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[Cerrydd]

ciaweth wrote...

*snip*

Gimme a sisfist! I'll just wait to see what happens. I expect nothing. It keeps disappointment far away. In the meantime I'll just keep spraying optimism.

Lelianna DLC... crapIdon'twanttolistentohervoiceagain...

[Bhatair]

+1 for a Garrus on Omega DLC XD

[Kim Shepard]

Bhatair wrote...

Kim Shepard wrote...

I didn't realize Jacob had that much extra romance content... 3-4 kisses? Really? I thought Miranda only got one.

And Shepard can say how she's feeling five different ways? There needs to be more of this, not just for Jacob. I liked how Kaidan asked how my Shepards dealt with the deaths from their service history after Virmire. Is it just a romance conversation, or is it available for MaleSheps too? I guess it would be out of character for some squadmates to ask... but I have at least one Shepard who would tell Jacob "It's none of your buisness" and give a different answer to Garrus.

Male sheps get that convo with Kaidan too.

Yeah, I remember that. I just played through most of ME1 with a MaleShep. I was asking for Jacob. MaleShep didn't make it to ME2 yet and I mostly avoided him with FemShep.

[Bhatair]

Then I guess the conversation with Jacob you're talking about doesn't happen male Sheps, since I have no clue what it is XD

[Kim Shepard]

This conversation.

Collider wrote...

In Jacob's romance, Shepard can say that she
)has survivor guilt
)is burdened by the weight of command
)she's lonely
)she has no baggage
)it's not Jacob's business

And by finding it again, I answered my own question. xD It's romance-only.

[Bhatair]

Do'h! >.<

[Brass_Buckles]

You know how in Dragon Age the squad members will respond differently to you in their banter and combat comments depending on their relationship to your particular Warden? Like Alistair will say, "My love!" when you give him an order?



Yeah. I want to see that in ME3. Although I don't really see Garrus shouting out, "My love!" That would just be weird coming from Garrus. But maybe some kind of banter that refers to the relationship, even if it's with the rest of the crew and not Shepard. For instance, Shepard could ask if Garrus were being too slow to fire on an enemy, "What are you doing? Savoring the last shot?" And Garrus could answer something like, "Only with you, Shepard." (Cheesy but I can see it happening, and maybe any other squadmates being varying degrees of uncomfortable with it!)

[ciaweth]

Cerrydd wrote...

ciaweth wrote...

*snip*

Gimme a sisfist! I'll just wait to see what happens. I expect nothing. It keeps disappointment far away. In the meantime I'll just keep spraying optimism.

Lelianna DLC... crapIdon'twanttolistentohervoiceagain...

*sisfist*

I think I'm getting the Leliana DLC.  If I do, I'll let you know how it goes. 

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Don't worry guys, we could always replace the lack of garrus bantar with fanfic.



=/



Bioware, why have you forsaken us?

[Twilight_Princess]

Brass_Buckles wrote...

You know how in Dragon Age the squad members will respond differently to you in their banter and combat comments depending on their relationship to your particular Warden? Like Alistair will say, "My love!" when you give him an order?

Yeah. I want to see that in ME3. Although I don't really see Garrus shouting out, "My love!" That would just be weird coming from Garrus. But maybe some kind of banter that refers to the relationship, even if it's with the rest of the crew and not Shepard. For instance, Shepard could ask if Garrus were being too slow to fire on an enemy, "What are you doing? Savoring the last shot?" And Garrus could answer something like, "Only with you, Shepard." (Cheesy but I can see it happening, and maybe any other squadmates being varying degrees of uncomfortable with it!)

I'd love that too, the hospital banter is a perfect example of how it could be done. Also, for people who liked Alistair the best in DA, is it fair to say that they are the people most likely to pick Garrus in Mass effect? Garrus is funny, bumbling, a virgin (in the interspecies sense) and wants the moment to be perfect with you, you both start out as friends and he is the second banana to your main character as well as your best bro even if you don't romance him.

[silentstephi]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Brass_Buckles wrote...

You know how in Dragon Age the squad members will respond differently to you in their banter and combat comments depending on their relationship to your particular Warden? Like Alistair will say, "My love!" when you give him an order?

Yeah. I want to see that in ME3. Although I don't really see Garrus shouting out, "My love!" That would just be weird coming from Garrus. But maybe some kind of banter that refers to the relationship, even if it's with the rest of the crew and not Shepard. For instance, Shepard could ask if Garrus were being too slow to fire on an enemy, "What are you doing? Savoring the last shot?" And Garrus could answer something like, "Only with you, Shepard." (Cheesy but I can see it happening, and maybe any other squadmates being varying degrees of uncomfortable with it!)

