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[silentstephi]

Pacifien wrote...

I've done a few "tell me what you think about the character" runs around the forum this morning, but I'm actually having trouble coming up with a few different questions about Garrus. I got as far as...

1) Is Garrus an only child?  Possibly.  Though we don't really know all that much about the culture itself to make too many guesses on what the family unit is like... war like speices lends me to think that they'd have multiple children.  However, if he grew up on Palaven, that wouldn't be much of a concern, and I could see him being an only child.

2) Destined for fatherhood or too busy saving the galaxy to settle down?  He'd make a good dad.  Just not yet.  I definitely think he'd never want that kind of responsibilty while the Reapers are a bigger threat.  Afterwards... well, looking at it right now, I could see it either way.  That one I'm n ot really sure I could nail down. 

3) Enjoys the rain? If Virmire reminds him of Palaven, and Virmire is a tropical planet, it's logical to think it also rains there.  So I'll guess and say sure.  Though admittedly, that's probably more projection on my part than anything (I loves the rain and snow.)

4) Do you think he grumbled as much as the Krogan mechanic on Tuchanka while he was working on the Mako in ME1?  Haha no.  Otherwise, Wrex and Ash might have had more to say about the grumbly turian over in the corner.

5) Do you think he's got a sniper rifle akin to Zaeed's Jessie? Maybe not as extreme, but a personal favorite?  Sure.  Men get attached to their weapons (hurrrrrr).  I could see it. 

Oh and archive is updated to page 600. /flops  The 500s we got our troll cherry popped.  And there was lots of silly with Solt and Flammie. XD  Plus it's where Cerry got her Limerick Queen title. XD

[Bhatair]

1) Is Garrus an only child?

I'm guessing only child.  If he has siblings I see him as the eldest and obviously the rebellious one.

2) Destined for fatherhood or too busy saving the galaxy to settle down?

I can see him settling down at some point. That point is far along the road though, he's still very idealistic about promoting justice.

3) Enjoys the rain?

I bet so!

4) Do you think he grumbled as much as the Krogan mechanic on Tuchanka while he was working on the Mako in ME1?

I can picture Garrus mumbling to himself as he fiddles with a loose bolt XD

5) Do you think he's got a sniper rifle akin to Zaeed's Jessie? Maybe not as extreme, but a personal favorite?

I bet he does, but he keeps it a secret

Modifié par Bhatair, 01 juillet 2010 - 07:16 .

[Twilight_Princess]

Pacifien wrote...

I was wondering about the rain question. Garrus says Virmire reminds him of Palaven, yeah? Virmire was apparently based off of Ha Long Bay in Vietnam. This makes me think of monsoons, rain, heat, and mugginess. Ugh. I mean, pretty. But ugh. I wonder if Garrus ever sat in an unconditioned room in the heat of summer with no windy relief in sight and just went "ugh."

Great, now I picture Garrus and Shepard fighting over the thermostat. Shepard: 23! Garrus: That's freezing!

Oh yes, I used metric. Take that you unscientific imperial heathens.

ETA: Oh yeah, and agree with Hyrule's rant about everything leading to children. That irritates.

Also I forgot to add one more point. I didn't enjoy feeling "punished" when I chose Garrus and got the least amount of affection scenes and dialogue, so I don't wish to pick garrus and have children becoming a topic in the future romance when EVERY OTHER character doesn't! If you can't see a conversation with Jack about kids, tali about kids, miranda about kids, thane about kids and Jacob about kids then why on EARTH is Garrus only supposed to talk about it??? If you heard Jack supporters wanting her to talk about kids with Shepard in ME3 , you'd think it would be absurd, that's exactly how I feel at the thought of children being mentioned when talking to garrus in ME3.
 
Its either all of them talking about it or NONE of them, if the argument is "well Jack isn't the right type of character to discuss kids" then the same can be said for Garrus! It would be imposing on the people who viewed their femshep as someone who didn't want kids at all. At least if kids aren't mentioned AT ALL it gives players the option to speculate what their future will be like rather than taking that option away entirely by having the kid conversation happen

.Remember how angry everyone got at the forced flirting with jacob? If My shepard brought up children with Garrus I'd be just as mad! It will be a lot more safe in the long run if kids weren't brought up rather than if they did, just because its femshep it doesn't mean because she's female she should be the only one hankering for that baybee , if maleshep doesn't talk about it, she shouldn't either. If you can't see Maleshep in the game itself, sitting down with tali or jack or mirinda or liara and saying these words " we need to talk about children" and if for an instant that would sound weird to you than you just heard what I heard at the suggestion of garrus and shepard talking about the same subject.

