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[ThatDancingTurian]

Dancing turian is gaining a following. Total win.

[Kim Shepard]

And because the they specifically mention Ilos. But I agree, I think it means a lot more than "because some of the lines wouldn't make sense." Garrus needs to have that respect for Shepard if he's even going to consider a human, and even though he does sort of idolize her, that respect wouldn't be there if she left him behind on the Citadel. (Unfortunately, it also means people who only bought ME2 can't have the Garrus romance. They'll just have to buy ME1 then.)

Edit: Awesome picture! He became popular really fast. Does he really have tattoos like that? I can never see them.

Modifié par Kim Shepard, 12 août 2010 - 05:47 .

[M.S. Rose]

That's so sweet. I love it!

[ThatDancingTurian]

Kim Shepard wrote...

And because the they specifically mention Ilos. But I agree, I think it means a lot more than "because some of the lines wouldn't make sense." Garrus needs to have that respect for Shepard if he's even going to consider a human, and even though he does sort of idolize her, that respect wouldn't be there if she left him behind on the Citadel. (Unfortunately, it also means people who only bought ME2 can't have the Garrus romance. They'll just have to buy ME1 then.)

Edit: Awesome picture! He became popular really fast. Does he really have tattoos like that? I can never see them.

Hmm.. That may not be true, because that would mean the default story in ME2 is not picking up Garrus, and I don't think that's the case. Only people who imported games where they never picked him up wouldn't be able to try the romance, and that's a very small percentage.

Actually, he has the white face tattoo that Wilihierax and the 'You humans are all racist!' turian have, according to this flycam screenshot that RiotLaFontaine took (I cropped it and neutralized some of the blue tint from the lighting).



EDIT: After hearing Wilihierax's cut dialogue where he vehemently denies that turians dance, I firmly believe that they are one in the same and he's got a secret passion for dancing.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 12 août 2010 - 05:52 .

[Twilight_Princess]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Okay, I know they probably took out the romance for Garrus because he references things like her being his only friend, him being someone she can trust, etc... But to me it's also solid proof that the relationship means more than it sounds like it does at first glance. If all Garrus and Shepard needed was to 'blow off steam', they'd do it regardless. What they have is clearly not a cheap fling, even if they talk about it like it is at first.

You know what, I have never brought this very important point up when I have debates about whether or not the Garrus romance was a fling. Ok, if it was JUST about sex, why can't a non-recruited Garrus be romanced then? I swear, I get really annoyed when people compare this romance to Jacob's. Jacob's for crying out loud. Yet these are usually the SAME people who ALSO say;

"Well Garrus and Shepard didn't sleep together because it faded to black...but the romance is still a fling"

 ok, WTF? How is that logically possible? I think its because THEY wouldn't ever want to romance Garrus because he's an alien/their bro so they have to downplay the romance as much as they can so they don't feel weirded out.

[JulianP]

Finally a bit of time to check on this thread.  Sorry if I'm interrupting anything.

You guys have probably all seen this, but I just saw this:



It's a working Nerf Garrus-colored Mantis rifle!  Aw, how cute!  I wish I had a bunch of money I could spend experimenting with making and modding one of those.  Although I personally preferred the Viper when I did ME2; who needs a one-shot-kill when you can shoot twice in quick succession?  (But depending on my strategy, I may give the Mantis more time on the next playthough.)  I'm replaying ME1 as an Infiltrator instead of Vanguard, and for me, being able to use the sniper is totally worth the loss of the cool biotics.  Completely changed my combat style, and it's actually not bad at close range if one gets the hang of no-scoping.  No wonder Garrus loves his rifle.  Now if only it were actually possible to Nerf-snipe from 500 meters...

[TSamee]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...



Dancing turian is gaining a following. Total win.

Love this. 100%. The general awesomeness is enhanced by the fact that I have the drawing abilities of a duck.

[ThatDancingTurian]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

You know what, I have never brought this very important point up when I have debates about whether or not the Garrus romance was a fling. Ok, if it was JUST about sex, why can't a non-recruited Garrus be romanced then? I swear, I get really annoyed when people compare this romance to Jacob's. Jacob's for crying out loud. Yet these are usually the SAME people who ALSO say;

"Well Garrus and Shepard didn't sleep together because it faded to black...but the romance is still a fling"

 ok, WTF? How is that logically possible? I think its because THEY wouldn't ever want to romance Garrus because he's an alien/their bro so they have to downplay the romance as much as they can so they don't feel weirded out.

