galaxy. No, seriously, he's very welcome to continue as a team with Shepard, and I think he'd do just that. He's perfectly capable of doing things on his own and successfully so, but I think that he's got to a point where he's simply too terminally jaded with protocol and authority to bother with any kind of official job. Especially within the turian hierarchy. As for becoming a Spectre, after how the Council behaves in ME2, I don't think even Shep cares about being a Spectre anymore. I don't see Garrus giving as much of a damn about it as he did in ME1 either.

EDIT: Well, if we're listing Sheps...I have four so far, all mostly Paragon. I don't think I'll be making any more (unless I get bored and try to make a MaleShep for Jack somewhere down the line):

Iris (Colonist/War Hero): Two words: she deals. Doesn't matter how, she just does, even if things are sometimes imperfectly patched up. This makes her very reasonable (as in, prone to use her head first and foremost) and reluctant to show her emotional side. Goes for Garrus because he's both very different (uses his heart, is impulsive) and very similar to her (tries to shelve his personal issues away as best he can) at the same time.

Lily (Colonist/War Hero): The most emotionally adjusted of the lot, but also the least bothered by protocol for protocol's sake. She allows herself to react as she feels (on her own time, of course) and follows rules because they make sense to her. Goes for Kaidan because she appreciates his level-headedness and his honesty, but also because he's not quite as at peace with himself as he would like, which intrigues her.

Helen (Earthborn/War Hero): Still a little rough on the edges from her gang background, but it also makes her a staunch believer in second chances. She knows just how lucky she was to get off the streets, so she does her best not to screw up her own second chance, hence the War Hero status (little does she know she's getting a third chance too). Goes for Thane because she's sympathetic to his own attempt at a second chance.

Peter (Spacer/Sole Survivor): Ironically enough, the most sensitive one of the bunch, because of the combo of a caring mother (father KIA) and a traumatizing experience on Akuze. He's very sympathetic to other people's suffering, because he can relate and knows that a little compassion can go a long way (he's such a sap, ain't he?). Goes for Tali because her sincerity and her plight move him.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 05 août 2010 - 10:02 .


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Hah, Nil, it seems like we have a common trend of simple old school names going with our Sheps. I have a major character in a story of mine called Iris.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Hah, Nil, it seems like we have a common trend of simple old school names going with our Sheps. I have a major character in a story of mine called Iris.


Posted Image I save the fancy names for DA:O. I realized that two of my FemSheps were named after flowers and had half a mind to continue the trend...But I wouldn't have been able to take Rose, Dahlia, Violet or Jasmine Shepard with a straight face. Especially Rose (baaaaaaaad MGS2 memories). So the last one got named Helen.

Although Hyacinth Shepard would probably have been worst of all. Posted Image

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Thanks Nil! I'm lurking playing with the new iPad. Interesting hearing about everyones Sheps. I love how we can surround them with stories that resonate personally with us. I have only have 3 Sheps



Nancy pure paragon colonist sole survivor - heart of gold, believes in diplomacy all the way, fighting is a last resort, is still true to the Alliance, total bleeding heart, thinks she can save everyone. Never had a love interest in ME1 but has fallen for Thane, his tale of redemption touches her soul.



Aeryn paragade spacer war hero - little unsure where her allegiances lie but is faithful to those who are loyal. Was lover to Kaidan and now has sought solace with her best friend Garrus.



Vincent renegade earthborn sole survivor complete and utter bastard. Is loyal to no one but realizes the need to get the job done. Has slept with everyone. No ME1 love interest loyalty.

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Good Morning!

I see we're discussing our Sheps?

Meghan Shepard:  Vanguard, Earthborn, Sole Survivor.  Hates Cerberus with a white-hot passion, but stifles it for the greater good.  Felt betrayed by Kaidan (mostly because in her experience a fight means breakup) and sought comfort in the arms of her best friend.  Has very little social graces, but can at least immitate them without understanding what they mean.  She's a paragrade, but more because she lets her temper run away with her rather than a moral stance.  She tries to be good because she feels she needs to atone for her past and make the death of her unit count for something, but sometimes, a merc just needs to be kicked out a window.

Avery Shepard:  Adept, Colonist, War Hero. Also hates Cerberus, but is driven to defend the colonists against the fate Mindoir suffered.  She's a paragon because she's driven to be the best she can be to atone for her parents' and siblings' deaths.  Had an older brother who died in the raid, also, and a younger sister taken by slavers (Liara reminds her of her sister).  Blames herself for her family's death, even after all this time.  She hates being a famous War Hero, it's only more pressure to be the perfect soldier.  Garrus is her best friend and since she's not over Kaidan, she leaves Garrus unromanced. 

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Kim Shepard wrote...

Also the DLC decisions she doesn't get in-game, she would have gladly helped Zaeed with his revenge and let the Overlord project continue because her relationship with TIM is based on favors like that.


Your mainShep should seek professional help. Simply thinking of Overlord DLC makes me a sad panda.

Regarding the batarians who have Daniel on Omega, What Would Garrus Do? Make a deal (Daniel lives, batarians live), break the deal (Daniel lives, batarians eventually die) or shoot at first sight?

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I don't think Garrus would break a deal he's made.

I think that it would depend on if you Paragoned or Renegaded him. Paragon Garrus would let them go, Renegade Garrus would kill them on first sight.

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I still haven’t decided which one I consider my MainShep. And yes, I do need to try out a new class someday. 


Navarra Shepard (Soldier, Spacer, Ruthless) – Renegon. She largely believes the ends justify the means, but is not completely heartless. Romanced Kaidan in ME1 and cared about him, but wanted to keep it casual. Horizon was definitely a deal-breaker for her. She always had a harmless crush on Garrus, which blossomed into something more once she realized that he was her rock. And all the time she spends with Kasumi can be equally attributed to her growing friendship with the thief, and the location of the Normandy bar.
 
