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[Kim Shepard]

I wouldn't mind if Garrus has opinions that can't be changed. That's normal for any person to have. If Garrus objected to Shepard doing something that could kill off a lot of turians, I think that would be realistic. (And I really hope this doesn't happen, because the only reason EvilShep would go out of his way to save civilians is if he knew the turians would owe him one, or an army.) But I think "moral guide" is going too far. Garrus has always trusted Shepard's decisions no matter what they are, to the point that he's fine working with an alien-hating organization for now. I agree that I don't think he would betray Shepard or stop being loyal, but I have a few Shepards who would consider it a betrayal if he tried too much to change their opinions.

And because I can't look at anything on deviantart without my computer getting a virus... here's my attempt at posting that link as an image. Edit: Okay, didn't work. xD

Modifié par Kim Shepard, 12 août 2010 - 08:02 .

[Pedpickle]

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Modifié par Pedpickle, 12 août 2010 - 08:17 .

[Mresa]

 Thank you.^^
I wonder if Velarn would destroy the Reapers in the end of ME3 with his dismissive air-quotes. 

[Kim Shepard]

Councilor Velarn can kill mercs with airquotes. xD Awesome.

I would like Shepard to have an "Ah yes, Reapers" dialogue choice in ME3. Just to taunt the Council, and then have the option to save them later.

Council: The Reapers are coming!
Shepard: Ah yes, "Reapers." I thought you dismissed that claim.
Council: Shepard!
Shepard: Just kidding. I'll send the fleet in.

@Ragabul: Shepard having the option to ask for squadmate opinions might be the best way to go. MaleShep is conflicted about a lot of things (genophage, quarian/geth, rachni - basically war decisions that he thinks would have been right at the time) and makes some decisions from paranoia alone (destroying the base and leaving the Cerberus crew to die), so I could see him asking Garrus "Am I crazy for doing this?" Then the Shepards who aren't conflicted at all would just never ask.

[Xsause]

Mordin will own the Reapers with his dancing skillz.

[goofygoff]

Oh, man. Velarn is like the face crusher from Kids in the Hall.



Which is awesome.

[Pedpickle]

I'm honored to hold such a title! xD

I really admire your guys' abilities to analyze Garrus and everything he does in a way I hadn't thought about before. I'd comment more on how I felt, but it'd only be agreeing with everything you guys already said.
You guys are awesome.

Modifié par Pedpickle, 12 août 2010 - 11:17 .

[kglaser]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Okay, I know they probably took out the romance for Garrus because he references things like her being his only friend, him being someone she can trust, etc... But to me it's also solid proof that the relationship means more than it sounds like it does at first glance. If all Garrus and Shepard needed was to 'blow off steam', they'd do it regardless. What they have is clearly not a cheap fling, even if they talk about it like it is at first.

I know I'm late here, but this is just SO perfectly true, I had to agree.

jillyfae wrote (re: not recruiting Garrus in ME1):
And, except for getting a little extra Wrex dialogue? Totally not worth it. So, none of you should try it. *laughs*

Thanks to you, we never have to make that sizeable sacrifice...and I appreciate it!
So have a cupcake too:

Modifié par kglaser, 13 août 2010 - 12:07 .

[kglaser]

Mresa wrote...

http://altiuso83.dev...ectre-174925473

<3EPIC WIN.

And Pedpickle, if you ever become an officer in Clan V., you already have a title--Garrus Thread Ninja Santa Claus. 

Modifié par kglaser, 13 août 2010 - 12:17 .

[Titanium Man]

Pedpickle wrote...


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I TOLD you people he can cast Bigby's Condescending Air Quotes!

[Timerider42]

JulianP wrote...

Finally a bit of time to check on this thread.  Sorry if I'm interrupting anything.

You guys have probably all seen this, but I just saw this:



It's a working Nerf Garrus-colored Mantis rifle!  Aw, how cute!  I wish I had a bunch of money I could spend experimenting with making and modding one of those.  Although I personally preferred the Viper when I did ME2; who needs a one-shot-kill when you can shoot twice in quick succession?  (But depending on my strategy, I may give the Mantis more time on the next playthough.)  I'm replaying ME1 as an Infiltrator instead of Vanguard, and for me, being able to use the sniper is totally worth the loss of the cool biotics.  Completely changed my combat style, and it's actually not bad at close range if one gets the hang of no-scoping.  No wonder Garrus loves his rifle.  Now if only it were actually possible to Nerf-snipe from 500 meters...

AWESOME.

[Andaius20]

hey folks checking in since I've been gone for a few weeks. How's it all going?

[Collider]

There are always more topics.

What do you think Garrus would do in this situation? Or this one?

Also, the fact that Garrus can only be romanced if recruited was a nice touch. I always thought that Garrus and Tali romances were the ones based around a heavy foundation of trust.

[Andaius20]

Seems, we're taking after you now, since the fleet thread is out. Clan Zorah is the place to be now



Also ME 3 is looking a little different it seems:

[Collider]

Okay, here's one? Do you think the stick up the turian councilor's butt is his own doing? Or do you think he is reflecting turian popular sentiment? I wonder how turian politicians operate on that level. Are they expected to be spokepersons or do they get some say in what they say? Is that guy speaking on behalf of Palaven? The Primarchs? How does he even get that position? Is he elected? Or appointed as lots of other turians seem to be?

I kind of take the council as plot devices for the most part - as well as archetypes of their races - which isn't unfitting because they are the "representatives" of their races. Velarn - the Turian councilor comes off with Turian sternness and as you said conservatism. I might also suggest that some of the coldness may be a reflection of the Turian-Human relations in the galaxy in general - there's a certain of mutual rivalry and dislike/distrust. Velarn is the avatar of that.

[Collider]

Yea, I agree that it's hard to know what he'd do in the first situation. Just wanted to see what people thought.



For the second, about what he'd do about the scientist/soldier.

[Collider]

Well the Council in general are plot devices - they are supposed to be stubborn and dismissive - otherwise there'd be no Mass Effect. The games revolve around Shepard taking things in her own hands, which is why her actions are so important and far reaching. Cause she's among the only people actually doing something to help. Anyway, Velarn himself may still dislike humans either way.



I saw ME2 as both softening Cerberus up but making them worse at the same time.

[Collider]

We don't know for sure that's his name. It's just the name people have been using, so it sticks. Like i said, I saw each councilor as representing their race in some capacity. The Asari one for example is the "patient and wise" one. The Salarian is the most accepting of the choices with dire long term consequences, because Salarians think short-term.