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 01 juillet 2010 - 07:48 .

[silentstephi]

Do I smell a button? Oo

Edit:
Honestly, I don't think it would be a bad thing to think about.
I would pose the same question to all the other LIs... and I could come up with a few good reasons why those characters would be for or against it or could go either way.

/shrug

Kids are a single part of life.  The biggest part of it is whether to have one or not.

Although ... damn it... now I need to find the link...

Huzzah for Chimmy and her updated OP xD

Modifié par silentstephi, 01 juillet 2010 - 08:12 .

[silentstephi]

Ahahaha I giggled

[Xsause]

That comic always makes me laugh.


As for the "kids or no kids" thing, I hope they'll do something like Dragon Age (WITHOUT the PowerPoint thing at the end) and have the last conversation with your chosen LI be about what you're planning to do in the future; either settling down together (for a while) or continuing to travel/fight for the good of the galaxy.

Modifié par Xsause, 01 juillet 2010 - 09:03 .

[lovgreno]

They could adopt a turian child and a human child perhaps?
And settle down in Donovan Hochs estate. Samara and Mordin could help educate the children.
There are probably already some fanfics on this theme.

Modifié par lovgreno, 01 juillet 2010 - 09:40 .

[battlechantress]

Samara's already a matriarch isn't she? And Mordin's in his 30s. I don't think they'd be around that long to teach them much (although Samara would probably be around longer).

[Pacifien]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...
Its either all of them talking about it or NONE of them, if the argument is "well Jack isn't the right type of character to discuss kids" then the same can be said for Garrus! It would be imposing on the people who viewed their femshep as someone who didn't want kids at all.

Erm, actually, I did get the people in the Jack thread talking about. The answers might surprise you.

Modifié par Pacifien, 01 juillet 2010 - 10:02 .

[Bugsie]

silentstephi wrote...

Bug, it's Nihlus! A pretty damn good render of him too. XD

Archive of 3.0 updated.
Working on pgs 500 to 600 today. XD

Its a pretty gorgeous pic if I must say so.  His face tat looks so vibrant.

Oh and Stephi - not only do you deserve a life size Garrus plushie - but  a Nihlus one too!

[Aricle]

Buggirl70 wrote...

Oh and Stephi - not only do you deserve a life size Garrus plushie - but  a Nihlus one too!

Another title for you: Plushie Bequeather. Bit awkward, yes, but you are very generous with the plushies. Tis wonderful.

[Sialater]

All right, Pac... since I answered your Kaidan one... I'll stick with the Stupid Love Triangle and answer your Garrus one, too.

1) Is Garrus an only child? He's either the eldest or the only one of his gender considering the pressure put on him by his father.

2) Destined for fatherhood or too busy saving the galaxy to settle down?  I actually think it depends on your Shep.

3) Enjoys the rain?  Outside in it?  Probably not.  Curled up with Shepard somewhere cozy watching the rain stream down the windows... absolutely.

4) Do you think he grumbled as much as the Krogan mechanic on Tuchanka while he was working on the Mako in ME1?  Yes.  Especially if Meghan Shepard drove.  "Dear, would please... WATCH OUT!  Spirits of Palaven, you nearly killed us!  For the love of.... Give. Me. The. Wheel.  Now!  I don't care.  You're not the one that's going to have to put this thing back together.  Pout all you want.  You're not that cute."

5) Do you think he's got a sniper rifle akin to Zaeed's Jessie? Maybe not as extreme, but a personal favorite?  I think it's more that whatever rifle he's got at the moment is his favorite.  Every part will be in perfect working order and polished within an inch of it's life and shine like the sun.

[Brass_Buckles]

1) Is Garrus an only child?

My answer?  Maybe--I believe he's either an only child or the youngest.  He might have one or two older siblings; the only thing about him that might be middle child territory is his desire to gain his father's approval, but we already know he's more or less stopped caring about that by ME1.  He appears lacking in the actual ambition department (which is a big thing with the oldest child; they're usually more driven than the other children of a family)--he can't stick with C-Sec or the military and push ahead.  His goals lie elsewhere.  He's got a thing about changing the world, which is common with youngest children.  Being the youngest would also explain why he feels especially pressured by his father, if his older siblings had managed to get his father's approval.  Of course if he's an only child then he's the only one there to get the pressure applied.