Cybill Shepard* (Soldier, Earthborn, Sole Survivor) – Paragade. She tries to do the right thing, but isn’t above “cutting corners” every once in awhile.   Due to numerous trust issues, she’d been single for a long time (aside from casual flings here and there), but fell in love with Thane. Her strong feelings for him scare her more than the likelihood that she will lose him to his illness. 
 
Mel Shepard (Soldier, Spacer, War Hero) – Paragon and Alliance to the core. Happily took Garrus under her wing in ME1 and views him as her most trusted friend in ME2. Romanced Kaidan in ME1, and even though his words on Horizon pissed her off, she stayed loyal to him. 
 
 
 
*Yes, that was intentional. 

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For those of you who are following Shordin's exploits in the fabulous galaxy of ME2:



Mordin hits on Miranda.



This is the second romance conversation, so no kiss. However, it does have the Sheploo Smile and "Who said anything about love? I'm just trying to get you into bed."

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Mordin's just doing science on Miranda's scientifically implausible engineered body.

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I don't have a "MainShep" either, Goff. Both Meghan and Avery are important to me.

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Renegade Garrus may shoot the Batarians down outright - similar to what he did at Michel's clinic in ME1. Paragon Garrus might use the intimidate option, but let them go after. Neutral might also use the intimidate option, but perhaps would make sure Daniel stays in the room, close said room, and then shoot down the Batarians, with the excuse that he did let them leave...for a few seconds. Just my two cents and my interpretation.

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Sialater wrote...

I don't have a "MainShep" either, Goff. Both Meghan and Avery are important to me.


Kara is for some reason growing more and more important to me as well. I consider her equal to Shayenne. Weird! Never thought, that would happen lol.

Playing dudeshep right now anway xD 

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I have a third (or 12th, depending on if you count the RROD'ed ones) Shepard in the works, she's meant to be single in ME1. I'm having a hard time getting into Rachel's head, though.

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 My Main Shepherd will always be my    Male Shepherd 

Nathaniel  Shephard -  (Earthborn, Sole Survivor,  Paragon, Vanguard )   Grew up in the worst possible of the lives ran the streets on earth.  Sold drugs, slaves,  you name he did it and he regrets it .  In a gun fight with a rival gang a little girl was killed by on his stray shots, that day changed his life.  He joined the Alliance  enrolled in the Vanguard training program and never looked back.   His relationship with  Garrus is the true "Bromance" to the fullest. If something is blowing up  he and  Garrus are mostly likely in the middle of it. Something to makes Tali wonder where she wants to shot them or hug em.   Nathaniel  has very samurai  like way of the looking that world, a strong sense of honor that had been  instilled him by this  Biotic  Master in training. He  will always put  other in front himself. Taking the pain so his, crew and family won't. He has a bit of a Messiah Complex  thinking the he must carry  others burdens and his as well. 

My  Fem Shep    Roselyn Shepard - (Earthborn, Sole Survivor, Paragon, Solider)  I swear her and Ashely could have been cut from the mold. They are sisters in the greatest since, tough, hot headed, smart, sexy.   Can charm your pants and knock you senseless in the same  breathe.  Garrus drives  her crazy and she always slapping him on the back head  for reasons he  can't understand.  He worries her to death and she doesn't deal with emotions open rather well.  Wrex is  the big her big brother she never had and she has no qualms  hugging the big lug in front of the all the Krogan. She is a fun loving gal with a wicked sense of humor and strong sense of family.  A free spirit she  attracted to both men and women doesn't bother her what people think, she is who she is and thats all.   Behind her  exterior is  tortured soul that was once a slave back on earth. She buries her  pain, either ignoring it or finding other ways to numb it.    She loves Garrus but she feels she is just to broken to be any good for him. 

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I can't bring myself to play a maleShep. But then, my husband can't bring himself to play a femShep, so we just watch each others' games.

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Hugging Wrex? Posted Image She's suicidal a braver woman than I...

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Sialater wrote...

I can't bring myself to play a maleShep.



I created a DudeShep in ME1 ages ago, and never left Eden Prime.  Posted Image

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Nilfalasiel wrote...

Hugging Wrex? Posted Image She's suicidal a braver woman than I...

 

What oh she knows Wrex is  big softy under all the  ruff Korgan  shell.   Plus  she just has away with people. 

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Another Shordin vid:



Miranda's first romance conversation.



It's funny to hear Miranda say "Because I still envy the time Mordin spent with the Special Tasks Group." when he's sitting right next to her.

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Lol, Xsause Posted Image

So I just had a random thought.

I just got through the conversation with Vigil on Ilos, and something struck me as odd. It says that, when the Prothean scientists that survived on Ilos sent a message through the beacons, they didn't know about indoctrination yet, so they had no idea that a servant of Sovereign could also use the beacons. And yet, when you first arrive, Vigil says that it doesn't sense the taint of indoctrination about you.

But it's a VI. If the people who made it didn't know about indoctrination, then how could it find out? Posted Image

I sense a plothole bunny.

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Never liked the Vigil event. Way too Deus Ex Machina.

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Collider wrote...

similar to what he did at Michel's clinic in ME1.


Yeah, that's pretty much why I asked ^^. It's a similar situation, only there are more baddies in the room on Omega. I agree that I think it depends on paragon/renegade Garrus. Especially after Saleon, either trying to bargain or shoot him as soon as you see him.

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Collider wrote...

Never liked the Vigil event. Way too Deus Ex Machina.


The Plothole Bunnies have invaded space!

On a different note, Garrus just one-shotted a geth heavy turret. Posted Image

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 05 août 2010 - 07:13 .