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[Kim Shepard]

Arterial wrote...

Just a little question here, why do people say that Garrus is like a renegade? He's not a renegade, renegades kill batarians and push people out of windows and get mad and punch reporters, Garrus doesn't punch reporters when he gets mad, Garrus does some calibrations when he gets mad =P

Like Ragabul said, he's been called a "compassionate Renegade." He tries to help people, but he supports a lot of Renegade decisions and agrees a lot more with a Renegade Shepard because they share opinions. For the Saleon and Sidonis missions, he went into that wanting to kill them both (no matter what Shepard's decision is later). He also wanted to shoot down Saleon's ship even though there could be casualties on the Citadel from the crash, and that "mission first" type of thinking is Renegade.

@Ragabul: In that case, he's the guy my favorite character killed. I liked Darth Maul, but I liked him too.

[Arterial]

He dies in the wierdest way ever, he gets cut, then his body dissapears except for his robe 0_o

Yeah, that makes sense, like Garrus would say "hey, we need to kill this guy cuz hes a bad guy and he dosn't deserve to live" then my Paragon Shepards all like "well Garrus..now now, everyone deserves a second chance"

the first time I did his loyalty mission, I let him kill Sidonis, I didn't know you could save him and still have Garrus be loyal =/ when I figured out that you could save him, I started my paragade shepard and went back just to do that LM all over again lol

@kim saren and Darth Maul? you're a big villain fanboy arent you? its easier to be a hero or heroine fanboy/girl cuz then you're favorite character dosn't always die at the end lol

Modifié par Arterial, 19 août 2010 - 07:49 .

[Kim Shepard]

My Shepards tend to lean towards Renegade, or at least vengeful - even the Paragades. I don't know if any of them can be considered Paragon. One "warrior of justice" type Shepard that I planned out ended up like Garrus in the way that she kills criminals rather than arresting them. I think this Saren quote would fit her: "Some Spectres arrest people. I don't."

The villains are usually my favorite characters, and I'm used to my favorites getting killed off by now. xD Poor guys. Some people on the forums get so upset that their favorites aren't in the game as much as they want. I just think, "Okay... but my favorite dies at the end of every playthrough."

[Arterial]

Oh yeah, my face when I did the Archangel mission, just follow the link, I dunno how to post pics

http://images.memege...-Its-Garrus.jpg

lulz



 

Modifié par Arterial, 19 août 2010 - 08:02 .

[Arterial]

I try to make a paragade, I fail and end up making a paragon with a bit of renegade. I'm a compassionate person in real life and even in games I find it hard to be renegade.



as for the Sidonis mission, I just kind of started talking to him, then I felt sorry for him, when he said "sometimes I just wish it were over" or something suicidal along those lines, I almost made Garrus shoot him, but I resisted cuz I knew he wanted to live, In ME 1&2 the only kills I make are in combat, never while talking.

[Arterial]

I dislike some of the villains that are just dickish about it, like they'll kill someone just because or they'll take candy from children or something like that =P



omg tht sucks, where did you get the spoiler from? I would nerdrage so hard too, just go like "NOO THEY LIE!!" then convince myself that it's just gonna be some random turian that no one cares about



It's like the Harry Potter books and how everyone insists on telling you every detail of every spoiler thats in the book to where its not even worth reading any more

[Arterial]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Yea, I suck at being mean too. My paragade is about is renegade as I ever get and she definitely doesn't shoot unarmed people and has a really hard time shooting anybody who asks for mercy. She sucks it up and shoots anyway sometimes because she figures some people will do more harm than good if she doesn't.

Now dudeshep, that guy has a strong renegade streak in him. He is my "loyaty first" Shep who will do anything for his squadmates so he does some pretty dark things when Zaeed or Jack come asking for favors. But if he was left on his own, he is actually fairly paragon. He just never ventures his opinion unless specifically asked for it.

When I first played the game, the first one, I said to my self that I will kill as small amount of people as I could. I didn't kill anyone that I shouldnt of and I did all of the paragon options, I'm now working on my paragade (got both games a month ago, friend is borrowing ME 1) once I get ME 1 back, I'mma do pure renegade Shep because I hear he has a lot of funny one-liners. My paragade isn't going so well though because like I said I'm too paragon, I really meant to be good to my team, but really harsh to my enemies. Something I don't like about the game is that in the options wheel, you'll choose a seemingly harmless response, but then it comes out with a bad connotation when Shep says it if its on the lower right, I think they need to fix that.

