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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I can't make up my mind about Thane on multiple levels and I will leave it at that. I do wish he was in his own game. I think I'd like him a whole lot more if I didn't always have to pick him or Garrus. He gets overshadowed a lot so I don't consider him as thoroughly as I might otherwise.


This is true. Competing with Garrus is a tough job for anybody, but especially when that somebody genuinely has potential as a character, as Thane does. I think his romance suffers a little by comparison: Garrus has a more established relationship with Shep, doesn't have any heavy emotional baggage (ie. dead wife he can remember perfectly any time he wants) and isn't dying. I'm giving Thane his own Shep, but really, his romance is just so damn sad...Posted Image

I think that dogs conversation with Alistair is hilarious. He has some other kinda ribald things he says too like when you start hitting on the duelist chick in the Pearl. I don't know how anybody could think he doesn't have a sorta filthy mind at times because he does, which just makes him all the funnier to me because then he likes to pretend he doesn't or else he gets all flustered about it.


He does crack some dirty jokes, but he usually does this with the Warden, doesn't he? Not with Zev. That's really the most jarring part about that convo for me: Alistair isn't usually that easygoing with Zev.

As for the joke being an implication about the Warden...well, it is just a joke. And Alistair is nothing if not a joker. I'm sure he never honestly compares the Warden to a...female dog.

I also don't think Garrus would want to be a Spectre. I think he has pretty much had it with official channels. That being said, he would make an awesome Spectre if he had such an inclination. I'm also not set on him leaving. I never meant it that way. I mean only that him leaving under certain circumstances wouldn't bother me that bad and I think there is a lot of storytelling potential in it. And as for dark and angsty stories and them being unpalatable, I think they often sound horrible until you actually play them, but then they awesome once you get through them if they are done well. Just think about ME2. Would you really trade stuff like the aircab conversation for anything? And yet that was brought about by some horribly angsty, dark crap involving betrayal and near death and scarring and murder and Garrus blaming himself and a lot of other melodramatic stuff. The next story doesn't have to be that way to make me happy. It's just that I think that is one plausible way to take his story that could have some awesome and intense moments in it. Okay, I'll stop kicking this dead horse now.


Ain't nothing wrong with dark and angsty. It's an essential part of Garrus' development in ME2, and it wouldn't have been the same without it. Where it'll start being a problem is if angst is all there is. Considering what we've learned in LotSB, I'd say Garrus is about due for a huge hug.

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Nilfalasiel wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I can't make up my mind about Thane on multiple levels and I will leave it at that. I do wish he was in his own game. I think I'd like him a whole lot more if I didn't always have to pick him or Garrus. He gets overshadowed a lot so I don't consider him as thoroughly as I might otherwise.


This is true. Competing with Garrus is a tough job for anybody, but especially when that somebody genuinely has potential as a character, as Thane does. I think his romance suffers a little by comparison: Garrus has a more established relationship with Shep, doesn't have any heavy emotional baggage (ie. dead wife he can remember perfectly any time he wants) and isn't dying. I'm giving Thane his own Shep, but really, his romance is just so damn sad...Posted Image

I think that dogs conversation with Alistair is hilarious. He has some other kinda ribald things he says too like when you start hitting on the duelist chick in the Pearl. I don't know how anybody could think he doesn't have a sorta filthy mind at times because he does, which just makes him all the funnier to me because then he likes to pretend he doesn't or else he gets all flustered about it.


He does crack some dirty jokes, but he usually does this with the Warden, doesn't he? Not with Zev. That's really the most jarring part about that convo for me: Alistair isn't usually that easygoing with Zev.

As for the joke being an implication about the Warden...well, it is just a joke. And Alistair is nothing if not a joker. I'm sure he never honestly compares the Warden to a...female dog.


I disagree, but we should go argue in the Zev or Al thread on the DA boards. ;)

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I also don't think Garrus would want to be a Spectre. I think he has pretty much had it with official channels. That being said, he would make an awesome Spectre if he had such an inclination. I'm also not set on him leaving. I never meant it that way. I mean only that him leaving under certain circumstances wouldn't bother me that bad and I think there is a lot of storytelling potential in it. And as for dark and angsty stories and them being unpalatable, I think they often sound horrible until you actually play them, but then they awesome once you get through them if they are done well. Just think about ME2. Would you really trade stuff like the aircab conversation for anything? And yet that was brought about by some horribly angsty, dark crap involving betrayal and near death and scarring and murder and Garrus blaming himself and a lot of other melodramatic stuff. The next story doesn't have to be that way to make me happy. It's just that I think that is one plausible way to take his story that could have some awesome and intense moments in it. Okay, I'll stop kicking this dead horse now.


