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[Kim Shepard]

gunswordfist wrote...

Kim Shepard wrote... Unfortunately, healing turian faceplates probably doesn't work the same way as healing human skin, and I doubt Cerberus would use the time and money to get equipment to heal turians (no matter how many times my Shepard would bother TIM about it).

Heh, you can actually bother them about that?!

Not really, I said she would bother him about it. She would if she could, but she can't. xD Game limitations. They also don't let her bother TIM until he resurrects Saren and lets her recruit Kai Leng.

[Eradyn]

Ah, fanfiction...so easy to write, so difficult to write well. And what pleases one person is nigh intolerable to another. As others have stated, if you have a plot, go for it. The most important thing, however, is to make sure you have a beta...and I mean a GOOD one. Not someone who skims it and says it's "good," but an honest-to-goodness beta who studies each line and ensures proper spelling, grammar, and sentence structure.



And yeah, there are a lot if cliches inherent in fanfiction...all a writer can do is try to be honest with themselves about their writing and always seek to improve their skill. Oh, and to try and keep it about the characters' stories, not themselves. Few blatant sue/self-insertions are tolerable.

[J4N3_M3]

Eradyn wrote...

Ah, fanfiction...so easy to write, so difficult to write well. And what pleases one person is nigh intolerable to another. As others have stated, if you have a plot, go for it. The most important thing, however, is to make sure you have a beta...and I mean a GOOD one. Not someone who skims it and says it's "good," but an honest-to-goodness beta who studies each line and ensures proper spelling, grammar, and sentence structure.

And yeah, there are a lot if cliches inherent in fanfiction...all a writer can do is try to be honest with themselves about their writing and always seek to improve their skill. Oh, and to try and keep it about the characters' stories, not themselves. Few blatant sue/self-insertions are tolerable.

if you know one, point them into my direction! I could use a beta for sure! a good beta for sure! 

[Kim Shepard]

Isn't there a beta reading thread in Clan V?

[J4N3_M3]

Kim Shepard wrote...

Isn't there a beta reading thread in Clan V?

there is, but I don't really find it helpful posting my entire chapter there, and then copy paste it back into my wordpad only to upload all i've corrected up to ff.net. I'd rather have someone I can send my file who reads it and then makes sidenotes.

[ciaweth]

I see fanfic like I see remixes of music I like. There are a crapton of horrible, trite, oontz oontz oontz remixes of perfectly wonderful songs out there, but every once in a while a remix comes along that makes me bliss out, put it on repeat, and love the original even more than I already did. There are fanfics like that, too.

Editing to add Garrus:  When someone gets Garrus' character pitch perfect, it makes me happy.  It's harder than it seems, because it's so easy to make him this fumbling awkward fool, or make him even angstier than he is in ME2.  And those things can be done well, but frequently aren't.

Modifié par ciaweth, 30 août 2010 - 08:36 .

[gunswordfist]

Kim Shepard wrote...

gunswordfist wrote... Kim Shepard wrote... Unfortunately, healing

turian faceplates probably doesn't work the

same way as healing human skin, and I doubt

Cerberus would use the time and money to

get equipment to heal turians (no matter how

many times my Shepard would bother TIM about it). Heh, you can actually bother them about

that?!

Not really, I said she would bother him about

it. She would if she could, but she can't. xD

Game limitations. They also don't let her

bother TIM until he resurrects Saren and lets her recruit Kai Leng.

lol It's kind of hard to revive ash.

[ciaweth]

mrsph wrote...

A lot of people just can't seem to grasp that if you are writing fanfiction. That you have to keep the characters you are using, well, in character.

Well, you don't have to, but it becomes crackfic really quickly when you don't, and it's nice to warn people who were looking for IC stuff.  If Garrus is in a pink tutu and playing with Barbies, I need a shot of whisky before I can follow the author there.

And paragraphs.

Paragraph fails make me stop reading.