I'd love that too, the hospital banter is a perfect example of how it could be done. Also, for people who liked Alistair the best in DA, is it fair to say that they are the people most likely to pick Garrus in Mass effect? Garrus is funny, bumbling, a virgin (in the interspecies sense) and wants the moment to be perfect with you, you both start out as friends and he is the second banana to your main character as well as your best bro even if you don't romance him.

I'll be quite frank:  Virginity never came into the mix for me.
I liked Al, mainly because he was delicisously snarky, and easy on the eyes.  The fact that he turned out a virgin was a bit... odd, but I rolled with it.
Garrus doesn't have that quality.  He uses the interspeices discussion as something to focus on the bigger issue:  feelings.  He's a clever inflitrator, trying to stealth that.  But... yea.  Never thought of him as viriginal. XD

PS:  I am also dying at the second banana comment.
DYING.

[Twilight_Princess]

silentstephi wrote...

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Brass_Buckles wrote...

You know how in Dragon Age the squad members will respond differently to you in their banter and combat comments depending on their relationship to your particular Warden? Like Alistair will say, "My love!" when you give him an order?

Yeah. I want to see that in ME3. Although I don't really see Garrus shouting out, "My love!" That would just be weird coming from Garrus. But maybe some kind of banter that refers to the relationship, even if it's with the rest of the crew and not Shepard. For instance, Shepard could ask if Garrus were being too slow to fire on an enemy, "What are you doing? Savoring the last shot?" And Garrus could answer something like, "Only with you, Shepard." (Cheesy but I can see it happening, and maybe any other squadmates being varying degrees of uncomfortable with it!)

I'd love that too, the hospital banter is a perfect example of how it could be done. Also, for people who liked Alistair the best in DA, is it fair to say that they are the people most likely to pick Garrus in Mass effect? Garrus is funny, bumbling, a virgin (in the interspecies sense) and wants the moment to be perfect with you, you both start out as friends and he is the second banana to your main character as well as your best bro even if you don't romance him.

I'll be quite frank:  Virginity never came into the mix for me.
I liked Al, mainly because he was delicisously snarky, and easy on the eyes.  The fact that he turned out a virgin was a bit... odd, but I rolled with it.
Garrus doesn't have that quality.  He uses the interspeices discussion as something to focus on the bigger issue:  feelings.  He's a clever inflitrator, trying to stealth that.  But... yea.  Never thought of him as viriginal. XD

PS:  I am also dying at the second banana comment.
DYING.

Yeah the virgin thing didn't matter to me either ,  I was just making comparisons between the two of them Oh and "snarky" yes they are both very snarky forgot to add that.

[Cerrydd]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

...the second banana...

I never saw it coming.

edit: w00t new banner

Modifié par Cerrydd, 30 juin 2010 - 09:10 .

[silentstephi]

Ahahahhaha Cerr. Win on the new banner XD

[Brass_Buckles]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Brass_Buckles wrote...

You know how in Dragon Age the squad members will respond differently to you in their banter and combat comments depending on their relationship to your particular Warden? Like Alistair will say, "My love!" when you give him an order?

Yeah. I want to see that in ME3. Although I don't really see Garrus shouting out, "My love!" That would just be weird coming from Garrus. But maybe some kind of banter that refers to the relationship, even if it's with the rest of the crew and not Shepard. For instance, Shepard could ask if Garrus were being too slow to fire on an enemy, "What are you doing? Savoring the last shot?" And Garrus could answer something like, "Only with you, Shepard." (Cheesy but I can see it happening, and maybe any other squadmates being varying degrees of uncomfortable with it!)

I'd love that too, the hospital banter is a perfect example of how it could be done. Also, for people who liked Alistair the best in DA, is it fair to say that they are the people most likely to pick Garrus in Mass effect? Garrus is funny, bumbling, a virgin (in the interspecies sense) and wants the moment to be perfect with you, you both start out as friends and he is the second banana to your main character as well as your best bro even if you don't romance him.

One thing Garrus definitely has over Alistair?  Intelligence.  Alistair doesn't strike me as being too bright.

Another thing Garrus has over Alistair?  Hygiene.

Don't get me wrong, I thought Alistair was adorable.  But even though he is definitely more physically attractive than Garrus, there's still something about Garrus I like a lot more.

And yes, I too am amused by Garrus's efforts to sneak relationship talk in there.  Because you know he's afraid to actually bring it out into the open that he wants Shepard to be his girlfriend, not just his friend with benefits. She's never said anything about wanting more, so what if he's reading the situation wrong?  After all, if he's had sex for the sake of sex before, maybe she would too and just feels more comfortable if it's with a friend.  But he decides to test the waters a little anyway.

