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Lovestories wrote...

I have another question for this thread. what do you see for Garrus's end in 3? Head of C-Sec? Spectre? Still fighting with Shepard? Would you be unsatisfied if he died heroically?
If you can be bothered, it would be good to get the answer as 1) what you think vs 2) what you want to happen
Just remembering an argument someone had about Garrus certainly dying in 3

These two, definitely. While I'd be proud to see him head of C-Sec or in some high turian military position, that's just not Garrus. The higher rank you go, the more paperwork you get to do and the less fighting you get to do. I think he's the type of guy that needs to be a part of the action to feel like he's making a real contribution. I think he'd be miserable doing anything else. And let's face it, once Shepard saves the day for a third time, her recommendation is going to mean a -lot- in his favor as far as a Spectre application goes.

Also, I would kill someone if he died, however heroically. D8<

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Lovestories wrote...

I have another question for this thread. what do you see for Garrus's end in 3? Head of C-Sec? Spectre? Still fighting with Shepard? Would you be unsatisfied if he died heroically?
If you can be bothered, it would be good to get the answer as 1) what you think vs 2) what you want to happen
Just remembering an argument someone had about Garrus certainly dying in 3


To be honest, I don't know what Garrus will do at the end. I don't think he'll go back to C-Sec, because he really despises how they work. As for Spectres, I don't think so either, as it could come into factors such as if there is a human council or alien council.

I think most likely, if you romance him, he'll stay by Shepard while she travels the galaxy. :P

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This is all we know about clawball from Cerberus daily news:



"Turian clawball legend Neno Raxirian has joined the Hierarchy forces heading to Taetrus. The 39-year-old is on the 14th citizenship tier, making him eligible for conscription. Raxirian says he’s volunteering. “There’s a time and a place for clawball,” he said in an interview with GBC News, “and there’s a time to serve honorably.” That he has done — in a brief service stint during his adolescence, he received a citation after his unit came under fire. Is this seeking out past glories? Raescir Rockets fans know his performance has slipped of late — the team has only 9 wins this season, backed by 7 losses. Raxirian denies the stats have any relation to his decision. “I don’t think anyone could look at the Vallum Blast and say they don’t want to help. For me, funding a charity isn’t enough. I want to be there. I want to act now.”



Hmmm, there is a tidbit about citizenship tiers in there that I never noticed before as well. How interesting.



Also: "After a five-game suspension, turian clawball legend Neno Raxirian is back on the scene just in time for the semifinals against the Tarax Threshers. Raxirian was suspended for having a jarvus-string racquet, an illegal advantage he claimed not to know about. Coach Helven can’t wait to get the midfielder back into the mix. “He’s got some rust to shake off, but I’d rather have a rusty Neno picking up grounders and sending them downfield than anyone else. He gets the ball to the shooters, and that’s what matters.” Raxirian himself is modest about his accomplishments. “I just want to put this behind me,” he says. “I don’t like black marks on my record, and I sure don’t need any help putting that ball through against the Thresher line.”



@Lovestories



I really have no way to accurately predict what will happen with Garrus as his character is so variable. I think it might be possible for him to die in certain circumstances, but I don't think it would be set. I think there will also be several varieties of happily ever afters for him as well both platonic and in a relationship with Shepard.



What I do expect to happen is that he will become more independent and that all the mentoring he has gotten from Shepard will have some kind of ultimate result. I just have no idea what that might be and frankly I want Bioware to surprise me a little.

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I know and care nothing about sports, but I would -so- watch a clawball match. It sounds like football mixed with tennis, but it's got turians in it so it's probably way cooler than that. :P

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

I know and care nothing about sports, but I would -so- watch a clawball match. It sounds like football mixed with tennis, but it's got turians in it so it's probably way cooler than that. :P


Haha, this is precisely why I just posted this for you guys to decode because all the sports lingo means absolutely nothing to me.:lol:

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

I know and care nothing about sports, but I would -so- watch a clawball match. It sounds like football mixed with tennis, but it's got turians in it so it's probably way cooler than that. :P

This.

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hmm to answer my own question, needed to think about it more than I thought
I think Garrus might continue on some crusade i.e if not returning to omega to "bust some chops" continuing along that line of just fighting for some new injustice. Well thats the best I could think of right now.

what I want, Garrus to make spectre, head of C-sec, head of Omega, pretty much anything that puts Garrus in a strong position of power. Whatever happens I just want it "to go right" =D

Modifié par Lovestories, 22 août 2010 - 05:59 .


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I think Garrus will still be fighting alongside Shepard, depending on the end choices that Shepard can make, if any at all. I know it probably won't be this detailed, but if Shepard and the squad can talk about their plans for after the Reaper threat is over, then there might be a few different possibilities. Garrus will still be an idealist, although he would have learned from his experience Omega to find a better way of going about it - don't rush into anything, always think ahead, make sure you have several back-up plans if something goes wrong, etc. He's not the type to stop fighting for people though. If Shepard is the same way, then they'll almost definitely stay together, but if that's not part of Shepard's plan, I think he would go off alone and do it anyway.

I can't see him going back to C-Sec, and it's not just because my Shepards told him not to. Even if Shepard persuades him to go back in ME1, he still gets frustrated and leaves before ME2, and I doubt that will change. It would be awesome if he could become a Spectre at the end of ME3 because of all his help to bring down the Reapers. That's a likely possibility.

Also, I would be disappointed if it's impossible to avoid the deaths of certain characters. The ME2 system worked great - if Shepard makes all the right choices, everyone gets out alive, and if there are any characters that players want to kill off for whatever reason (because they hate them or because they think it'll make their Shepard's story more dramatic), then it's possible. If Garrus does die as a result of that, the only way for him to die should be heroically.