[Kim Shepard]

A lot of my favorite characters are basically this - Even Evil Has Standards. Saren would definitely fit in this trope. What he said to the batarian in Revelation was awesome.

Yay, "undisputed Saren love trophy." xD If only the priiize was a Saren resurrection in ME3.

I always read the spoilers, every spoiler that I can find for games, books, movies, etc. I knew Garrus was Archangel and that he was a romance option way before ME2's release date.

[Arterial]

Kim Shepard wrote...

A lot of my favorite characters are basically this - Even Evil Has Standards. Saren would definitely fit in this trope. What he said to the batarian in Revelation was awesome.

Yay, "undisputed Saren love trophy." xD If only the priiize was a Saren resurrection in ME3.

I always read the spoilers, every spoiler that I can find for games, books, movies, etc. I knew Garrus was Archangel and that he was a romance option way before ME2's release date.

What did he say to the batarian? I don't have any of ME 1 or 2s DLC and probably not going to get cuz it costs somewhere around $30 for all of it and I don't have a lot of money (no job cuz I'm too lazy playing ME all day *vicious cycle*) =P

Time to answer some of the newbies questions

question 1- is the DLC worth getting?
question 2- How long does it take to be accepted into Clan Zora?
question 3- whats with this "priiiize stuff?
no spoilers pleaze & thx

[Nilfalasiel]

I put Garrus on SR in ME1 as soon as I get a decent amount of points in it, and he's awesome with it. I only give him the AR at the beginning, or in very close quarters. So I'm more surprised that he defaults to AR in ME2, especially considering how his sniping skills are now a storyline point.

Collider wrote...

Yea, but unless they know the conversation in and out they wouldn't know how many conversations they have left with a character. It's hard to pace them if one doesn't know how much content there is. I also agree that non-plot gifts were a bad idea. i hope they get rid of that in DA2.

My second time through DA:O, I went back to camp after every major mission and after about 2 sidequests. I imposed myself a restriction that I wouldn't talk to the same character more than once per camp visit. I don't know all the conversations by heart, but I thought this worked really well.

But yeah, I agree about non-plot gifts. They should shift more of the approval to conversations, that would solve the problem, I think.

What worries me more is that I seem to have missed out on a whole chunk of conversations with Sten both times: the convos are listed on the Wiki, but I'm positive that there are some that I've never seen, even though I tried all the conversation options with him. It puzzles me.

[RedTracer7]

Arterial wrote...

What did he say to the batarian? I don't have any of ME 1 or 2s DLC and probably not going to get cuz it costs somewhere around $30 for all of it and I don't have a lot of money (no job cuz I'm too lazy playing ME all day *vicious cycle*) =P

Time to answer some of the newbies questions

question 1- is the DLC worth getting?
question 2- How long does it take to be accepted into Clan Zora?
question 3- whats with this "priiiize stuff?
no spoilers pleaze & thx

RedTracer7, Officer at Clan Zorah, Master of the Shin-Bolts, kicks down the Door:

Question 1: Yes.  A thousand times yes.  The weapon packs are... fun, but you could pass on them.  Kasumi/Overlord are must buys though.

Question2: I don't see a way to accept you myself, meaning you will have to wait for Coll to get on.  He's on every day, I already contacted him.  Nevermind, your in!

Question 3: ...Jacob 

Modifié par RedTracer7, 19 août 2010 - 08:38 .

[Arterial]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Yea, the paraphrases are inaccurate on the dialog wheel. A particular sore point of mine are the paragon options for Mordin where you start calling him a war criminal and mass murderer and whatnot. I wish there was some way to disagree about the genophage without making the guy to look like Mengele.

And I also like villains that "evil just because" villains. I like the ones that have some angle or story to them or think they are doing the right thing but got messed up somewhere along the way.