I just hope that in ME3, we aren't forced to lose the ME2 romance if we ditched the ME1 romance.  I kind of feel bad for having my main Shep ditch Kaidan, even though Kaidan was a jerk on Horizon.  I suspect that his email was meant to let players know that he'd failed in his efforts to move on after FemShep, even though he doesn't seem to feel very guilty about his attitude on Horizon.  Plus, for Shepard, it really hasn't been two years.  So I guess while that makes the Horizon thing that much worse for her, it also means she's that much closer to the ME1 romance.  Still, I liked Garrus really well in ME1.  I'm not sure I'd have romanced him over Kaidan if the option had been there, but I liked him.  I have no plans for my main Shepard to go back to Kaidan in ME3.  I want her to be with Garrus.  I just worry that Bioware will screw us over in that regard because we "cheated."  Nevermind that Shepard wasn't married to his/her ME1 LI and that there is a sense of betrayal from Kaidan or Ashley.

I know the devs have talked about consequences, and I know that we're supposed to be rewarded if our Shepard is loyal.  And I do plan to have a loyal Shepard (possibly Celeste, who's intended to be the Perfect Paragon, although I also want a mainly-paragon Shep who'll fully paragon Garrus and stay perfectly loyal to him--I already know my renegade Erica's most likely going to chase him (probably right after she gets disgusted with Jacob)--and some characters to be with Liara, Thane, Jack, Miranda, Tali, and yes even Jacob).  I'm not sure what kind of "consequences" there can be in a negative sense besides alienating Kaidan (possibly resulting in his death and/or Shepard's in ME3) or losing both characters as LIs (or their loyalty in general).  As for rewards for your loyalty?  Well everyone surviving and being able to marry your ME1 LI would be a nice start, although I don't believe asari do marriage if you romanced her.

I'm kind of hoping there will also be some manner of reward for sticking with your ME2 LI.  And maybe there should be an equally good reward for characters who failed to romance anyone in ME1, but then romanced Garrus or Tali in ME2, because isn't that also potentially being loyal if you've played your Shep as having a crush on that character from the start?

But yeah.  Back on the banter:  I want squad banter.  I want more background ship banter.  I want the characters' conversations and banter with Shepard to change based on their relationship with her.  Again, if Garrus takes too long before making a kill (which I haven't known him to do) you might have Shepard make a quip about it.  Or if you take him someplace nice finally in ME3 (say there's a garden or antique shop that needs fighting through and you bring him along), a Shepard who's romancing him could say something like, "Shepard, remind me to show you my gratitude when we get back to the Normandy.  This is the best date I've ever been on."  A Shep who didn't try to romance him (if female) might have Garrus comment, "Wow, Shepard, you really know how to make me happy.  Wait.  Is this a date?"  (Obviously you wouldn't answer, unless you can also initiate a Garrus-romance in ME3.)  A male Shepard or a female Shepard who friend-zoned him might get, "I told you it'd be fun to fight through a place like this.  Just look at all the expensive stuff we can shoot."  And edited to add, to round it out, a female Shepard who romanced him but then dumped him in the final romance scene might get, "Shepard, if this is your way of apologizing, I appreciate it, but I already understood.  But if you're trying to give that crazy idea another shot, then I really don't think it will work out any better this time.  You were right.  We're better off as friends."

Sadly I know that more banter means a bigger budget, more time for recording, possibly even more voice actors required.  There's a lot working against it.  But I can still want it and hope, right?

Modifié par Brass_Buckles, 30 juin 2010 - 09:53 .

[Sialater]

I, too, am concerned about how they'll handle everything in 3 for both my Sheps. I've gotten really attached to them via the efforts of fanfiction and want them to have a happy ending with whomever they choose. The banter thing would be nice, but I'd prefer them to work on the story more. Plug plot holes big enough to fly Reaper through.

[Nilfalasiel]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Also, for people who liked Alistair the best in DA, is it fair to say that they are the people most likely to pick Garrus in Mass effect?

*looks at sig*

Ok, I know I'm a minority, though. But Garrus was as much self-evident as a choice of LI for my Shep as Zev was for my Warden. The only thing Alistair and Garrus have in common is snark and awkwardness in the romantic department. Although, when it comes to actual feelings, I'd say Zev is even MORE awkward than Al. Al has no trouble saying "I love you" when push comes to shove. Garrus' emotional brokenness and confused morality is also something he shares a lot more with Zev than with Al. Al can also be pretty extreme in questioning the Warden's decisions, despite asking her to lead, something Garrus NEVER does with Shepard.

Brass_Buckles wrote...

