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[Collider]

Sparring was there to manage stress among the ship crew.

[J4N3_M3]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Collider wrote...

Sparring was there to manage stress among the ship crew.

Yes, but he was unusually focused on it in order to become known as one of the best hand to hand combatants on the ship.  That or he got on people's nerves a lot and got challenged to lots of fights.  There were also other ways to relieve stress that he mentioned like exercise rooms and combat sims.  He seems to have specifically gone in for sparring.

Really? I never saw it as Garrus going specifically for sparring. To me it always seemed as if he just pointed out the differences between human and turian ships and then this one memory came back to his mind. Of course, Bioware needed something for Shepard to jump on the romance, if she wanted to.

[Collider]

Sparring is visceral. That's what Garrus likes the most - the real thing. Fighting crime just isn't fighting crime for him if he isn't shooting something.

[Collider]

When was he was the on ship anyway? Was it before ME1?

[Nilfalasiel]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I think it was even before he joined C-Sec. He was talking about his time in the mainstream turian military so this was probably something from his late teens or early twenties.

Yeah, that. I don't think he could be part of C-Sec and the turian military at the same time.

As for why he practiced sparring, well, it's always good to have a backup plan. I'm sure he does prefer sniping things, but should he ever be in a situation where he doesn't have weapons, it means he's not completely defenseless.

[Alexine]

I was kind of peeved that there was no further dialogue with Garrus with his previous military life. But then again, if that happens, he'll probably turn into a Zaeed, spouting stories of the old days.

[J4N3_M3]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I think it was even before he joined C-Sec. He was talking about his time in the mainstream turian military so this was probably something from his late teens or early twenties.

Yeah, that. I don't think he could be part of C-Sec and the turian military at the same time.

As for why he practiced sparring, well, it's always good to have a backup plan. I'm sure he does prefer sniping things, but should he ever be in a situation where he doesn't have weapons, it means he's not completely defenseless.

but all soldiers and security personnell have basic melee training! just the personal experience differs from one individual to the next.

[lovgreno]

It wouldn't be too suprised if Garrus was a undercovered spectre ever since ME1. Him getting involved in Shepards adventure was a little too convinient. The Council and turian military would probably want to keep a close eye on that troublemaking newcomer Shepard.



About what age Garrus was when serving in the turian military and meeting a flexible sparring partner: I think he could have been very young as he have obviously always been extremely skilled for his years. In the militaristic turian society it may well be a common thing to let skilled teens serve the society the best way by placing them on a warship. That way they can grow into their full potential to be a good turian.

[REMspace]

I'd like to discover the past of Garrus, including through military stories. It would be interesting to find out more details on his military training and his first missions. I'd like to know when he get in C-Sec. And most importantly, I'd like to know something about his family and his father in particular. I hope that in ME3, Bioware sheds some light on these neglected aspects.

[Alexine]

I'm probably the only one not very interested in getting to know Papa V. Unless it's a bigger plot (like Garrus being an undercover spectre or his father is or something) then that would pique my interest. I much prefer more banter with a bit of getting to know Garrus' past a little.

[REMspace]

Yes, you're right Raga. Papa V is just a convenient way to learn more about Garrus, a kind of catalyst sort of like Rael for Tali.

[Hazzel42]

So do you think that if there is a cameo by papa V that he will be against Garrus's involvement (platonic or romantic) with Shepard? And would the type of involvement make a big difference to him? or would his time in C-Sec have mellowed him to other species?

[General Ashous]

Hey guys. I think Papa V will probably hate humans and will defiently hate a human spectre or even ex spectre. I'm thinking if he does appear then it will only be briefly and not really be important. But you never know...

[Hazzel42]

I was kind of thinking it could go either way depending on if he believes the Reapers exist and are a real threat. If he does he may put aside any negative feelings for humans and Shepard and support his son doing the right thing for the greater good. It seems to be important to Turians to look to the greater good in their own society, so even if he didn't care about any other species being under attack, the Reapers are big enough to effect every one.



I also think that having a career in C-Sec could have left him more open minded. If you are faced with different cultures every day for years on end there's a good chance some of it will rub off on you. If you can't handle that, then you'd look to move to a different job that takes you away from it. I can't see some one doing very well or lasting very long on the Citadel or in C-Sec if they became too speciesist. He may not like humans but I don't think it would be a very active hatred, more like a grumpy old man kind of thing.

[General Ashous]

A bit like Grissom then? lol. I think that C-sec may have effected his outlook. Personally, I don't believe that he for one minuet believes that the Reapers exist, but he may support his son no matter what (except if he becomes a specter, lol) and thus he may believe that his son and Shepard are in fact fighting for the greater good.

[Hazzel42]

Yeah pretty much :-) I think he'd be proud of his son even if he was stern and some what disappointed in his choices. I don't think Garrus would have been so eager to follow in his dad's foot steps when he started out if his dad was a total ******. He might be frustrated with his son's lack of respect for the rules and red tape, but proud of the intent to do the right thing.

[General Ashous]

Yeah. I think he'd be like "Now son, I'm proud that you want to do the right thing for everyone, but please, mate, try to stick to the rules and red tape, they're there for a reason." which is what I think a paragon Shep tries to teach him. That might make him go up in papa V's standards.

[kglaser]

Just_mike wrote...

Pedpickle wrote...

^ ha, is that WOW?
maybe he plays "Galaxy of Fantasy", that one based on turian mythology sold at the gamestore on the citadel.
It does have over 11 billion players.

Garrus plays Dragon Age. thousands of years into the future, people will look back and play Dragon age the same way people look back and play the 8-bit mario games.

I won't.

[kglaser]

Kim Shepard wrote...

@kglaser: Like I said, everyone probably has different definitions of "completely evil." I consider the batarian completely evil, and Saren "evil with standards." I think we can both agree that he's "awesome evil" though.

I agree that he's Awesome Evil ™, but now I'm afraid to re-read the book and discover he's not as evil as I first thought.  That's the whole reason I love him!