That Garrus spoiler was totally my fault as I was hanging around a Garrus thread just before the game came out. I was asking for that one. Still finding out Garrus and Tali were LIs was worth it. I know the in-game surprise was epic, but the reveal on the forums was pretty big and fun too just in a different way. An "allcaps fiasco riot" I believe is the proper terminology.

lol allcaps fiasco riot.

The only villians I like are the ones who are trying to do something good but are going about it all wrong, like (if you've played it) fable 2, I won't give out any spoilers, but the villain is like that.

and the paraphrases are hopefully going to be fixed in ME 3 probably not but you can hope can't you? Everyones treating ME 3 like its the last chance to get any improvements in before the whole video game ME franchise is shut down forever, not true, I remember reading somewhere that there are going to be other games, just not in the same timeline and not with the same characters. They're going to have a tough time rivaling characters like Garrus and Tali.

[Arterial]

RedTracer7 wrote...

Arterial wrote...

What did he say to the batarian? I don't have any of ME 1 or 2s DLC and probably not going to get cuz it costs somewhere around $30 for all of it and I don't have a lot of money (no job cuz I'm too lazy playing ME all day *vicious cycle*) =P

Time to answer some of the newbies questions

question 1- is the DLC worth getting?
question 2- How long does it take to be accepted into Clan Zora?
question 3- whats with this "priiiize stuff?
no spoilers pleaze & thx

RedTracer7, Officer at Clan Zorah, Master of the Shin-Bolts, kicks down the Door:

Question 1: Yes.  A thousand times yes.  The weapon packs are... fun, but you could pass on them.  Kasumi/Overlord are must buys though.

Question2: I don't see a way to accept you myself, meaning you will have to wait for Coll to get on.  He's on every day, I already contacted him.

Question 3: ...Jacob 

but red...the door...I...ugh never mind *gets down and begins fixing the door*

Yeah, I always felt like I was missing out on something with Kasumi and the other DLC character, I will save up and buy these

some of the DLC for ME2 is free if you bought the game new so no loss there.

'

I got the game used *never* get used games with free DLC coming with the game, you just open a case of empty promises. >=[

Thts cool, I'll wait.

Femshep?

*fixes the door, polishing the hinges so they have that nice shine to them* 

Modifié par Arterial, 19 août 2010 - 08:43 .

[RedTracer7]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Actually Arterial, they found a way so you are in Clan Z now. The link should be up on your profile.

Yep.  Luckily Thunder was on.  I was just missing the final click.

[Thundertactics]

Yep, Arterial, just granted your membership for Clan Z, enjoy your Tali luvin'!

And to make this somewhat Garrus related:

Modifié par Thundertactics, 19 août 2010 - 08:44 .

[Kim Shepard]

@Ragabul: That's the main reason why most of my favorites are villains, because they usually have the most interesting story behind them. Most of the time, they're also the most intelligent (with all their awesome plans) and badass (cool guys don't watch the explosions).

@Arterial: I don't have DLC either, but that's because I refuse to connect my Xbox online. If you don't mind that, then the DLC is definitely worth it. If BioWare releases a version of the games with all of the DLC on the disc, I would buy a second copy of the game just for that.

The Saren line isn't from DLC, it's from the novel Revelation. He says it to a batarian who paid for a human prostitute just to torture and kill her. "You disgust me. You wanted to torture an innocent victim for your own pleasure. You sick bastard."

And the "priiize" like is from Jacob's romance. Look it up on youtube, it's hilarious.

[Nilfalasiel]

Arterial wrote...

Time to answer some of the newbies questions

question 1- is the DLC worth getting?
question 2- How long does it take to be accepted into Clan Zora?
question 3- whats with this "priiiize stuff?
no spoilers pleaze & thx

1) DLC for which game? If you mean just ME2, then I'd say not all of it. I recommend Zaeed and Kasumi, as well as Project Overlord (for which you'd need Firewalker as well). Other than that, well, Normandy Crash Site is nice for a bit of an emotional moment, but it's not really important or anything. I haven't gotten any of the latest weapon/equipment packs or the alternate appearance one though, because the weapons seem like overkill, and Jack's and Thane's alternate outfits don't look good to me (why shades??)

2) You just join the group, you don't need to be accepted.

3) "Heavy risk...but the priiiiiize" is a notoriously infamous line from Jacob's final romance scene. The way he says it is hilariously bad.