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[silentstephi]

There's a cubic butt ton to catch up on, GAH.  I think I'm awake.  Honest. orz...

/cracks knuckles
This is in no particular order -
Did y'all do the debate team in high school er something?
Jebus.

Right, stuff - Tali/Legion stuff:  I renegaded that whole conversation.  I know my Shep's thoughts on this are look, if you want to get your home world back, fine, just NOT YET damn it, we've got Reapers on the way.  Go put all those damn non combatants on some other world and then GROW and PROSPER and then COME BACK LATER, when you're STRONGER.  Gah.  Stop looking for an I Win button.  If the Reapers win, it won't matter anyway!

Overlord - Yes, I renegade a lot in game, and while I could logically see how keeping David in the program could help... Shep's human.  She's got a heart.  And really... David was a bad choice.  The rest of the project could only go down hill from there.

Renegades and consticancy - They are DELICIOUSLY not!  I love that Renegades follow a path that can look a bit illogical, especially because it's based on gut reactions and not really looking at the bigger picture, just the picture right now.
Probably one of my favorite aspects of being a Renegade (that and I get to beat up bad guys hrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.)  But again, I play like to play Renegade Not Stupid.  There's many flavors of both paragon and renegade out there.

Garrus and betrayal - This would take EPIC PROPORTIONS.  Like... yea.  Siding with the Reapers would be it.  If someone some logic arguement was made to side with the Reapers and you had that choice, that, I could totally see Garrus turning his back on you for.  Simply because while sure, he trusts you and your decisions... I think at that point... it's too much (especially if you've paragon'd him a bunch.  Keep telling a man he's going against his nature and he's going to eventually break something.)

Manly men and biting - Wait... did you just compare Garrus to Edward? 
All that aside... looking at what sells on the rack for romance fiction (or more appropriately, what we've got on the shelf at the library) those types of stories sell.  The Twilight thing I think was due to some mind reboot on a lot of people, the other stuff (bodices rippers, etc) because, well, yea, it's what a lot of women like.
Let me be the first to say that I know for a fact that it's not EVERY woman.  I lol'd at the radio yesterday because there was some random survey done on thousands of women in the British Isles about their average shoe closest and how the average woman is obsesses with shoes.
I lol'd hard.
I own 2 pairs of shoes.  That are like 2 yrs+ old.
Not an average woman, I guess.  But reguardless, I didn't take womens studies, I don't consider myself to be a feminist, just a realist (with a pesky dash of optimism.)  People want what the want, and sometimes it makes no damn sense what so ever.

I... think that's all I wanted to catch up on, right?
OH THE ABSCESSING THING.
Wth?  I've owned cats for like over 15 years now... I've never had a cat bite abscess...  (I've been scratched and bit a lot, my Ralphie is nick named Satan for a reason. Oo)

Totally off to work now. 

Modifié par silentstephi, 02 juillet 2010 - 04:39 .

[REMspace]

Very interesting!

I was interested to "catch Garrus falling down the platforms" and "Garrus to catch Shepard while he/she leap toward the Normandy", but I thought the game randomly chooses... Thanks for the tip!

[ciaweth]

Pacifien wrote...

<a bunch of awesome stuff>

Pacifien, thank you for doing all this SCIENCE. 

[Pacifien]

REMspace wrote...
Very interesting!
I was interested to "catch Garrus falling down the platforms" and "Garrus to catch Shepard while he/she leap toward the Normandy", but I thought the game randomly chooses... Thanks for the tip!

That's actually what got me started on the whole project, because people would be like "I caught Grunt? :huh:" Plus, I could just imagine Shepard hanging on for dear life, Zaeed goes to pick her up, and she snaps "Wait? Where's Garrus? He's just going to leave me hanging here?!"

Poor Thane fans, he simply won't pull Shepard up into the Normandy unless the other squadmate is dead.

[Bhatair]

Pacifien wrote...



Poor Thane fans, he simply won't pull Shepard up into the Normandy unless the other squadmate is dead.

"You were behind me? Oh, I must have forgotten."

[Pacifien]

Bhatair wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
Poor Thane fans, he simply won't pull Shepard up into the Normandy unless the other squadmate is dead.

"You were behind me? Oh, I must have forgotten."

Guess there really was something to Jacob's dislike of Thane.

Issues with Thane led to one of the funniest misadventures I've seen someone have during a suicide mission, though.