2) Destined for fatherhood or too busy saving the galaxy to settle down?

I think that depends on whether he ends up with Shepard, what that Shepard is like, etc.  With another turian if he were to actually fall in love with one?  Yeah, I can see him mellowing out some, becoming a father, maybe.  However I get the feeling that unless Shep romances him, he'll probably be alone for the rest of his life.  He just doesn't get close to many people.  With a Shepard who was willing to adopt or pick a genetic donor for the biological father?  He'd probably go with the idea because Shepard wanted it.  Do I see him as a good father, though?  Well, he'd be strict, I think, and may end up being a bit too much like his own dad for his personal taste.  Why?  Because he knows darn well he's made mistakes and wouldn't want his child to make the same ones.

3) Enjoys the rain?

Maybe if he's watching it from indoors.  He doesn't seem to like excessive heat or cold, and most real-world creatures including humans don't much care to be out in the rain, in part because it tends to get chilly.

4) Do you think he grumbled as much as the Krogan mechanic on Tuchanka while he was working on the Mako in ME1?

Not sure, but I doubt it.  It gave him something to do and probably kept Wrex off his back.  Besides, he loves calibrations.  I suspect it went more like an internal dialogue: "Wow, Shepard busted three of the tires this time!  I guess Tali will owe me on that bet we made... Wonder if I can convince Shepard to drive a little rougher next time?  I don't know why the others don't like her driving, it's fun.  Although actively looking for thresher maws is a little extreme..."

5) Do you think he's got a sniper rifle akin to Zaeed's Jessie? Maybe not as extreme, but a personal favorite?

Nah.  He loves all his rifles equally.  Too bad he no longer has that HMWSR X that my Shep bought him in ME1.  I guess it either got busted or sold for food money back on Omega, unless he's secretly hiding it somewhere in the main battery as his most treasured possession (possibly because Shep gave it to him rather than because it's such an awesome rifle).

Modifié par Brass_Buckles, 01 juillet 2010 - 11:22 .

[Jackalope]

So...I've been catching up on the new thread and been way too busy to post.  But you guys were talking about Garrus spoilers for ME2 and I have to share my funny story.  I didn't get any spoilers on ME2 until my brother called.

"Hey sis, you're not going to believe this.  Mass Effect 2.  You get to romance Tali!"
"Yeah, I bet you're happy about that.  She's cute."
"And you get to romance Garrus."
"GARRUS IS BACK?!?!"

Now, my brother sometimes gets bad intel, and I didn't take the Garrus thing seriously.  Then he shows up as Archangel.  And then he gets shot in the head.  I'm sitting here with my jaw dropped because I thought I did something wrong and I killed my turian.  I was about to call my brother to chew him out.  I actually didn't even believe him until the whole 'reach and flexibility' conversation.

Good intel for once.

Steel Dancer wrote...
I mini Virmired Morinth, fed her to the Swarm on the Long Walk. See, Jacob actually does have some uses!

Seriously, I'm laughing so friggin' hard at this sentence.  God bless Jacob.

[Nilfalasiel]

1) Is Garrus an only child?
I think he is, yeah. His dad sounds like he could've had very high hopes for him, as you would with an only son.

2) Destined for fatherhood or too busy saving the galaxy to settle down? 
I don't think so, at the very least, not anytime soon. My Shep wouldn't want children anyway, and I don't think Garrus would be too beat up about it. I agree that children as an automatic outcome for any couple is a bit too overdone.

By comparison with the other ME couples, I can definitely NOT see either Jack, Thane or Miranda wanting any children. Jack because well...she is, in many ways, still a traumatized child herself. Thane because he's not got long to live, and even if he were cured, considering how well he did with his son, I don't think he'd want to repeat the experience. Miranda would never do anything to compromise her alpha female role. Tali I could definitely see wanting lil'uns though. Jacob...yeah, I guess he would too. He seems to be dealing with his own daddy issues quite well, so I don't think it would stop him. Kaidan and Ashley would both want children too. Liara...considering how young she is, Shep would probably be long dead before she even considered it. With a future partner, maybe, if she tones down her ME2 avenger vibe.

