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[Eradyn]

Garrus does "own" the "I'll be here if you need me" line...others use it, but he takes it up a notch and it comes to symbolize certain facets of Garrus' character. Especially if you watch the "let's kick puppies and set them on fire"-type painful Garrus dumping scene, where you dump him at the very end of the romance arch.



Which I will NOT be rewatching because I am floating on a fuzzy cloud of happiness for having finally dreamed about our beloved turian. ^-^

[Twilight_Princess]

Bit off topic but I rather post this question here rather than the main forum in case I sound a bit stupid This forum is far more forgiving. The digital deluxe verison of mass effect 2, basically I wanted the collectors edition during the release but couldn't get a copy now this is being sold somewhere for a very very cheap price and being a complete freak I want the goods! First what exactly is it, do you get a bunch of codes for the ea download manager or something? Also I was told you can use the codes from the digital version for your xbox(armor weapon) but how do you do that? Lastly I'll be getting it from an american seller, so since I'm in the UK there won't be any region issues with the download right? In need of a computer wizz please.

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 18 septembre 2010 - 04:16 .

[Aricle]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

J4N3_M3 wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I agree that is an awesome picture of a shirtless turian, but that pic is actually of Kuril.

"to work from" xD who cares if it's Kuril. Kuril was RAWR too....too bad I had to kill him.....every time.....dammit Bioware.

But-but, I'm a pedantic, officious ****!  I have to correct every stupid little thing!

If you hadn't made the correction, I would have because I, too, am a pedantic, officious ****.

[Aricle]

As far as the ending goes, I would like Garrus and Shepard to go to Palaven together and see his family. I can't quite see them talking about getting married with the folks (except in the uber-fangirl romantic part of me- and if it was well-done, I'd be happy). This is an area where fanfics have clouded my own opinion or influenced my opinion before I had one. Somehow, I get this impression that Garrus' mother is out of the picture, which I have read in quite a few fanfics. I don't see any reason for this to be true, however.

I think that there needs to be a moment of reckoning where Garrus is on an equal footing with Shepard and his helping her would show that to be the case. A satisfying conclusion to the trilogy and romance would be an incident involving a detail from your Shepard's specific past (Akuze, Mindoir, Elysium, Torfan, etc) in which Garrus helps you. These Shepard-specific pasts are one of my favourite parts of the game and for Garrus to encounter Shepard's past and help her resolve it in some way both connects Shep's story to Garrus' and evolves their relationship. My first Shep, Chani, would like to go back to Earth with Garrus, show him where she grew up under the guise of something else (a mission, whatever), then drop the reserve. (This is specific to Chani, though, who wouldn't admit up front that she worked it so that she could show him her old stomping grounds). I could see them walking and talking, her showing him where she first learned to shoot, to fight, places she remembers. 

I want them to *talk* about whatever happens from her past before and after, the way that she talks to him about Sidonis. I want her to be struggling with something and him to be guiding her through it, both publicly and privately.

Modifié par Aricle, 18 septembre 2010 - 07:07 .

[J4N3_M3]

Aricle wrote...

As far as the ending goes, I would like Garrus and Shepard to go to Palaven together and see his family. I can't quite see them talking about getting married with the folks (except in the uber-fangirl romantic part of me- and if it was well-done, I'd be happy). This is an area where fanfics have clouded my own opinion or influenced my opinion before I had one. Somehow, I get this impression that Garrus' mother is out of the picture, which I have read in quite a few fanfics. I don't see any reason for this to be true, however.

I think that there needs to be a moment of reckoning where Garrus is on an equal footing with Shepard and his helping her would show that to be the case. A satisfying conclusion to the trilogy and romance would be an incident involving a detail from your Shepard's specific past (Akuze, Mindoir, Elysium, Torfan, etc) in which Garrus helps you. These Shepard-specific pasts are one of my favourite parts of the game and for Garrus to encounter Shepard's past and help her resolve it in some way both connects Shep's story to Garrus' and evolves their relationship. My first Shep, Chani, would like to go back to Earth with Garrus, show him where she grew up under the guise of something else (a mission, whatever), then drop the reserve. (This is specific to Chani, though, who wouldn't admit up front that she worked it so that she could show him her old stomping grounds). I could see them walking and talking, her showing him where she first learned to shoot, to fight, places she remembers. 