Ain't nothing wrong with dark and angsty. It's an essential part of Garrus' development in ME2, and it wouldn't have been the same without it. Where it'll start being a problem is if angst is all there is. Considering what we've learned in LotSB, I'd say Garrus is about due for a huge hug.


I second (or third, I lost count) the call for Garrus hugs.

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Sialater wrote...

I second (or third, I lost count) the call for Garrus hugs.

Hell yes.  +1 to this.  I just hope Garrus hugs aren't thwarted by collision detection and/or clipping issues like the ME2 love scene is said to have been (see also: why we just got a head bump).

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ciaweth wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I second (or third, I lost count) the call for Garrus hugs.

Hell yes.  +1 to this.  I just hope Garrus hugs aren't thwarted by collision detection and/or clipping issues like the ME2 love scene is said to have been (see also: why we just got a head bump).


I approve of this statement. B)

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I know who would make a great turian female voice: She who did Matriarch Eaythas voice. Imagine if Aeytha had been a fem turian... Oh yeah.



More hugs for Garrus of course, both the romance and bromance kind of hugs.

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lovgreno wrote...

I know who would make a great turian female voice: She who did Matriarch Eaythas voice. Imagine if Aeytha had been a fem turian... Oh yeah.


Claudia Black?

Morrigan would be proud. :happy:

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And don't hate on the drells!  I think Thane is equally sexy, actually...it'd be hard for me to choose between Garrus's and Thane's voices alone.  On a pure liquid sex meter they'd both be at a lvl 10 for me.  Also, I think Feron in LotSB is voiced by Yuri Lowenthal (the Prince of Persia!) and...gaaah...I love that man's voice.  Posted Image  Hell, I'd dry hump everyone's voice in ME!



*high five*

I've noticed the one trait all my VG crushes share is an almost criminally sexy voice.

Garrus, Thane, Carth/Kaidan, Loghain, Bao-Dur...  and now Feron.   *thud*

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lovgreno wrote...

I know who would make a great turian female voice: She who did Matriarch Eaythas voice. Imagine if Aeytha had been a fem turian... Oh yeah.

More hugs for Garrus of course, both the romance and bromance kind of hugs.

Claudia Black could pull it off, but she's already doing Aethyta and Xen.  Brandon Keener actually mused about this a while back, and thought Kathleen Turner's voice would be good.

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Xsause wrote...

lovgreno wrote...

I know who would make a great turian female voice: She who did Matriarch Eaythas voice. Imagine if Aeytha had been a fem turian... Oh yeah.


Claudia Black?

Morrigan would be proud. :happy:


Whoa, really? That was her? I recognized her as Daro'Xen, but not Aethyta. If yes, then that's definitely awesome.

Sialater wrote...

I disagree, but we should go argue in the Zev or Al thread on the DA boards. ;)


Alternatively, we do have a DA thread over in Clan V.

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Nif: Meet ya there. ;)



I don't think Black did Aethyta, did she? She's credited? (I didn't recognize her without the British or Australian accent she usually gives her characters)



Anyway... Garrus voice... ~swoon~

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Sialater wrote...



I don't think Black did Aethyta, did she? She's credited? (I didn't recognize her without the British or Australian accent she usually gives her characters)


She did.

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So we don't go too off topic here

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An ode to Garrus' voice.

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I also think angst without end for Garrus would suck. I don't want that. I just think ultimate victories are ten times as awesome if you had to walk through hell to get there first.

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^And some comedy relief now and then so the hell won't get too boring. I think ME is the kind of story where everyone should be made fun of now and then, including Garrus and Shepard of course.

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lovgreno wrote...

^And some comedy relief now and then so the hell won't get too boring. I think ME is the kind of story where everyone should be made fun of now and then, including Garrus and Shepard of course.



