Calibrations: Garrus Love and Turian Discussion
#12051
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 04:27
#12052
Guest_mrsph_*
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 04:32
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#12053
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 04:36
And on a separate note: I can has fun writing fanfic? Whee!!
#12054
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 04:37
#12055
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 04:40
kglaser wrote...
And Collider, independent of Voice, badassery is definitely present Check.
*Places another check, just to reiterate the badassery*
While some poor souls might be deaf to the utter drool-worthiness of Garrus' voice, his embodiment of badassery and general "awesome comeraderie-ness" more than make up for it.
Modifié par Eradyn, 23 septembre 2010 - 04:40 .
#12056
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 04:48
And those comments that Garrus comes up with - total win. He has the best snarky/funny lines.
Modifié par Hazzel42, 23 septembre 2010 - 04:49 .
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Guest_Raga_*
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 04:49
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#12058
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 04:54
Hazzel42 wrote...
KG if you do write some more fanfic stuff please tell me where!!
And those comments that Garrus comes up with - total win. He has the best snarky/funny lines.
Actually, I've been stunned by how easy it was once I got started...hopefully, I will post the results tomorrow night
And I will PM you
(It's not done yet)
#12059
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 05:16
I also found the Predators from the Predator movie hawt. I only sat through all the Alien vs. Predator movies just to drool over them xD Yah, I'm weird like that.
#12060
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 05:23
I have decided that i like you.J4N3_M3 wrote...
Badassery is always hawt! Combined with sweetness always makes for DAWWWWW!!!!!! Turians are just ....i don't know, it's hard to describe. Garrus and Nihlus are still the hottest looking turians, closely followed by Sidonis.
I also found the Predators from the Predator movie hawt. I only sat through all the Alien vs. Predator movies just to drool over them xD Yah, I'm weird like that.
#12061
Guest_Raga_*
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 05:55
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#12062
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 05:56
TheodoricFriede wrote...
I have decided that i like you.J4N3_M3 wrote...
Badassery is always hawt! Combined with sweetness always makes for DAWWWWW!!!!!! Turians are just ....i don't know, it's hard to describe. Garrus and Nihlus are still the hottest looking turians, closely followed by Sidonis.
I also found the Predators from the Predator movie hawt. I only sat through all the Alien vs. Predator movies just to drool over them xD Yah, I'm weird like that.
The first movie was cool. When he takes that alien claw and marks her cheek that was sooooo
Hence why I have a thing for Turians. :innocent:
#12063
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 06:18
Same for my Shepard. She would not just stand around silently like the squadmates.Eradyn wrote...
Only girl he's making happy in MY games is Shepard, darn it. XD Some female turian tries to lay her talons on him, she's gonna learn just why he "respects her more than anyone else in the galaxy." >
I'm surprised no one made banners for this yet. xD "I support asari repellent in ME3." "I support "hands off" Renegade Interrupts in ME3." Or something like that.Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
I would also like it if the LIs didn't just stand there when varoius asari are rubbing up on you. I support asari repellent in ME3.
I avoid any conversations I need to avoid to make it seem like this is not the case. I don't care if the choice is there, but it needs to stay just that - a choice. My Shepards are straight. Everyone else's Shepards can have whatever preference they want. (Even if the option isn't in-game, just imagine it! xD I doubt my MainShep will ever get together with Saren in-game.)And actually I've kinda gotten the impression that Bioware is hinting that femshep is bi, like it or not. Just as they seem to be trying to say dudeshep is straight, like it or not. If they are doing this, it really sucks.
Also, I agree with Collider about the voice. I think all turian voices are cool, and Garrus' is too, but the reason why I like Garrus is all in his character.
#12064
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 06:50
Badassery?
Nah. It's all about Garrus' head gear.
Modifié par aznsoisauce, 23 septembre 2010 - 06:53 .
#12065
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 06:57
Hazzel42 wrote...
Absolute best present Garrus can give Shep - himself in a box wearing a bow :-)
Quite FTW Hazzel, I am singing that song right now...
#12066
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 06:58
#12067
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 07:10
Oh, snap! He does.Kim Shepard wrote...
You mean the visor that he won't even take off for the romance scene? xD (The strangest thing is, he will take it off when he's wearing a light armor helmet in ME1.)

