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[Giggles_Manically]

I was concerned when reading about how brutal he was in some of his kills on Omega during LOTSB.

I knew he was harsh but damn ODing a batarian by pouring red sand in all his eyes?

[ciaweth]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I was concerned when reading about how brutal he was in some of his kills on Omega during LOTSB.
I knew he was harsh but damn ODing a batarian by pouring red sand in all his eyes?

Our boy has a mean streak.  (Or one of his teammates did.)

[Sialater]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I was concerned when reading about how brutal he was in some of his kills on Omega during LOTSB.
I knew he was harsh but damn ODing a batarian by pouring red sand in all his eyes?

I still need to get that. 

What on earth would set Garrus off like that?  Since he rarely does anything coldly...

[JulianP]

ciaweth wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I was concerned when reading about how brutal he was in some of his kills on Omega during LOTSB.
I knew he was harsh but damn ODing a batarian by pouring red sand in all his eyes?

Our boy has a mean streak.  (Or one of his teammates did.)

So his bloodthirsty combat lines actually are how he really gets, huh.  He's a bit out of control when worked up!  Gee, that had better be a teammate

[TTTX]

I'm just going to add a new topic, I don't know if you ever talked about this but here goes.

if you didn't romance Garrus for what ever reason would it be a good idea him and Kasumi would become a couple (I know that Kasumi has eyes on Jacob but let us pretend that Kasumi finds Garrus more interesting).

[Hazzel42]

JulianP wrote...

ciaweth wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I was concerned when reading about how brutal he was in some of his kills on Omega during LOTSB.
I knew he was harsh but damn ODing a batarian by pouring red sand in all his eyes?

Our boy has a mean streak.  (Or one of his teammates did.)

So his bloodthirsty combat lines actually are how he really gets, huh.  He's a bit out of control when worked up!  Gee, that had better be a teammate

It seems to be a bit of an eye for an eye style of justice where he was probably also trying to send a message to the criminals as well as eliminating them.  Kind of a treat you as you treated others kind of thing.

[TheSweetGirl]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I was concerned when reading about how brutal he was in some of his kills on Omega during LOTSB.
I knew he was harsh but damn ODing a batarian by pouring red sand in all his eyes?

That batarian must have done something really bad for Garrus to do that. O.O HOLY MOLY

Garrus! Stop watching Jack Bauer  bad influence.

[Hazzel42]

TTTX wrote...

I'm just going to add a new topic, I don't know if you ever talked about this but here goes.

if you didn't romance Garrus for what ever reason would it be a good idea him and Kasumi would become a couple (I know that Kasumi has eyes on Jacob but let us pretend that Kasumi finds Garrus more interesting).

I'm not sure Garrus would approve of Kasumi since her job is being a thief and he's quite opposed to criminals.  The fact the Kasumi really seems to enjoy her lifestyle wouldn't endear her to Garrus at all.  I'm sure he'd turn a blind eye to her activities during the mission but I can't seem him ever being anything more than polite to her.

[Sialater]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I was concerned when reading about how brutal he was in some of his kills on Omega during LOTSB.
I knew he was harsh but damn ODing a batarian by pouring red sand in all his eyes?

Garrus has a very "eye for an eye" outlook.  He tends to like to punish people by hurting them in the same way they hurt other people.  "I'd harvest your organs first, but we don't have the time."  He thinks it's fair and balanced.

*shiver* I heard that line last night.  Damn, BK sounds like ICE when he says it.

[SystemUser]

Buggirl70 wrote...

I never even paid any attention to Garrus's hideout on Omega, I can't believe I missed it, and I've played it so many friggin' times!!

Obviously Garrus doesn't have cushion rage!

An other great british comedy.
Really if i had more experience with garry's mod and faceposer, i had made an garrus version of it.

Modifié par SystemUser, 20 septembre 2010 - 06:18 .

[ciaweth]

I wouldn't call Garrus bloodthirsty; he's not a sadist. He doesn't get pleasure from his eye-for-an-eye thing, it's just part of his sense of justice, as I see it. He's a turian, remember. Turians are hardcore, with a different sense of mercy than humans have (not less than, just different). His actions don't stick out so badly when you view them in light of the reports of turian actions during the Taetrus troubles (see Cerberus Daily News).

[Sialater]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Sialater wrote...
*shiver* I heard that line last night.  Damn, BK sounds like ICE when he says it.

Does it make me a sick, twisted person that my reaction is more like *swoon* than *shiver*?