One of my favorite Garrus/Shep moments is during Thane's loyalty mission.

Bailey: When you erased a file, it would say, "I delete data like you on the way to real errors."
Garrus:  That's pretty extreme, Commander.
Shepard:  Laugh it up, Garrus.


I require more of this ME3.  And something romance specific would be icing.

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goofygoff wrote...

lovgreno wrote...

^And some comedy relief now and then so the hell won't get too boring. I think ME is the kind of story where everyone should be made fun of now and then, including Garrus and Shepard of course.



One of my favorite Garrus/Shep moments is during Thane's loyalty mission.
Bailey: When you erased a file, it would say, "I delete data like you on the way to real errors."
Garrus:  That's pretty extreme, Commander.
Shepard:  Laugh it up, Garrus.

I require more of this ME3.


She'd give him crap about "Archangel," he'd give her crap about the VI and suicide missions....  They REALLY need more of this. 

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Sialater wrote...

goofygoff wrote...

lovgreno wrote...

^And some comedy relief now and then so the hell won't get too boring. I think ME is the kind of story where everyone should be made fun of now and then, including Garrus and Shepard of course.



One of my favorite Garrus/Shep moments is during Thane's loyalty mission.
Bailey: When you erased a file, it would say, "I delete data like you on the way to real errors."
Garrus:  That's pretty extreme, Commander.
Shepard:  Laugh it up, Garrus.

I require more of this ME3.


She'd give him crap about "Archangel," he'd give her crap about the VI and suicide missions....  They REALLY need more of this. 


Mordin: Archangel is term from human religion used for high ranking angels.
Garrus: Is that so?
Shepard: Mhm, and they had blond, curly hair and wore white bed covers as skirts.
Garrus: I bet they used to delete data on their way to real errors too.

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Shepard: His gun blew up in his hands. Perhaps he should have spent more time calibrating it. Wouldn't you agree Garrus?

Garrus: Perhaps he was constantly interupted while calibrating by a gossip hungry commander.

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J4N3_M3 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

goofygoff wrote...

lovgreno wrote...

^And some comedy relief now and then so the hell won't get too boring. I think ME is the kind of story where everyone should be made fun of now and then, including Garrus and Shepard of course.



One of my favorite Garrus/Shep moments is during Thane's loyalty mission.
Bailey: When you erased a file, it would say, "I delete data like you on the way to real errors."
Garrus:  That's pretty extreme, Commander.
Shepard:  Laugh it up, Garrus.

I require more of this ME3.


She'd give him crap about "Archangel," he'd give her crap about the VI and suicide missions....  They REALLY need more of this. 


Mordin: Archangel is term from human religion used for high ranking angels.
Garrus: Is that so?
Shepard: Mhm, and they had blond, curly hair and wore white bed covers as skirts.
Garrus: I bet they used to delete data on their way to real errors too.



Perfect!  ROTFLMAO!

Harps... don't forget the harps.

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I like the level of humor in ME2. I think they got it about right. I want them to keep up the current level, but no go too much past it.

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You know, it is pretty funny to watch the old trailers for Mass Effect 2 and see Garrus just standing beside Shepard at parts despite them trying to keep him a surprise :P




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It's interesting reading the old posts...so many nay-sayers back then. XD We were sooo rabid back then, tearing into game files, dissecting the trailers (especially the blur trailer where we discovered Garrus' face). Those were good times...tough, too, wondering about the fate of our beloved turian.

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Haha. I was just reading through a ME thread on another message board I frequent. Since I was going in spoiler-free, it was the first time I read the pre-ME2 speculation and spoilers.



I'm so glad I never caved, because Archangel's identity was a complete surprise for me and so was the fact that Garrus could be romanced.



It's squee-worthy moments like that that make the agony of waiting in the dark worth it.

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Eradyn wrote...

It's interesting reading the old posts...so many nay-sayers back then. XD We were sooo rabid back then, tearing into game files, dissecting the trailers (especially the blur trailer where we discovered Garrus' face). Those were good times...tough, too, wondering about the fate of our beloved turian.


It really didn't help that the launch trailer seemed to imply him and Tali were going to die.

@goofygoff: Yeah, Kaidan, Garrus, and Thane have such sexy voices *swoon*

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