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Little sisters can be pains in the proverbial - just ask my brother.
I like how at the end of the convo she asks him to bring her back something nice.....yep thats a little sister alright Posted Image

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Reptilian Rob

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Kim Shepard wrote...

It makes me wonder where his father is during all this though. As far as I know, he should be alive and working at C-Sec, possibly with a high rank. I guess even his job isn't enough to pay for it.

Well at the end of ME1, during the final conversation with Garrus, he tells you that his father didn't approve of him leaving C-Sec or applying for the Specters. He seems pretty upset with Garrus from what I gathered, so it would make sense that he's not talking to him as of right now. Which is jerkish on his part, because when a family member is sick, or your kid (in this case Garrus) is going through a rough patch the last thing you want to do is seem distant and displeased. 

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Bugsie

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Yeah Kim I thought the same, do you think at some stage he might be welcomed home?

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Hey, how's all my garrus affiliated friends doing?

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There's some Garrus for you! I also have some LotSB action in the works for you folks too.

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I understand why Garrus and his father aren't speaking to each other. My question was more about why Sol is so frustrated that Garrus isn't helping out with the money when that would normally be a job for the father - paying his wife's medical bills. It's probably very expensive, but I doubt Garrus could make anything near the kind of money his father would unless he really was working as a high-priced merc.

Yeah, I think Garrus will eventually be welcomed home. His family is pretty controlling, but they don't seem to be totally mean or anything like that. When Shepard's team saves the galaxy and they find out what he's been doing, I think they'll all be very proud of him.

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My question was more about why Sol is so frustrated that Garrus isn't helping out with the money when that would normally be a job for the father - paying his wife's medical bills. It's probably very expensive, but I doubt Garrus could make anything near the kind of money his father would unless he really was working as a high-priced merc.

Filial piety might just be a very important part of turian family culture, and supporting one's parents is considered the responsibility of all the couple's adult children. It's not unknown among us humans, after all.

Modifié par Christmas Ape, 11 septembre 2010 - 09:44 .


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Kim Shepard wrote...

I understand why Garrus and his father aren't speaking to each other. My question was more about why Sol is so frustrated that Garrus isn't helping out with the money when that would normally be a job for the father - paying his wife's medical bills. It's probably very expensive, but I doubt Garrus could make anything near the kind of money his father would unless he really was working as a high-priced merc.

Yeah, I think Garrus will eventually be welcomed home. His family is pretty controlling, but they don't seem to be totally mean or anything like that. When Shepard's team saves the galaxy and they find out what he's been doing, I think they'll all be very proud of him.

1) Good question, perhaps it has something to do with his father being distant or not knowing what's going on with the family?

2) Same vibe here, it seems his family is very close and it sounds like they want him back sooner than later. 

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Didn't Garrus arrange to help them with the Collector samples? I thought the trial position for that new drug was to get his mother in for the most promising treatment?

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Kim Shepard wrote...

I understand why Garrus and his father aren't speaking to each other. My question was more about why Sol is so frustrated that Garrus isn't helping out with the money when that would normally be a job for the father - paying his wife's medical bills. It's probably very expensive, but I doubt Garrus could make anything near the kind of money his father would unless he really was working as a high-priced merc.


I find it curious why Solana doesn't go to the father for assistance as well. What impression I got from Garrus in ME1 that the father was estranged somehow from the Vakarian family. Now with the dialogue between Solana and Garrus seemed to make it true.

But I wonder what's Garrus' father doing now? I mean, when Garrus talked about him, it was his father's fame as a highly-ranked C-Sec officer. Now, we don't know what rank or station he was in C-Sec by the time of ME1. I assumed that Garrus' father would be retired or doing another job altogether.

When ME1 first came out, I first thought that Executor Pallin was Garrus' father, but it's probably just some crackpot conspiracy theory on my behalf.

Modifié par Alexine, 11 septembre 2010 - 09:49 .


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ANDAIUS!!!!!!!!!!!

@Kim, I suspect that because his father is retired maybe that money is tight (even above a good retirement salary perhaps)

Modifié par Buggirl70, 11 septembre 2010 - 10:01 .


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Its possible Garrus' father somehow shamed his family in the eyes of the general turian populous. If he was well respected there probably wouldn't be an issue with money. Not to mention its a classic story of the father being hard on his son to compensate for his own failures.


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I get the impression medical treatment is very expensive, even for someone on a comfortable wage, and yes it could be that he and his father have this dynamic than in the end has made them estranged.