3) Enjoys the rain? 
Going by the Palaven comparisons to Virmire, yeah, I'd say they do get rain there, of the tropical kind. I'm pretty sure Garrus would enjoy it, if only because it alleviates the heat.

4) Do you think he grumbled as much as the Krogan mechanic on Tuchanka while he was working on the Mako in ME1? 
While he was working on it? Maybe very quietly to himself, if it got too busted up. While whoever the designated driver was was driving it? He probably grabbed for the wheel after a while. For some odd reason, I always picture Kaidan driving

5) Do you think he's got a sniper rifle akin to Zaeed's Jessie? Maybe not as extreme, but a personal favorite?  Hmm...I'm not sure about this one. It could probably go both ways. Then again, I do think Garrus also values keeping his weapons in tip-top shape, and Zaeed's Jessie didn't look so hot after all those years. I don't think Garrus would be so sentimental as to cling to a weapon that was past its functional prime.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 01 juillet 2010 - 11:32 .

[lovgreno]

5) Do you think he's got a sniper rifle akin to Zaeed's Jessie? Maybe not as extreme, but a personal favorite?



Nah, Garrus isn't that creepy. He probably keeps the HMWSR X sniper rifle with double scram rail X and high explosive ammo X that killed Saren and several Geth Collosus in a safe box somewhere though. Damn that thing was brutal! There is probably some good reason why he can't still use it.

[Wolf Warden]

Hey folks, I'm writing a choose-your-own-path fanfiction involving Garrus having to pull his teammates out of the fire and depending on the reader's choices, characters will die. I do have a question though for this fine thread, are there any tips about writing Garrus' personality or "talking style"? I know he is witty but I figured perhaps somebody had some more specific tips or examples to look at.



Thanks!

[Bhatair]

He probably wouldn't handle the losses well, especially if he felt he could have saved them =/

[kglaser]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

I would never read the twilight series, i'm sorry fans. But even garrus wouldn't make me read that book....unless he was sitting next to me and making hilarious and obnoxious jokes about the plot and the characters.

Garrus gives Twilight the Spoony treatment!  I approve

[Wolf Warden]

Bhatair wrote...

He probably wouldn't handle the losses well, especially if he felt he could have saved them =/

One of the endings ends with Garrus having to mercy kill Tali Zorah because he had to use all the medical supplies available to treat shepard and she is dying of a massive reaction to the environment (i.e. mega-fever/sytem shock)

I figured he would potentially have a drinking problem/drug use if he lost Shepard/Tali/another best friend while on his watch...after the loss of his team, it would be a real blow to his mental health.

[kglaser]

WarlordFil wrote...

Hello beautiful Garrus thread!

I have been on the road a lot this past month, it's good to be back.

...Nihlus is a lovely welcome back for me I really hope someday they do some more expanded universe stuff with him, the way we got more Saren in the first novel.

OMG.  IT'S YOU.
I LOVE YOUR STORIES.
MARRY ME. <3

Ahem.  Sorry.  Nice day, isn't it?

And Wolf Warden, what a horrible thought...having to kill Tali so Shepard could live!  I would never want to make that choice or make anyone make it.  For me personally, that's *much* harder than the Kaidan/Ashley choice.

Modifié par kglaser, 02 juillet 2010 - 12:21 .

[Bhatair]

I would see him going more along the lines of throwing himself into his 'work' unhealthily, potentially distancing himself from others. Or getting reckless in an effort to prove to himself that he can do better, but not finding anything he does good enough.

[Pacifien]

kglaser wrote...

WarlordFil wrote...
Hello beautiful Garrus thread!

I have been on the road a lot this past month, it's good to be back.

...Nihlus is a lovely welcome back for me I really hope someday they do some more expanded universe stuff with him, the way we got more Saren in the first novel.

OMG.  IT'S YOU.
I LOVE YOUR STORIES.
MARRY ME. <3

Oh, it's that WarlordFil...

[Wolf Warden]

Anyway, if anyone has any good Garrus-fiction that keeps pretty close to character, let me know, I need something to study.

[Bugsie]

WarlordFil wrote...

Hello beautiful Garrus thread!

I have been on the road a lot this past month, it's good to be back.

...Nihlus is a lovely welcome back for me I really hope someday they do some more expanded universe stuff with him, the way we got more Saren in the first novel.

Oh hai!!!!

Yes it would be nice - even a book or something set pre ME1 or ME2 would be really good, it would be nice to expand on him considering all thats gone on.