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Xalena wrote...

Oh my God
And our Shepards get only some lousy headbump from Garrus Posted Image

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Prefer the Zombie-Garrus and Jacob one. It's not just romantic, it's necromantic!
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*gets coat*

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From the novels, Aria gets a cut from all merc groups on Omega. It's part of the deal she makes with them...they can operate there but Aria gets a cut, and if they scimp out, they face retribution from Aria's people. Eventually, had Garrus been able to continue, I'm sure he and Aria would have gone toe-to-toe since he would have impacted her business deals and the power balance.



I think the only reason Aria DIDN'T step in is because she knew the mercs were banding together to take him out anyway...that or she figured he wouldn't get far with his idealism. Thankfully it never came to that...because I don't think Garrus had any interest in filling a power-vacuum if he managed to somehow beat her...at least not in a way that would have been satisfactory to the remaining merc powers (which would have all attempted to fill that void, leading to much chaos I'm sure).

#11153
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Aria is really a master mind which is why I still think she may have had something to do with Sidonis. She can't possibly have wanted operations to be messed up by a vigilanti like Garrus. He's bad for business. If the gangs are busy fighting him then they aren't making her money. Plus it's not good for business if it looks like she might not have control. She doesn't need to act directly - a word in the right ear and suddenly things happen. So to me it makes total sense to take down the vigilanti before he gets too big for his boots and more people start getting ideas.

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I think Aria was most likely using Archangel as a way to show the gangs they weren't invincible and would wait until they were at their weakest to offer protection in exchange for a larger cut. Garrus could probably take down Aria, Wrex almost did it in a straight fight and Garrus would easily take his sniper and... boom, headshot!

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Well in a one on one fight sure I'd bet on Garrus over Arai, but she didn't get there by brute force alone. She thinks things through and works out all the angles and what buttons to push etc. She wouldn't let herself get put into a position where it was one on one and she had little chance of winning. Garrus is too straight forward a guy to be even half as devious as Aria. Way too principled and noble really.

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She's way too free with her information to Shep. I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop in 3 regarding her. Shep & Garrus may get to take her down anyway.

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Then again, knowing Shepards rep, Aria may have simply decided Shep would be another good tool to break the forces of the merc groups once and for all.

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Aria may have found some of the Broker's informants, but if you do Izz's quests for the packages you discover that the batarian by the stairs is also selling info behind Aria's back. (unless he's one of the people being shot in the videos, I don't remember) I don't think she's a criminal mastermind either, considering how easily manipulated she appears to be in the book.

I personally can't stand her, so I won't shed any tears if Shepard has to defeat her in ME3.

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I certainly felt that Aria's position allowed her to sit back and let the archangel/merc trouble play out, and that she would certainly step in if archangel was affecting her business. As it was, the mercs were supposedly taking care of any business, and there was no indication that directives came from her.



I still have yet to read retribution, i'm guessing there's a lot to pick up on from the novel?

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Just to add my two cents to the whole Aria thing. I'm quite confident that Shepard could beat Aria. Shepard beat a matriarch and her commado unit so I believe a group of hired thugs and an egomanical boss is nothing. To me Aria has gotton by by threats, intimadation and luck. Shes paraniod yes but also very overconfident. I mean she hangs out in the Afterlife club on a balcony. But i guess what I really dislike is what she did to Patriach. Despite their warlike personas, Krogan are respectable as warriors. Aria only has her hired muscle, and I believe that if she was didn't have her thugs then we would see something very different. Best thing to do is not get me started on Aria, I hate her more then the Illusive man. But as far as her being smart, she only has enough smarts to run Omega yet shes dumb enough not to expand. Not sure why but I believe the removal of Aria would be more of a benefit. I am holding out hope theres going to be some mission in ME 3 or some DLC that deposes Aria as queen of Omega. Shepard Could easily wipe out Aria and Garrus could easily help. Mordin as well. They both know the station well. Mordin would know about the districts i'm guessing and garrus the way the thugs and mercs move. So I say "Let's F**k with Aria."

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I have a feeling you might actually have to "F**k with Aria" in ME3 , only because there were quite a few NPCs from ME1 that you had to fight when you saw them again in ME2. Harkin,Nassana for example, so I can see some kind of confrontation with her down the road.

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I actually really like Aria's character, I find her very interesting. But just from her position in the universe, she's up there with the Shadow Broker, Illusive Man, and the Refund Guy on the infamous people. So I'm sure at one point they'll be f&^%ing with Aria, she's too important to the crime world to ignore.

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Castanea wrote...