So who here tried to orchestrate the suicide mission so only specific squadmates survived the end?

[Xsause]

"Wouldn't you rather be lost in the memory of someone's skin against yours, someone's tongue in your mouth, than turning around to save one of your only friends and possible love of your life?"

[Collider]

@pacifien: I have. The suicide mission guide on this forum (by ecael) may (not sure, need to take another look) a clarification on the hold the line thing. It's not decided by squad mates total, or squad mates total alive, it's decided by how many squad mates are holding the line (and of course, who is holding the line).

Since my F!Shepard does some of the opposite choices that my main Shepard does, a few people died (on purpose). For the most part only people who don't really have overt branching paths. I didn't kill Garrus, for example, because he's awesome because he has the branching path of paragon or renegade. In this playthrough I went the paragon route, my main went the renegade route.

Modifié par Collider, 02 juillet 2010 - 06:33 .

[Bhatair]

Yup, I'm working through a playthrough now where the only survivors will be Garrus, Jack and Legion.

I don't need no one else but my best bro, my girl, and my trophy bot.

[Sialater]

Bhatair wrote...

Yup, I'm working through a playthrough now where the only survivors will be Garrus, Jack and Legion.
I don't need no one else but my best bro, my girl, and my trophy bot.

No Tali?

[Bhatair]

Sialater wrote...

Bhatair wrote...

Yup, I'm working through a playthrough now where the only survivors will be Garrus, Jack and Legion.
I don't need no one else but my best bro, my girl, and my trophy bot.

No Tali?

No Tali.
Whatever it is that makes her so popular I don't see it >.>

[Kim Shepard]

Wow, there's a lot to respond to all of a sudden. Most important, I don't think Garrus would betray Shepard for any reason. I just can't imagine why it would happen.

Also, I'm starting to think that some of the Shepards I've planned out, not even just the Renegades and EvilShep, take more of the "evil" Renegade choices than anyone else's Shepards here... I've watched the youtube vids of Overlord, and a lot of my Shepards would take the Renegade choice - probably close to even with the Paragons. MainShep would do it too. (By the way, Collider is right about Shepard's Renegade response. Shepard thinks the project is important, even if he/she might not agree with it.)

Alexine wrote...

I don't think Shepard will truly be the total evil villain. That means butchering people for no reason. Renegade Shepard butchers people if it's the quickest way to get to a goal.

This is brilliant. xD And so right. EvilShep approves!

I don't have much to say on the quarian/geth debate right now... That's actually one of the hardest things for me to figure out my Shepard's opinions on. They don't all have an opinion about it yet.

It's unfortunate that squadmates have to be killed off for Thane to catch Shepard, although that thread with everyone dying and Thane still not catching Shepard was hilarious. (I think you need at least two squadmates for Shepard to survive, right?) I'm taking a break from the Thane catching and working on other combinations. The Shepard who will romance Thane might have to deal with him not catching her, since I can't really think of a possibility where she would have an unloyal squadmate to die. At least one good thing comes out of this though - Garrus will catch Shepard if Thane is the other squadmate.

[Pacifien]

Collider wrote...
@pacifien: I have. The suicide mission guide on this forum (by ecael) may (not sure, need to take another look) a clarification on the hold the line thing. It's not decided by squad mates total, or squad mates total alive, it's decided by how many squad mates are holding the line (and of course, who is holding the line).

It's an average score based on how many squadmates are there. It needs some modification, I'm not sure it works entirely as listed. The goal is to reach an average of 2.0. Less than a C and you FAIL. To varying degrees. Each loyal squadmate gets +1 to their base score. There are three tiers.

Oh wait, I forgot to include something in my previous post about Garrus's role in that mission...  *goes to edit*

[Steel Dancer]

Pacifien wrote...
So who here tried to orchestrate the suicide mission so only specific squadmates survived the end?

You mean people haven't ever done that?

Previous playthrough (fortunately not that long ago): People I decided to off were:
Samara - Died on Omega. (oops. Guess that means I picked up Morinth)
Thane - Impaled. Crunchy.
Morinth - Swarmed. (To reiterate: Jacob has uses.)
Zaeed - Second team leader. Apparently so good at it the Collectors decided to take him down at all costs.
Miranda - Held the line. (Cerberus Survival tip #32: Don't be nasty to Jack in front of a Sole Survivor. Makes 'em all twitchy like..)