I want them to *talk* about whatever happens from her past before and after, the way that she talks to him about Sidonis. I want her to be struggling with something and him to be guiding her through it, both publicly and privately.

Personally, I wouldn't want that. I have the past of my Shepard's sorted out and another going back just wouldn't fit in there anymore. -.- None of my Earth-born Sheps learned their "fighting" on the streets. At least, not the fighting, that's important.

As romantic as it sounds but I don't really want Garrus to go back with any of my Sheps to their past. Not really....
I do like the helping idea though, so if going back to a past event, it should be military related....Torfan, Akuze or Elysium. Something like this....

[Aricle]

I really want to see Earth in the future, so having Shep and Garrus do that would be a wish-fulfillment for -me-. I know that that is outside of the scope of ME!



The way I've roleplayed my newest Shepard, her past is very important to her since her experience in ME1 caused her to break from her Alliance Spacer military 'follow rules' credo. She has had a 'crisis of faith' since her faith was in the Alliance and she ended up feeling betrayed by them. By the time ME1 ends, she's closer to what Garrus was when they met and he is more like she was initially. If there's little or no collateral damage, she'll break rules to get things done faster. For this Shepard, something from the past would help her reconcile things in the present.



I have to play DA:O. Everything I hear about it makes me think that it would be something I'd like, with all of the sensitivity to details.

[Steel Dancer]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Bit off topic but I rather post this question here rather than the main forum in case I sound a bit stupid This forum is far more forgiving. The digital deluxe verison of mass effect 2, basically I wanted the collectors edition during the release but couldn't get a copy now this is being sold somewhere for a very very cheap price and being a complete freak I want the goods! First what exactly is it, do you get a bunch of codes for the ea download manager or something? Also I was told you can use the codes from the digital version for your xbox(armor weapon) but how do you do that? Lastly I'll be getting it from an american seller, so since I'm in the UK there won't be any region issues with the download right? In need of a computer wizz please.

Hyrule, everthing you get with the Collectors Edition is listed here:  http://masseffect.bi...nfo/collectors/ 

The only in-game thing you'll get are the Collector Armour and assault rifle.

So far as I can tell, the US and EU codes don't have any exclusivity as people from the EU have mentioned buying the various US exclusive store item codes from ebay (blackstorm projector, etc) and applying them to accounts made in the EU.

Oh, the rather nice steelbook you get with the CE version? You'll forevermore be scared out of your wits every time you remove a disc from it, as the damn things feel like they'll break whenever you take it out of the 'book

Modifié par Steel Dancer, 18 septembre 2010 - 08:36 .

[Aricle]

I haven't figured out what to do with Eleni yet in ME2 ( just started). She is planned to stay faithful to Kaidan yet Garrus is somewhat of her conscience, since she motivated him to question her actions, by doing things as he once would have done them ('after everything you told me, Shepard....'). He is now more or less what she wants to be but cannot justify -or sleep at night in so doing- knowing what she knows about Cerberus, etc.



Is your newest femShep still in 2183?

[BirdieShepard]

mrsph wrote...

Since the romances seem to be developing a sort of character arc for the love interests how do you guys think Garrus' will end?

I think everyone (well, most people), irregardless of whether they romance Garrus or not, want to meet Papa Vakarian. Palaven is a place I definitely want to see (as well as Earth) in ME3, hopefully we'll bump into his sister/father as an added bonus!  (And I changed the colour of a slight spoiler (if you haven't got LotSB yet) in the gap).

I always imagined the ending of the FemShep/Garrus arc as Garrus becoming a Spectre and cleaning the universe of it's scum with Shepard for the rest of their days (especially since he's grown out of caring what his father thinks) :3

Modifié par BirdieShepard, 18 septembre 2010 - 08:55 .