Who would ever make that comparison? I.. They.. My mind is broken. There is no way Garrus' romance is ANYTHING like Jacob's. Jacob is a sleaze out for a trophy. He even throws out 'I love you' in a desperate last attempt if Shep denies him in the cutscene. Jacob is just horny, and Jacob-romancing Shepard is too.

Garrus isn't there because he just needs to get laid and she's convenient, and neither is Shepard. There's nothing convenient about their romance, that's kind of the point.

"Part of me still thinks we're crazy ... but I want to try it with you. I want a few moments that are just for us ..." When he says those lines, what I hear is, "You're special to me, Shepard. I wouldn't do this with anyone else, but it's what I want because it's you."

@JulianP: I want that rifle so bad!! I wish I was handy, I'd make myself a Garrus rifle. <3

[Kim Shepard]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Hmm.. That may not be true, because that would mean the default story in ME2 is not picking up Garrus, and I don't think that's the case. Only people who imported games where they never picked him up wouldn't be able to try the romance, and that's a very small percentage.

That's right... I just read that on the last page. I even included it in my last post. Don't know what I was thinking. xD

Actually, he has the white face tattoo that Wilihierax and the 'You humans are all racist!' turian have, according to this flycam screenshot that RiotLaFontaine took (I cropped it and neutralized some of the blue tint from the lighting).



EDIT: After hearing Wilihierax's cut dialogue where he vehemently denies that turians dance, I firmly believe that they are one in the same and he's got a secret passion for dancing.

Now I see it. Maybe because the tattoo is very light, I can only see it after you removed some of the blue tint. I'm going with the theory that they're the same too. They probably use the same character model, at least.

[Brian619]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Okay, I know they probably took out the romance for Garrus because he references things like her being his only friend, him being someone she can trust, etc... But to me it's also solid proof that the relationship means more than it sounds like it does at first glance. If all Garrus and Shepard needed was to 'blow off steam', they'd do it regardless. What they have is clearly not a cheap fling, even if they talk about it like it is at first.

You know what, I have never brought this very important point up when I have debates about whether or not the Garrus romance was a fling. Ok, if it was JUST about sex, why can't a non-recruited Garrus be romanced then? I swear, I get really annoyed when people compare this romance to Jacob's. Jacob's for crying out loud. Yet these are usually the SAME people who ALSO say;

"Well Garrus and Shepard didn't sleep together because it faded to black...but the romance is still a fling"

 ok, WTF? How is that logically possible? I think its because THEY wouldn't ever want to romance Garrus because he's an alien/their bro so they have to downplay the romance as much as they can so they don't feel weirded out.

Huh? we can't romance Garrus if we didn't import the savedata from ME1 or didn't recruit him in ME1?

Modifié par Brian619, 12 août 2010 - 08:24 .

[Twilight_Princess]

Brian619 wrote...

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Okay, I know they probably took out the romance for Garrus because he references things like her being his only friend, him being someone she can trust, etc... But to me it's also solid proof that the relationship means more than it sounds like it does at first glance. If all Garrus and Shepard needed was to 'blow off steam', they'd do it regardless. What they have is clearly not a cheap fling, even if they talk about it like it is at first.

You know what, I have never brought this very important point up when I have debates about whether or not the Garrus romance was a fling. Ok, if it was JUST about sex, why can't a non-recruited Garrus be romanced then? I swear, I get really annoyed when people compare this romance to Jacob's. Jacob's for crying out loud. Yet these are usually the SAME people who ALSO say;

"Well Garrus and Shepard didn't sleep together because it faded to black...but the romance is still a fling"

 ok, WTF? How is that logically possible? I think its because THEY wouldn't ever want to romance Garrus because he's an alien/their bro so they have to downplay the romance as much as they can so they don't feel weirded out.

Huh? we can't romance Garrus if we didn't import the savedata from ME1 or didn't recruit him in ME1?