@Ragabul: Interesting. I don't know that much about sports either, so a combination of football and tennis sounds cool.

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Lovestories wrote...

hmm to answer my own question, needed to think about it more than I thought
I think Garrus might continue on some crusade i.e if not returning to omega to "bust some chops" continuing along that line of just fighting for some new injustice. Well thats the best I could think of right now.

what I want, Garrus to make spectre, head of C-sec, head of Omega, pretty much anything that puts Garrus in a strong position of power. Whatever happens I just want it "to go right" =D

Agreed, I definitely want him to become a success and someone others will look up to for an example, as they do with Shepard. Whatever the specifics, I think he deserves that much. But preferrably an option that keeps him with my Garrus-romancing FemShep. <3

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Speaking of deaths in ME2, has anyone tried to kill off Garrus in the Suicide Mission for science? I haven't, but I want to start my only two squaddies playthroughs to see what would happen in ME3 because of it.

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Alexine wrote...

Speaking of deaths in ME2, has anyone tried to kill off Garrus in the Suicide Mission for science? I haven't, but I want to start my only two squaddies playthroughs to see what would happen in ME3 because of it.

I got Garrus killed on accident.
I picked the wrong person for Biotic specalist and he got eated.
I reloded and picked Samarra.
Garrus would not go out like that.

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Alexine wrote...

Speaking of deaths in ME2, has anyone tried to kill off Garrus in the Suicide Mission for science? I haven't, but I want to start my only two squaddies playthroughs to see what would happen in ME3 because of it.


Your console would just blow up out of sheer dissapointment.

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I've killed him as second squad leader (the one with dialogue), just because I had to know what he said. He has to be unloyal for it to work. It is heart-wrenching. :(

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Alright Garrus thread I'm out.
Keep the Garrus love going.
*burrows away*

Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 22 août 2010 - 06:14 .


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Nope and I could never do it, Garrus has to come through in all my playthrough. If I tried to play one where he dies I'd just cry uncontrollably till i reach the reaper baby, which I would allow to kill me immediately, so me and Garrus can kick ass together again in the after life.

Modifié par Lovestories, 22 août 2010 - 06:20 .


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Alexine wrote...

Speaking of deaths in ME2, has anyone tried to kill off Garrus in the Suicide Mission for science? I haven't, but I want to start my only two squaddies playthroughs to see what would happen in ME3 because of it.

I would never do it. If there's any way to keep my favorite characters alive, I'll take that option every time. They die way too often. If there was an option to keep Saren alive, I don't care how I had to justify it for each Shepard - he would always live.

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Alexine wrote...

Speaking of deaths in ME2, has anyone tried to kill off Garrus in the Suicide Mission for science? I haven't, but I want to start my only two squaddies playthroughs to see what would happen in ME3 because of it.


*delurks*
Not yet... although I plan to do so with a new Shepard I just started up, as I'm kinda curious about what happens in ME3 if I kill off most of my squad (sans the dlc folk or Samara/Morinth, since I think they have the smallest chance of coming back). That and making Shepard's life as miserable as possible. :devil:

But for my first Shepard, hellll no... the idea of getting Garrus killed is just. no.

Modifié par atraxia, 22 août 2010 - 06:38 .


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Garrus & Tali are pretty much guaranteed to survive in my playthroughs.

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Alexine wrote...
Speaking of deaths in ME2, has anyone tried to kill off Garrus in the Suicide Mission for science? I haven't, but I want to start my only two squaddies playthroughs to see what would happen in ME3 because of it.

Yes. Two hundred times. Every way imaginable.

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I'm a softie. I never let anybody die. Mordin died on me once, but I promptly reloaded and pretended it never happened. I've watched a few youtube vids to satisfy what little curiosity I had.

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Pacifien wrote...

Alexine wrote...
Speaking of deaths in ME2, has anyone tried to kill off Garrus in the Suicide Mission for science? I haven't, but I want to start my only two squaddies playthroughs to see what would happen in ME3 because of it.

Yes. Two hundred times. Every way imaginable.

Was that part of the suicide mission data? xD

Miranda got killed off in one of my "for science" playthroughs, but it was for a good cause. Thane caught Shepard!

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I would actually try losing a teammate if this was involved with the Seeker swarm death, but when unedited the squadmate deaths are hard to laugh at. The first time I tried the suicide mission, I lost Thane in the vents and Legion as a squad leader...had to reload the backup save after hearing the "No carrier. No carrier. No carrier." Bad mistake on my part.

Fortunately, Garrus seems to be as indestructible as ever, so you really have to screw up badly to get him killed.

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Kim Shepard wrote...
Was that part of the suicide mission data? xD

Miranda got killed off in one of my "for science" playthroughs, but it was for a good cause. Thane caught Shepard!

Well, sure, if you want to put it all in context. Everyone gets a turn! :P

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I'm a softie. I never let anybody die. Mordin died on me once, but I promptly reloaded and pretended it never happened. I've watched a few youtube vids to satisfy what little curiosity I had.



My first playthrough mordin died because I didn't read any FAQs about the suicide mission. I got everything else right but the "escort" choice threw me through a loop. I thought I needed to send someone tough to protect such a large group on their own, so I sent zaeed. Then made a second big mistake by taking Garrus and Grunt with me to fight the reaper Posted Image I'm surprised no one else got killed because I took away all the badasses. Rest assured, everyone is alive on my canon save, nobody puts baby in the corner!...or something like that Posted Image.

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Actually, Miranda got killed off twice. The second was an accident. My hold-the-line score wasn't high enough, and she was the only non-loyal squadmate.

...I think the squadmates will start to fear the words "for science" now.