[Bugsie]

I've never had a Garrus dream. The only ME related dream I ever had was a nightmare. I was helping some quarians out and the collectors came and killed all my quarians crewmates then they chased me into a tunnel with a dead end and I knew they were going to do horrible things to me, luckily I woke up.....



If you are writing fanfic, google docs works well as a repository for your stuff whilst it's being beta'd. Jane you should give that a go. The beta section in Clan V is probably better for snippets.

As for me I am totally new to fanfic, some of it is overly indulgent rubbish, yes, but I dont have a problem with that I just move along. It's also a place writers like to cut their teeth too, and there is definitely nothing wrong with that. If only real life insects were like the rachni, my day job would probably negate the need for me to write fanfic!

[Timerider42]

The first book takes place 20 years before the third book, or about 18 years before the first game. A lot of time to lose an arm in that period.

[JulianP]

TheSweetGirl wrote...
Here is the Masses to Masses one written by someone else:  http://www.fanfictio...asses_to_Masses 

Just read through it.  Have to admit, I can't stand the writing!  And I thought Pallin was OOC.  However, the author's sense of fun and irony was entertaining and endearing.  If there were a tabletop Mass Effect RPG, I bet this author would make a fun GM.  

ETA, skimmed your work.  Ashley smacks Garrus, LOL!   I noticed a few minor errors.   Still looking for a beta?  I'm a much better proofreader of fiction than I am a writer of it.

Modifié par JulianP, 31 août 2010 - 01:49 .

[TheSweetGirl]

JulianP wrote...

TheSweetGirl wrote...
Here is the Masses to Masses one written by someone else:  http://www.fanfictio...asses_to_Masses 

Just read through it.  Have to admit, I can't stand the writing!  And I thought Pallin was OOC.  However, the author's sense of fun and irony was entertaining and endearing.  If there were a tabletop Mass Effect RPG, I bet this author would make a fun GM.  

ETA, skimmed your work.  Ashley smacks Garrus, LOL!   I noticed a few minor errors.   Still looking for a beta?  I'm a much better proofreader of fiction than I am a writer of it.

Thanks! LOL HAHAHA He just wouldn't leave the Commander.

Oh Someone has volunteer to be my beta but thanks anyway

[kglaser]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

praetor_alpha wrote...

Aricle wrote...
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Hello! Top of the page-

Epic camouflage there, V.

Never noticed until now, but Garrus looks a lot younger in Mass Effect that he does in Mass Effect 2. I know two years went by, but he looks like he's all of seventeen in that picture. 

You're right, and I think it has something to do with the inferior textures in ME1...they tended to smooth out things like cracks and wrinkles so anyone would look younger.  The textures are so much better in ME2.

[J4N3_M3]

Buggirl70 wrote...
If you are writing fanfic, google docs works well as a repository for your stuff whilst it's being beta'd. Jane you should give that a go. The beta section in Clan V is probably better for snippets.

thanks for that, I just googled it and it does indeed look useful  

[Twilight_Princess]

Who here is crossing their fingers that Garrus will take that damn visor off during a final ME3 "love scene"? (Since the last two have it, it would be weird for Shepard NOT to have a final romantic moment with her LI before the "end")

Also, since I'm a greedy fangirl , I'm in the camp that wants at the very least , the top half of Garrus to be shown. I'm just really damn curious about turian autonomy and I want it to be officially shown so there’s no need to speculate anymore. Every other LI (apart from Thane and Tali) seems to bare all during their scenes (Jack shows hers all the time). I get that humans are easier to animate and don't get a "ew" reaction like poor Garrus gets but I don't think the aliens should miss out on having that level of intimacy just because their bodies are a bit different.