If you just start ME2 you can because the default game assumes you recruited Garrus, so you do have history together despite not playing ME1 yourself. If you intentionally refuse to recruit Garrus in a save game then import it , you can't romance him in ME2.

*edit*

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 12 août 2010 - 08:39 .

[Nilfalasiel]

Brian619 wrote...

Huh? we can't romance Garrus if we didn't import the savedata from ME1 or didn't recruit him in ME1?

Only if you didn't recruit him in ME1 and imported that save.

If you started an ME2-only character, the game will assume that you recruited Garrus in ME1.

And yes, the fact that you can't romance him if you didn't recruit him in ME1 just gives added depth to the relationship, really. It's a nice little touch, even though we never would've known if jilly hadn't tried not recruiting him for science. So thanks jilly!

@ Hyrule_Gal: Why Ilos? That's not the comment that starts the romance. In fact, I've never picked that comment and the "we should work off stress together" trigger popped up just fine.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 12 août 2010 - 08:37 .

[Nilfalasiel]

Damn double post

I'll just use it to say that the drawing of Techno Turian is made of win.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 12 août 2010 - 08:38 .

[Twilight_Princess]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Brian619 wrote...

Huh? we can't romance Garrus if we didn't import the savedata from ME1 or didn't recruit him in ME1?

Only if you didn't recruit him in ME1 and imported that save.

If you started an ME2-only character, the game will assume that you recruited Garrus in ME1.

And yes, the fact that you can't romance him if you didn't recruit him in ME1 just gives added depth to the relationship, really. It's a nice little touch, even though we never would've known if jilly hadn't tried not recruiting him for science. So thanks jilly!

@ Hyrule_Gal: Why Ilos? That's not the comment that starts the romance. In fact, I've never picked that comment and the "we should work off stress together" trigger popped up just fine.

whoops my bad

[Brian619]

Ah, i see. Thanks for sharing the information.

[Brian619]

Sure i'm pleased with Garrus is available to romance in ME2 instead of 1. In ME1, i think of him as a valuable crewmate, good friend and somewhat a junior fellow soldier who needs guidance and advices, nothing more nothing less. Glad he changed to a more mature character and capable of standing as an equal to Shepard instead like a junior officer in ME2, though he has my sympathy that the incident that changed him was a betrayal from one of his teammates.

[Alexine]

I never thought that Garrus was a romance in ME1. I think that if they made Garrus romance-able in ME1, I think that the turians would be interpreted in a totally different light, maybe similar to how asari are portrayed, but turians were supposed to be the elite and militaristic class. In the end, I'm glad that Garrus was romanceable in ME2 than in ME1. BW made Garrus in ME1 a bit too immature and hot-headed.

[UnDutchable]

I agree that introducing alien LIs had to be a gradual process. I played ME2 before ME1 and I stayed away from Thane and Garrus because I couldn't imagine why anyone would want a relationship with a frog-lizard-snake guy with hallucinogenic saliva or a metal-skinned, kitty-faced dinosaur with killer sperm. Then I played ME1, and I was converted, haha.

And I'm glad Garrus wasn't romanceable in ME1. He acts so young and he looks to Shepard as an example, so any romance would have kind of felt like Shepard taking advantage of him. Not to mention that turning him more paragon or more renegade would have been really creepy. "Hey Garrus, stop trying to beat up suspects and I'll show you some human flexibility. "

[MadCat221]

Here's a close-up of Willy's head, showing the colonial markings a bit more clearly:



They travel all the way down to his nose.  He also has two more on the outer edge of his brow plates.

Also, the people making the Garrus/Jacob comparisons are probably envious Jacob fans.

Modifié par MadCat221, 12 août 2010 - 01:50 .

[Sialater]

I think we all need to thank Jillyfae for taking one on the chin for us and sacrificing a game with no Garrus just for science.

[Xsause]

Sialater wrote...

I think we all need to thank Jillyfae for taking one on the chin for us and sacrificing a game with no Garrus just for science.

[jillyfae]

Why thank you. Me loves cookies. *nom nom*

And, except for getting a little extra Wrex dialogue? Totally not worth it. So, none of you should try it. *laughs*