[J4N3_M3]

Aricle wrote...

I haven't figured out what to do with Eleni yet in ME2 ( just started). She is planned to stay faithful to Kaidan yet Garrus is somewhat of her conscience, since she motivated him to question her actions, by doing things as he once would have done them ('after everything you told me, Shepard....'). He is now more or less what she wants to be but cannot justify -or sleep at night in so doing- knowing what she knows about Cerberus, etc.

Is your newest femShep still in 2183?

This is the same with my Kara. It's reversed roles...throughout the whole game she was pure renegade like I said before, except for Garrus and Tali. Those were the ones she truely cared about. Well and Garrus and Chakwas. But everone else was someone she didn't know how to handle and she had no strength left to handle them anyway. It is interesting because in ME1 she completely pushed Garrus towards C-Sec. And for some reason I had that in mind when plaiyng ME2. He became Kara's voice of reason.

[Nilfalasiel]

Aricle wrote...

Somehow, I get this impression that Garrus' mother is out of the picture, which I have read in quite a few fanfics. I don't see any reason for this to be true, however.

Well, considering what we've seen in the LotSB dossier...she could be.

On other topics, I can't see Jacob and Garrus being bros. Knowing about the cuttlebone comment just makes it impossible in my head. I know Jacob only says this if you dump him for Garrus, but still. If he can make uncalled-for personal comments about the alien LIs like that (he does it for Thane too), that just spells "anti-alien streak" to me.

About the idea of Garrus making a rallying speech, I agree that this wouldn't work with all the LIs. Can you imagine Thane or Jack making a speech? Yeah, no. However, in a perfect world, I'd imagine every LI getting their own personal moment like that: Garrus gets to make a speech perhaps, but the other LIs could also get some event that's unique to them. Of course, that would probably be completely unrealistic, considering the sheer amount of stuff BW needs to cram into ME3 already, but it would probably be the fairest way to handle something like that.

But I've come to share a "Garrus thinks he's invincible" moment:

My ThaneShep is currently doing his LM, and I've just cleared the first YMIR mech, the one after the bridge that you lower. When it appeared, Garrus went to cover behind some crates, but then the mech got close and started flanking him. I ordered him to back up and take cover next to my Shep. But Garrus being Garrus somehow decided that kneeling RIGHT IN FRONT of the mech, completely out in the open, was appropriate cover.

And you know what? He lived to tell the tale.

Probably because Tali was shooting the mech in the back and my Shep was frantically spamming Warp (it still had its armour layer...) and then Energy Drain from behind her own crate.

Crazy, crazy turian. *shakes head*

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 18 septembre 2010 - 09:45 .

[Aricle]

J4N3_M3 wrote...

Aricle wrote...

I haven't figured out what to do with Eleni yet in ME2 ( just started). She is planned to stay faithful to Kaidan yet Garrus is somewhat of her conscience, since she motivated him to question her actions, by doing things as he once would have done them ('after everything you told me, Shepard....'). He is now more or less what she wants to be but cannot justify -or sleep at night in so doing- knowing what she knows about Cerberus, etc.

Is your newest femShep still in 2183?

This is the same with my Kara. It's reversed roles...throughout the whole game she was pure renegade like I said before, except for Garrus and Tali. Those were the ones she truely cared about. Well and Garrus and Chakwas. But everone else was someone she didn't know how to handle and she had no strength left to handle them anyway. It is interesting because in ME1 she completely pushed Garrus towards C-Sec. And for some reason I had that in mind when plaiyng ME2. He became Kara's voice of reason.

Garrus' disregard for rules came from a place of impulsivity, both my Shepards thought, plus a streak of anger. That is why they both shaped him to act less hastily. Eleni would like to be able to follow the rules and be more Paragon as she used to be- yet she knows that sometimes a greater evil is averted by a 'smaller' evil in the moment but doesn't forget that even after the deed is done (sacrificing Kate Bowman to capture Balak). For her, it's shades of grey in being able to rest just a bit easier at night. (She could rest a bit easier knowing Balak couldn't endanger another world despite the death of Kate, for example.)