Having Garrus showing a Jacob amount of skin wouldn't be so terrible and Bioware doesn't have to worry about the mechanics of such love scene if they do what they are already skilled at doing, that is, blacking in an out during love scenes to make it look tasteful. All they need to show is some intimate hugging going on, some face strokes, and angled shots so there is nothing graphic shown (think ME1 minus the butt shot ) and there you go. The head bump was cute but I just want to better physical intimacy in ME3 that confirms that a) they have a meaningful relationship and b} can express it just as much as the other Mass effect couples.

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 31 août 2010 - 10:28 .

[J4N3_M3]

i think the problem here is again flycam xD people will try everything to get a "better" look from different angles during the "love" scene. Not that I would know what I am talking of *hides all her screenshots* xD

But yes, I absolutely second that.

[kglaser]

It would be nice to put an end to the argument that they didn't actually do anything "physical".

Plus, how could any shirtless Garrus shot look more alien than that otherworldly six-pack they put on Jacob?? XD

[Collider]

Yea, Garrus girls should get shirtless Garrus in ME3.

[Twilight_Princess]

kglaser wrote...

It would be nice to put an end to the argument that they didn't actually do anything "physical".

Some people say that AND label the romance as  "just a fling" or "friends with benifits". It's such a logic fail that it makes my forehead and the palm of my hand hurt.

Plus, how could any shirtless Garrus shot look more alien than that otherworldly six-pack they put on Jacob?? XD

  so true

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 31 août 2010 - 11:08 .

[Alexine]

Lol, it seemed a lot of the FemShep LIs for ME2 are shy of getting topless. I mean, Miranda and Jack (technically always) got topless and Tali got the helmet removal at least during the romance scene. And poor Thane and Garrus remained with shirts while Jacob and Kaidan bear all their abs to the world.

[Nilfalasiel]

Alexine wrote...

Lol, it seemed a lot of the FemShep LIs for ME2 are shy of getting topless. I mean, Miranda and Jack (technically always) got topless and Tali got the helmet removal at least during the romance scene. And poor Thane and Garrus remained with shirts while Jacob and Kaidan bare all their abs to the world.

I'm guessing they could argue that it's tasteless to show Thane-skin, because he's a dying man, but that's just making excuses (otherwise, why even make him romanceable?). As for Garrus, well...you can't discount the squick factor of a large portion of the fanbase, unfortunately. Even though, as I always tell those people (or, at least, think of telling them): if you don't like it, no one's forcing you to romance him!

With Tali, the situation's at least semi-justifiable by the fact that it's dangerous for her to be out of her suit, so raunchy body shots à la Miranda would probably have given off the wrong vibe.

But yeah, ME2 romance scenes have suffered from the SeXbox scandal around ME1, even though I thought that scene was very tastefully handled. The ME2 that do get shown in a bit of detail (read: the human LI scenes) are just a whole lot of dry-humping. And, by extension, let's not forget the silliness that is the presence of underwear in DA:O romance scenes.

IMO, you gotta decide: either you make the scenes less explicit, and then you don't have to worry, or you bite the bullet and remove the clothes, while perhaps changing some of the camera angles to avoid nipple-/butt-flashing. In-between just looks terminally odd.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 31 août 2010 - 11:35 .

[Collider]

The romance scenes in ME2 I liked the most also show the least amount of skin. If more skin means less/bad dialog (imagine Garrus saying the priiize ), I'll take less skin any day. I was pretty happy with the Thane, Tali, and Garrus romance scenes, they had good dialog.

Modifié par Collider, 31 août 2010 - 11:38 .

[lovgreno]

Well we always have our imagination to fill in what wasn't shown in the game.

[Nilfalasiel]

Collider wrote...
(imagine Garrus saying the priiize )

"Heavy risk...but the wiiiiine."

Aw man, where's my happy place when I need it?

But yeah, I do agree that the amount of skin shown and the quality of the romance scene as a whole (not just dialogue, but presentation and setting as well) seem to be inversely proportional in ME2.

Although, depending on whether you left Jack's default outfit on or not, she could be an exception.

Bottom line: better dialogue/setting pwns skin.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 31 août 2010 - 11:46 .