And I would be lying if I said he was completely unappealing in ME1. So mark me down for "badass" as well, I guess.
#12068
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 07:16
...Poor Garrus. He's not the first badass character I've called "adorable." xD
#12069
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 08:55
#12070
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 08:58
Although I think it's sweeter to imagine that he was simply so nervous that he completely forgot about it.
Backing up a few pages, I do find turians physically attractive, for much the same reasons as others have stated: they manage to look both slender and strong at the same time (thin waist + large upper body), they have that predatory vibe (strong legs; standing on their toes suggests speed; small, sharp eyes), the mandibles are a great way of expressing emotion, and the rest of them is just cool. Garrus gets major bonus points for personality and, of course, The Voice. Also known as: Aural Honey...and various other names that would probably be more fitting for the NSFW thread
Garrus a romantic? The bumbling kind, then. Not the "poetry reading, scrapbook making, hand-holding and smooching in public" kind. I'd be out the door faster than you could blink if he were like that. But the kind that buys a shiny new rifle and hides it in Shep's locker, and then acts embarrassed about it? D'awwww...
As for FemShep being bi, it doesn't bother me per se; but I can see the whole "FemShep is bi, but MaleShep isn't" angle. I'd say it's largely the asari's fault, but they ARE asari. They are bi (for all intents and purposes, without the whole "genderless" excuse), so it makes sense that they'd hit on FemShep and MaleShep alike. Also, if only for Samara's LM, FemShep has to be at least able to convincingly pretend that she's bi. It's a storyline requirement. But it's probably more because Shep won't budge or say "hands off" that strengthens the "bi" vibe, but the lack of this option bothers me as much for a MaleShep as for a FemShep. Had there been a male-looking equivalent of asari, you'd be hearing the same concerns about MaleShep being bi, I'm sure. Still, I can see why straight female gamers might have a bit of an issue with that.
TheodoricFriede wrote...
if I may comment on the whole femshep being bi thing, I think that its solely because its more "acceptable" for Mass Effects demographic to have a bisexual female then it is to have a bisexual male.
I'm pretty well convinced that most Shepards who played a femshep and romanced Liara did it because they were guys who like seeing lesbians.
This is probably true. There's still a majority of male gamers, and, simply put, guys find lesbians hawt, regardless of how little sense it makes (no, they're not doing it to turn you on, they really do prefer girls, and if you were to "get in on the action", they probably wouldn't like it!). Well, to be precise, they find bi girls hawt, but they usually get classified as lesbians.
Meanwhile if male Shepard and Kaiden were together, those same people would probably bring the anti-gay thunder.
Sadly, this is probably also true. I've seen some very violent backlashes against Zevran, so it wouldn't surprise me if something like this happened if it were suggests that MaleShep could also be bi.
Personally if male Shepards were bi, I may actually do a maleshep/Garrus playthrough. Honestly, I don't know what it is about Garrus...but I would totally be his....
Atta boy!
Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 23 septembre 2010 - 08:59 .
#12071
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 08:58

Much fun guaranteed on missions that require headgear to be worn.
Re: the visor in romance scene.
I think it's a dev oversight originally. They thought Garrus looks badass wearing it and didn't think it'll look weird in an intimate scene. No complaints, though, it's fun to theorise why he's wearing it now...
Re: Bisexuality...
DAO has male bisexual characters, so I don't see why the expected audience of ME would be given different character models. I think DAO and ME pretty much have the same target group, and that is largely male players. It's a bit silly to get all prude and exclude male homosexuality from ME when it's already been done in other BioWare games.
So, I'm guessing it has to do with the asari. They're supposed to be two-gendered after all. If this is the strategy BioWare used, it didn't work perfectly, though, because the asari are considered female by most gamers. Even if in the ME universe they're both male and female.
Modifié par nekhbet, 23 septembre 2010 - 09:07 .
#12072
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 09:12
#12073
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 09:13
I try to keep Garrus in armor that matches his colors - blue with black or silver. Nihlus armor is awesome though.
@Nilfalasiel: That's a good explanation for Garrus wearing his visor (the heart rate thing and forgetting to take it off both work).
I didn't mind it with Zevran at all. He basically asks if it's okay for him to continue flirting. I like that. It needs to be done for more characters now.
@nekhbet: That's adorable. xD The helmets remind me of tight hoodies and hats too. Those pictures also look like the hats some turians wear in ME2 that are really similar to the helmets.
#12074
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 09:35
nekhbet wrote...
Re: Bisexuality...
DAO has male bisexual characters, so I don't see why the expected audience of ME would be given different character models. I think DAO and ME pretty much have the same target group, and that is largely male players. It's a bit silly to get all prude and exclude male homosexuality from ME when it's already been done in other BioWare games.
Actually, I'm not sure about it being the same target group for ME and DAO. ME is much more directed towards casual players and FPS-players. DAO is a lot more hardcore, stat-tinkering, high-fantasy RPG. In fact, I'm willing to bet that the backlash against Zevran occurred from people who usually play shooters and ME, and who decided to try DAO, then got icked by the "sleazy gay elf", as they so tactfully put it.
Also, I'll point out Jade Empire: the romance options were not equivalent in that. Silk Fox and Sky were bi, but Dawn Star was a straight female. There was no straight male equivalent, so male players got one extra LI option. That's telling me that they tend to pay more attention to the male players. So I can see them being concerned about what part of the male demographic would be accepting of a gay romance and what part wouldn't be, and figuring out that the part that wouldn't be would be more likely to play ME than either DAO or JE.
So, I'm guessing it has to do with the asari. They're supposed to be two-gendered after all. If this is the strategy BioWare used, it didn't work perfectly, though, because the asari are considered female by most gamers. Even if in the ME universe they're both male and female.
Mono-gendered, ne? The Codex states "asari have one gender".
#12075
Posté 23 septembre 2010 - 09:41
I think that the games are different enough that the demographics would be (at least viewed as) different. Consider: The Mass Effect is science fiction, which while still "nerd-ish" tends to attract all manner of people. I'm sure quite a few people bought ME2 expecting Gears of War. (also a fantastic game but i needed an example) That games demographic tends to be a bit less tolerant of peoples sexual preference.
Now consider dragon age. A fantasy rpg likened to the old Baulders Gate games. Its a much smaller demographic, with a different type of gamer. Bioware was taking much less of a risk with Zeveran because I'm pretty sure even they didn't expect the game to sell as well as it did. I would bet in Dragon Age 2 we don't see any bisexual male characters because the game will reach a mach larger demographic.
Its a difficult thing for me to describe so hopefully i said something semi-coherent.
Of course maybe my making these judgments I'm no better then the people I condemn.





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