Maybe.... my shiver wasn't one of revulsion....:innocent:

[ciaweth]

Anyone got a link to a vid of that line?

[EffectedByTheMasses]

mrsph wrote...

Garrus seemed to be going for ironic kills.

Poetic justice. Yet another reason why Garrus is awesome.

[JulianP]

Garrus is not generally bloodthirsty, no, but when Paragon Shepard gets concerned about that ruthlessness that was coming out in the loyalty quest, I don't think it was just a cultural difference.

[Chiyeko]

In a line from Sins of a solar empire: "Vengeance is a cruel mistress."



Garrus is often serving her in the name of justice, now the end results may be questionable, but they are deserved on both his missions in ME and ME2 the target more than deserved to die and would have gotten capital punishment (or if that is not in ME life sentence inw hich case killing them is cheaper)



I just like that he can be cold as ice when needed and warm and caring when needed to. Unlike others who are often always the same.

[Liec]

Tootles FTW wrote...

Haven't caught up on the 10+ pages I've missed, but I just ran across this video that shows what happens with Garrus in ME1 and ME2 if you stick with mostly neutral options in your playthrough.  Didn't know if this was shared before, but since it's Garrus dialogue I'd never heard (however brief) I thought I'd post.

Apparently C-Sec asks for him to come back post-Normandy destruction, but he turns them down?  Interesting.

I thought it was a little ambiguous whether or not Garrus was in the Normandy when Shepard got spaced, but after watching that it seems clear that he was there if recruited. 

J4N3_M3 wrote...

on a different note, this came through the Cerberus Daily News on Saturday and I found it quite interesting. 

In a disturbing discovery, two hikers recently found a mass grave on the planet of Uresium. Investigatorshave now confirmed over 430 skeletal remains of turian soldiers dating back to the Krogan Rebellions of 749 CE. Recent seismic activity on Uresium exposed the grave, which had been overgrown by local flora. Turian authorities have begun work with local colonists to ensure the integrity of the site and its remains. Chief archaeologist and historian Salur Darikun released a statement saying, “We will ensure that these sons and daughters of the Turian Hierarchy are returned home and recognized for their supreme sacrifice.” Darikun hopes to begin transporting the remains to Palaven early next week, with a laying-to-rest ceremony planned for later in the month. 
Source: CDN

Here's a thought. During Garrus' recruitment mission if you ask him how he got in that situation he says something like 'his feelings got in the way of his better judgement'. What if he got so overwhelmed because he took the time to try and give his team a proper burial instead of retreating immediately? It's not the first time there's been something in the CDN about turians and respect for the dead, and it'd explain the body bags.

[JulianP]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

JulianP wrote...

Garrus is not generally bloodthirsty, no, but when Paragon Shepard gets concerned about that ruthlessness that was coming out in the loyalty quest, I don't think it was just a cultural difference.

I agree with this.  Turians are pragmatic.  They are big on not letting your emotions get in the way of your better judgement so Garrus backs down because he recognizes that he isn't really out for justice in that moment.  In that moment, he is out for revenge.  I don't think he suddenly thinks that Sidonis deserves to live.  I think he realizes that he himself cannot shoot him because his reasons for wanting to shoot him up to that point were more emotional than logical.  Same with Saleon.  He doesn't rethink shooting Saleon because "killing is wrong."  He rethinks shooting Saleon because he realizes he was mostly interested in shooting Saleon because Saleon got away form him.  In other words, it would be wrong for him to kill them in the emotional state he was in at that moment.

That's definitely a wonderful thing about Garrus: if given time to cool off, he's reflective enough to be honest about his own motivations. 

Garrus' occasional need to go and personally punish the unworthy is, I think, tied to this.  He's a guy who ultimately will take the time to examine and judge himself. He takes on the responsibility of punishing himself when he feels that he has done wrong.  When other people do wrong and are let off the hook by both the lawful authorities and their own brazen consciences, he hates it.  Seeing that Sidonis does in fact punish himself helps him to back down from the need to do it for him. 


@ Liec:

What if he got so overwhelmed because he took the time to try and give
his team a proper burial instead of retreating immediately? It's not the
first time there's been something in the CDN about turians and respect
for the dead, and it'd explain the body bags.

You know, I was wondering about that and the lengths he went to get those bodies.  Not a drop of blood on his floor, either.

Modifié par JulianP, 20 septembre 2010 - 09:26 .