I could see her being attracted to Thane for his doing what he sees as needing to be done while still praying for their souls. That is the kind of thing she would do.

I posted our little Shepard exchange here over in Clan V's Shepard Thread b/c of the Archivist/Notetaker in me- that way, we can talk about it more there, too.

[Liec]

Aricle wrote...


On other topics, I can't see Jacob and Garrus being bros. Knowing about the cuttlebone comment just makes it impossible in my head. I know Jacob only says this if you dump him for Garrus, but still. If he can make uncalled-for personal comments about the alien LIs like that (he does it for Thane too), that just spells "anti-alien streak" to me.

I don't know, of all the squadmates I think Garrus could get along with Jacob the best. They are both military men with daddy issues who have a disregard for the rules and left their respective jobs as a result, they hate politics and like tinkering with their guns. Hell, they even like the same woman. 

[J4N3_M3]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

On other topics, I can't see Jacob and Garrus being bros. Knowing about the cuttlebone comment just makes it impossible in my head. I know Jacob only says this if you dump him for Garrus, but still. If he can make uncalled-for personal comments about the alien LIs like that (he does it for Thane too), that just spells "anti-alien streak" to me.

I didn't mean they'd be bros to each other....to my MaleSheps Garrus is one bro and Jacob is a bro too xD they're not bros for one another.

Modifié par J4N3_M3, 18 septembre 2010 - 10:07 .

[Eradyn]

I really don't think Garrus is impulsive so much as he is passionate, driven, and confident of his ability.

[Nilfalasiel]

Liec wrote...

I don't know, of all the squadmates I think Garrus could get along with Jacob the best. They are both military men with daddy issues who have a disregard for the rules and left their respective jobs as a result, they hate politics and like tinkering with their guns. Hell, they even like the same woman. 

Barring Tali, I think Garrus actually has the most potential for getting along with Thane. Another big point in Jacob's disfavour is the fact that he's Cerberus. Having seen what happened in ME1, I'm not sure either Garrus or Tali could ever trust Cerberus officers completely.

As for liking the same woman, I think non-romanced Jacob still carries a torch for Miranda, actually. They do have a past together, and the fact that she's the one who brought up the mission with his father shows that she also still cares, to a certain extent. The way she says "there was a time when it would've mattered to you" (or something along those lines), it sounds like there's something like regret in her tone.

It's time for my ThaneShep to have the sparring convo with Garrus...Must. Not. Give. In. To. Temptation.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 18 septembre 2010 - 10:27 .

[Aricle]

Stand strong, Nilf!

Eradyn: passionate is probably a better choice of words for Garrus; I do think of him as impulsive from his wanting to take down Saleon's ship over the Citadel airspace. Although, he had thought about it and still wanted to do it- my Shep's approach was that he needed to take the time to think a bit more before doing things. She wants him to stay passionate but think about some of the consequences.

Modifié par Aricle, 18 septembre 2010 - 10:42 .

[Eradyn]

Aricle wrote...

Stand strong, Nilf!

Eradyn: passionate is probably a better choice of words for Garrus; I do think of him as impulsive from his wanting to take down Saleon's ship over the Citadel airspace. Although, he had thought about it and still wanted to do it- my Shep's approach was that he needed to take the time to think a bit more before doing things. She wants him to stay passionate but think about some of the consequences.

Heheh, he ended up being right, though.  He did think it through and I do believe that shows he isn't impulsive...even if his conclusion is different from what you would want him to do.  I can see his perspective: Why think about something some more when you've already thought about it and reached your conclusion? Especially when dealing with someone like Dr. Saleon, who was in the midst of an escape...not much time to think about it beyond the conclusion you'd already reached.  And he himself said all they had to do was disable the ship.

He makes tough calls a lot of people may not have the stomach for, and he doesn't care to humor politics (which is what kept C-Sec from taking action), but he at least thinks it through beforehand. ^^

[Hazzel42]

On a somewhat different topic, does anyone else think that perhaps if Garrus had never met Shepard he might have ended up like Warden Kuril?