[Pacifien]

Steel Dancer wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
So who here tried to orchestrate the suicide mission so only specific squadmates survived the end?

You mean people haven't ever done that?

Only in the name of science.

[Neria Rose]

Arcian wrote...

GARrus is the greatest bro to have ever been conceived in a video game, ever. Just needed to get that off my chest.

Also, contributing:

Haha, that's awesome!!

[Sialater]

Pacifien wrote...

Steel Dancer wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
So who here tried to orchestrate the suicide mission so only specific squadmates survived the end?

You mean people haven't ever done that?

Only in the name of science.

I've never done it and I probably won't.

[Neria Rose]

Sialater wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Steel Dancer wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
So who here tried to orchestrate the suicide mission so only specific squadmates survived the end?

You mean people haven't ever done that?

Only in the name of science.

I've never done it and I probably won't.

I would, but the only squadmate (or former, for now, I suppose) I really want to kill isn't killable.

[silentstephi]

Pacifien wrote...

Steel Dancer wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
So who here tried to orchestrate the suicide mission so only specific squadmates survived the end?

You mean people haven't ever done that?

Only in the name of science.

I've toyed with the idea of having a xenophilliac/xenophobic save...
but just toyed with it.
I'll probably get around to it eventually.
Atm, I have my "perfect" pt with the main Shep (yes, I went back and saved Tali, but in my fics, Tali didn't make it.  Surprises are interesting!) and the emo Shep has a mostly perfect pt (half the crew died /sniffle).

If I eventually get around to making a Man Shep... I'll probably make him my xenophille.  And make another shep that's a xenophobe.  Just need to work on creating the right Shepard (my Beta shep took a lot outta me!)

Nyaaaaaaaaaaaar.

[Kim Shepard]

In my MaleShep playthrough, he'll let the crew get killed off by waiting too long on purpose and get Miranda killed off. Jacob will be the only Cerberus agent to survive. (I was originally planning to bring Miranda to the Human Reaper battle, but thanks to the suicide mission guide and squadmate catching research, I think I came up with an idea that'll work better. )

Garrus will never die in my playthroughs. He's just so awesome, all of my Shepards have at least one reason to like him.

Neria Rose wrote...

I would, but the only squadmate (or former, for now, I suppose) I really want to kill isn't killable.

Would this former squadmate be... Liara? xD I'm glad she helped bring Shepard back to life and all, but she trapped my MaleShep in her romance, so I think he'd support this.

[Bhatair]

Kim Shepard wrote...


Garrus will never die in my playthroughs. He's just so awesome, all of my Shepards have at least one reason to like him.

Agreed. No matter how much of a sociopath one of my Sheps may be I don't think I'd ever kill off Garrus, the game just wouldn't be the same without him.

Neria Rose wrote...
I would, but the only squadmate (or former, for now, I suppose) I really want to kill isn't killable.

Would this former squadmate be... Liara? xD I'm glad she helped bring Shepard back to life and all, but she trapped my MaleShep in her romance, so I think he'd support this.

I hope we get a chance to 'pick up the spare' on the Virmire survivor. Ugh, I just hate them now. I don't want anyone who is too blind or emotional to see the bigger picture on my side. Most of my Sheps are renegade, so the whole moral stand in the face of galactic annihilation doesn't sit too well with them.

Modifié par Bhatair, 02 juillet 2010 - 10:43 .

[Steel Dancer]

Fortunately for Kaiden, the only romance I've got involving him is with my ultra-paragon, so she will try to see where he's coming from as well as staying faithful to him. Wont stop her from giving him a real hard time about Horizon though (dammit, she taught him better than that!).

[Kim Shepard]

Even my EvilShep likes Garrus. He values loyalty above all else in squadmates, and Garrus is the only one who never questions him.

Most of my Shepards would think of Horizon like a betrayal, so I hope there will be at least one option to show that in ME3. A lot of them wouldn't want Kaidan/Ashley back on the Normandy - they don't trust him/her anymore, their friendship is dead now, or because "no one stabs them in the back, no one." (I like that quote to Udina from the first game. xD) I've mentioned before that they're not very forgiving.

[Collider]

I would never get Garrus or Tali killed. For one thing, they've been with Shepard both games, so it would be suck to lose either of them (for me), IMO. Anyways, I really only have two Shepards. My main didn't lose anyone, but my F!Shepard lost 3 people.