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Awww thanks... I am glad that you guys like my quick Garrus hug. I am sure that someone will do it better. My drawing skills are really terrible xD...

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Thanks for the info on the DLC :)

I was thinking about ME3 and how I think I heard from somewhere that if you have a romance with say, Kaidan in the first game and Garrus in the second, they might have some kind of fight over you in the third game?

I know I would love to hear Garrus smirk at Kaidan and say something along the lines of: "Shepard can be very ...flexible... with assignments"


It is possible. I can't wait for this tbh : ))) that is the main reason why I want Virmire Survivor dlc so badly after LotSB xD! My Shepy cheated Kaidan with Garrus. But I think he will just rant only on Shepard. Maybe it is the best in the end... you know what Kaidan did with turian who touched his "ex gf" xD or whatever she was to him...

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Should that Vermire survivor DLC actually happen im very much looking forward to Kaidens response. Ashleys response is predictable, given her personality she'll probably just blow up (pun not initially intended.) But Kaiden is generally so calm and tolerant, seeing him seething with rage would be delightfully out of character. I would imagine losing ones love not only to another, but also to one thats not the same species as you would push even the calmest man over the edge.

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I would be sooooooo happy if we got to meet Garrus' Family on Palaven in ME3. Or at least see some family pictures or something.



And female turians, that wish will never disappear.

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Forget Virmire Survivor DLC (seriously, I couldn't give a crap about Kaiden or Ashley, for reasons i wont get into here) - I want a Garrus bromance DLC.



This must exist in game, not just my mind!



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Re: Garrus' Family



I was always under the impression that his father was retired. I do also think their relationship might be strained. As for how Sol reacts...I believe they think the things they do because Garrus has led them to believe what they do. I think he either told them it was contract work, for example, or they came to that conclusion themselves and he just encouraged it. I don't blame Sol for being under the wrong impression. I also think its clear she does care for him, evidenced in her apologising for her frustration-driven outburst.



Also...Garrus must have been something of a ladies' man if Sol jumping to the "pleasure cruise" conclusion is anything to go by. Might have been her teasing him, but even then I would think it was partially serious. :P

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Christmas Ape wrote...
Filial piety might just be a very important part of turian family culture, and supporting one's parents is considered the responsibility of all the couple's adult children. It's not unknown among us humans, after all.


That's definitely the feeling I'm getting, sort of like he's a bad son for not rushing home or something.  Though it still doesn't explain where Dad is. 

The whole "bad turian" thing strikes me as a classic RPG-alignment case of Garrus being too "chaotic good" for what he sees as the "lawful good" party line.  Paragon Shepard encourages him towards more of a "neutral good" stance. 

#10869
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The dad might be there and just not mentioned, or he might be on assignment somewhere else. I do think he is retired from C-Sec...maybe his retirement can't cover the costs for his wife's treatment, so he needs to be the "breadwinner."

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Do you think it's possible that his dad is dead? That he died in the 2 years Shepard was dead? It would make a bit more sense out of Garrus's sister's sense of frustration at being left to take care of their mum and her poking him about his lack of a job and complaining about finances. It would also explain some of the extra frustration and the sense of failure that Garrus is carrying around with him.

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...You know, you're right. He very well COULD be dead. D:

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Gah I kind of hope I'm wrong since that's even more bad news and crap for him to carry around. Imagine feeling like you'll never be able to reconcile with your dad and make things right.



Now I need to go load ME2 and get Shepard to hug Garrus some more since I can't!!

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Hazzel42 wrote...

Gah I kind of hope I'm wrong since that's even more bad news and crap for him to carry around. Imagine feeling like you'll never be able to reconcile with your dad and make things right.

Now I need to go load ME2 and get Shepard to hug Garrus some more since I can't!!


:crying: That would just be horrible.  I hope Garrus can catch a break in ME3; poor guy...at least he has Shepard in my games. <3

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Oh great gods of Bioware - please hear our tears and send happy endings for Garrus in ME3!! :-P Or at least let us give him many, many hugs.

#10875
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I don't think his dad is dead. The Codex says, that all turians are expected to set aside personal stuff and serve for the greater good. We don't know his position within the turian society. Even though he's retired, he may as well be a Primarch and therefore pretty busy. Since Garrus is neither a member of C-Sec anymore nor in the military, everything he does, is not directly related to the turians and therefore doesn't serve any of their purposes. And he is not telling them either, so they think he's just out and about playing cowboy and indians.