You know how in Dragon Age the squad members will respond differently to you in their banter and combat comments depending on their relationship to your particular Warden? Like Alistair will say, "My love!" when you give him an order?

I loved this! When I first heard Zev going "si, amora", I melted a little. But of course, if Garrus did it, it would have to be a lot more subtle/snarky. I actually like the "only with you, Shepard" idea

But yeah, BW did make it really difficult to NOT move on after Horizon for those who had romanced Kaidan/Ashley, didn't they? By comparison, the lines with Liara are a lot more blurry, so it feels a lot more like actual cheating in her case than with the other two.

As for asari and marriage, they do have the concept of bondmates. From what I could tell by the various occurrences of it on Illium, it sounds pretty much like marriage.

@ Cerrydd: That banner is pure win!

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 30 juin 2010 - 10:35 .

[Brass_Buckles]

Sialater wrote...

I, too, am concerned about how they'll handle everything in 3 for both my Sheps. I've gotten really attached to them via the efforts of fanfiction and want them to have a happy ending with whomever they choose. The banter thing would be nice, but I'd prefer them to work on the story more. Plug plot holes big enough to fly Reaper through.

This too.

And I know we all chatter about the romances a lot, but I want to see a good solid ending all-around.  Yeah, I want a good ending to my Sheps' romances regardless who they chose to be with (unless they were just being buttholes and cheating on EVERYone or something, and I may make a Shep like that), but defeating the Reapers once and for all is the priority.  I think we'll all be a little peeved if the ME universe has more games and they still have the Reapers as the biggest threat out there because Shepard somehow failed to destroy them all.  Yes I know they intend to make more ME universe games.  I just don't want to always be battling the Reapers when I've already spent two (and by the time ME3 is out, three) games on that.

Even beyond romances and the overall game ending, I want to see what's up with Kaidan, Ashley, and Liara.  I'd like to see Palaven or at least a turian colony world.  I want to know why Garrus no longer talks about Daddy V. and hasn't ever mentioned his mother.  I'd like to know if Wrex's plan succeeds.  I'd like to see Thane cured even though I haven't romanced him.  He's a strange guy and I think he knows he's to blame for his own actions, but he's still overall pretty good and not to mention interesting.  In fact I think it'd be just peachy if we somehow had a hand in getting the Drell their own homeworld in ME3, as well as the quarians getting their homeworld back or sharing it with the geth.  Will Legion betray Shepard or, equally bad, Tali?  Will we get Kaidan/Ashley and/or Liara back in our squad in ME3?  The list goes on and on.

[silentstephi]

/watches as the Drell/Hanar thing gets mentioned... must ... resist... WoT....



Damn it, Cerr. I now have something to blog about.

/trudges off

[Cerrydd]

silentstephi wrote...

/watches as the Drell/Hanar thing gets mentioned... must ... resist... WoT....

Damn it, Cerr. I now have something to blog about.
/trudges off

You see drell/hanar getting mentioned and the first person you think of is me? WHY?!



edit: @ Nilf: thanks. I have important stuff to do, so I fired up Photoshop to do something fun instead.

Modifié par Cerrydd, 30 juin 2010 - 10:43 .

[KJandrew]

My shep is male but i just love Garrus and his badass attitude and i wish that in ME3 males could become blood brothers or something with him, just something to make your relationship with him more important or meaningful than other ones. It would also be nice to have another turian on your crew, a veteren soldier, one that's extreamly well disciplined just to show the difference between Garrus' "do his own stuff" way of things and the roman like discipline of the Turian army.

[Nilfalasiel]

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

I can easily see Legion betraying Shepard. It will do whatever it necessary to ensure the immediate survival of the geth collective.

Hmm...I'm not so sure about that one. Legion did show readiness to cooperate with the quarians (if you resolve the Tali dispute) AND that it had some kind of interest in Shepard that it couldn't even explain to itself. I don't think betrayal is all that obvious as an outcome.

[Mentatzoee]

Yeah, Legion (and therefore the geth) were specifically interested in Shepard for a "no data available" reason, even if the excuse was that she had fought the heretics and the "Old Machine" and everything they had in common because of that.



If the Geth are building their own future and they have chosen to intertwine their path with Shepard's there's got to be a good reason.

[ciaweth]

KJandrew wrote...

My shep is male but i just love Garrus and his badass attitude and i wish that in ME3 males could become blood brothers or something with him, just something to make your relationship with him more important or meaningful than other ones. It would also be nice to have another turian on your crew, a veteren soldier, one that's extreamly well disciplined just to show the difference between Garrus' "do his own stuff" way of things and the roman like discipline of the Turian army.

I quite agree.  I'd love to see a "good" turian in the game, just for kicks.