I actually really like Aria's character, I find her very interesting. But just from her position in the universe, she's up there with the Shadow Broker, Illusive Man, and the Refund Guy on the infamous people. So I'm sure at one point they'll be f&^%ing with Aria, she's too important to the crime world to ignore.


Yay for killing Aria! Garrus shall rule the Omega! Just like... *spoilers* Liara took the SB job*spoilers*
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Not sure there's any reason to deal with Aria in ME3 - she's small potatoes in the grand scheme of things and can't really marshal a lot to help the cause. Only reason I can see is a side quest for Garrus and Shepard to fix it just because it would be cool :-) And Batman returns :-) Does that make Aria Joker or Cat woman then? :-P

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I'll be honest...I would not wish Aria's job on any of the ME2 squad mates, and certainly not Garrus. Would place him smack-dab in the center of the crime world's reticle and I doubt he would want the position either. He seems more the type who'd want to shake up the crime world, not take over its throne.

Edit: Aria can be Two-Face or Joker...but if there's a Cat Woman, let me know so I can send Shepard in to tear her face off. XD

Modifié par Eradyn, 14 septembre 2010 - 10:49 .


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I agree - Garrus wouldn't want to run a place like Omega. Not even sure he'd want the responsibility of cleaning it up totally - especially now that he has an even better cause to work on. Saving everyone from the Reapers is way more up his alley :-) Probably less paper work too :-P



Hmm Two-Face. Works for me :-)

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Eradyn wrote...

I'll be honest...I would not wish Aria's job on any of the ME2 squad mates, and certainly not Garrus. Would place him smack-dab in the center of the crime world's reticle and I doubt he would want the position either. He seems more the type who'd want to shake up the crime world, not take over its throne.

Edit: Aria can be Two-Face or Joker...but if there's a Cat Woman, let me know so I can send Shepard in to tear her face off. XD


Hmm... ok. but with these scars on his face he would be one scary badass boss of Omega : )))
Catwoman would be our Shepard helping the Batman Garrus. Didn't Catwoman and Batman were in relationship once in one of the Batman movies :wub:

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I like Aria, but I don't she is on a level with TIM and she certainly isn't on a level with the Shadow Broker. She finds one of the Shadow Broker's agents if I recall and taunts the agent that she knows Omega and then it goes on to point out that she has yet to find the other agent. Then there is all that video footage of her. Then there is all thathappens in Retribution. Aria is tough, but I think Shep could take her out. I don't know that Garrus could. Given the right set of circumstances I think he might be able to, but I don't know that for a fact. It would take a lot of maneuvering, but Garrus also proved he was good at reading the criminals and pushing their buttons. He "got under their skin" so they would "come charging right into our kill zone." He didn't just outshoot them. He outsmarted them. He set traps for them. He hit them from unexpected angles. He kept his identity secret and had them getting all paranoid and second guessing each other. Even Aria doesn't know as much as she would like about him. He outmaneuvered them in more than one way. Garrus is no joke. I dunno. I think he might could do it. I don't think he would want her position though. I think he'd hate that. But I think he would leap at the chance to take her out.

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But it wouldn't be necessary for either Shepard or Garrus to run Omega, would it? If Aria was killed the Council would probably take advantage of the power vacuum and the chaos to take control of the Terminus Systems. It would give them resources and opportunities for colonization, not to mention that it would finally make the colonies on the edges of the Traverse safe.

Which reminds me, are the Terminus Systems going to be involved in the battle against the Reapers? I mean, the Alliance and the Council didn't believe the threat existed, but according to the comic Aria knew about the Collectors but it didn't seem like she was preparing to defend Omega against them in case of attack.

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The ultimate weapon against the Reapers!

http://www.eclectech...mindcontrol.php

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Killing Aria would do more harm than good. She keeps the criminal element on Omega in check and without her it would quickly descend into a bunch of small warlords trying to take her place.

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No, vuvuzelas are the ultimate weapons against the reapers....and garrus.

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Tinfoil is easily carried into battle and it's recyclable! And, why on earth would I want a weapon *against* Garrus?

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No not against garrus. Have garrus use a vuvuzela against a reaper.

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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

No not against garrus. Have garrus use a vuvuzela against a reaper.


This combined with the combat drone method mentioned in the Tali thread earlier.  It cannot fail.  It is the key to victory.

And I don't think killing Aria would fix anything unless you had a powerful, competent person in mind to replace her.  Garrus obvioulsy wouldn't do that and neither would Shep, replace Aria I mean.  But I still don't think that would stop Garrus from trying to take her out.  Let's face it.  The man doesn't always think ahead like that.