Well, what if there really were such foxes walking around in real life? It would make it a little different. And that doesn't really show anything graphic. It just makes you feel warm and fuzzy. I think those other vids are racier.
Calibrations: Garrus Love and Turian Discussion
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Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 03:41
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We don't know if he watched them before or not and I would assume he would have no problem with asari/whatever relationships because it seems to be the norm in galactic culture. The point, of course, being that Garrus never eyeballed another species in that way before Shepard, I think, is a pretty solid assumption since he flat-out states it.
Now...other women of his own species...definitely. He even boasts of one of his sparring "sessions."
...Which makes me wonder how it would play out if we met his family or Ms. Flexibility while on, say, Palaven.
Depends on what you mean by "appreciate." Sure, someone can "appreciate" acts of love and romance between others and get warm fuzzies from there being something good in the world. Then there's "wow, I can really appreciate the [insert sexually-pleasing-and-attractive-body-part] on that asari." Which would imply a sexual attraction and not just the appreciation one might have for, say, famous wall-art or a sculpture.
Now...other women of his own species...definitely. He even boasts of one of his sparring "sessions."
...Which makes me wonder how it would play out if we met his family or Ms. Flexibility while on, say, Palaven.
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I can't see why he couldn't appreciate a
show regardless of the species involved. Only example coming into my
head at this moment is Disney's cartoon Robin Hood (sorry I know it's a
bit lame) where all the characters are animals. Enjoying seeing 2 foxes
romance each other doesn't mean that you have a thing for
foxes.
Depends on what you mean by "appreciate."
Sure, someone can "appreciate" acts of love and romance between others and get warm fuzzies from there being something good in the world. Then there's "wow, I can really appreciate the [insert sexually-pleasing-and-attractive-body-part] on that asari." Which would imply a sexual attraction and not just the appreciation one might have for, say, famous wall-art or a sculpture.
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The Council species seem rather progressive - I can't recall any cross-species pairings being spoken of negatively... You see the salarian out with his asari daughter on Illium, and the turian and his asari wife/girlfriend in the souvenir shop on the Citadel, and in their dialogue it seems a complete non-issue.
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It just occured to me: you know who should have an epic reaction to FemShep/Garrus? Udina! Now that it's in my head I am dying to see this happen in ME3! Political sh!tstorm, indeedy.
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Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 03:47
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My point is that Garrus never thought about being with another species before or actively eyeballed them. But he's familiar enough and cool enough with the idea in theory that I think he could develop sexual attraction for one if the personality element was there without too much fuss. He doesn't have any baggage to get over here. That's my point.
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Hannah Shepard's reaction is what I want to see.
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Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 03:48
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Sorry Raga I know the example sucked but my addled brain couldn't think of something to demonstrate that it's possible to enjoy watching something (even something very racy) without necessarily finding the species/actors attractive. Only other thing I can think of is watching a film like Shortbus and enjoying it even though you're not a gay male (but yes I know - they are at least all human).
Edit: I think I'm trying to say the same thing as you only not very well
Edit: I think I'm trying to say the same thing as you only not very well
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Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 03:51
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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
My point is that Garrus never thought about being with another species before or actively eyeballed them. But he's familiar enough and cool enough with the idea in theory that I think he could develop sexual attraction for one if the personality element was there without too much fuss. He doesn't have any baggage to get over here. That's my point.
One could be okay with the idea of that being accepted through society as a whole and not develop their own sexual attraction in said regard.
I think Garrus was pretty solidly in the "turian women" camp considering his shock at Shepard's suggestion and the subsequent conversations with him leading up to the romance culmination scene. Not to say that the conversation wasn't laden with other issues and layers and implications and such, because it certainly is, but Garrus doesn't strike me as the sort of individual who would just jump from "oh, nice alien wall art" to "oh, I want that." The only clear reason he was willing to try such a relationship with Shepard was because she is Shepard. So it doesn't seem to be something he would do, even if he found another species aesthetically pleasing...and I don't know that he would find them pleasing in a sexual way all things considered.
Granted, I could be wrong, but at this point there really isn't much evidence to say otherwise...it's all definitely in the realm of speculation and personal interpretation.
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Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 03:53
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I don't think we'll ever see MomShep or DadShep, because the logistics of matching the appearance of the parents with a customized FemShep seems hard (if not impossible) to do. I'd like to get an ME1-style comm conversation with her, though, rather than a one-way email. Or, if they do persist with the emails, I wish they allowed you to respond a la Alpha Protocol where you can choose between 3-4 responses and the person replies in kind.mrsph wrote...
Hannah Shepard's reaction is what I want to see.
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Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 03:56
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To me it's more like."Shepard" specifically and then he remembers past "nice alien wall art" and puts two and two together. I think most of his nervousness doesn't have much to do with whether or not he finds Shep attractive. I don't think that's a big hurdle for him. It either doesn't matter to him or he overcame it very easily. Sort of like I did with turians. I go from "turians are kinda cool looking" to "garrus is awesome in personality" to "garrus is hawt!" to "turians are cool looking because they are hawt!"
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Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 04:00
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...I always assumed his nervousness to be him wanting to not screw things up with Shepard, a person he desperately wants things to go right with. As I've said before...he's definitely attracted to Shepard...at the very least it's on the level of personality. I'm sure he would eventually come to find Shepard physically attractive as well...certainly if they're sleeping together. Doesn't mean he would find other humans, or asari, or whatever, sexually attractive. Thing about the Shep/Garrus romance is that it's about Shep and Garrus in particular. It isn't other humans...he's not attracted to other humans. He's just interested in Shepard.
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Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 04:15
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I don't think he has a pronounced sexual attraction to aliens at any point. I guess what I mean is that I don't see how he could possibly find only femshep physically appealing. I mean, I can't just find one turian physically appealing and ignore all the others. By finding the one appealing I have opened a monster can of worms. Doesn't mean I want to pursue them, so I find multiple ones appealing in some fashion but only one is actually worth pursuing. Many are appealing. Only one is "attractive" in that sense. If you've once conditioned yourself to find some physical trait appealing I don't see how you can just shut it off except in regards to one person. I don't think we can compartmentalize like that. Maybe turians can, but I doubt it. Their culture is different but they don't seem wired that differently from us like say a salarian.
And he says "I've never considered cross-species intercourse" and "I don't have a human fetish" as in "I don't get sexually aroused from humans." There's a giant gap between that and just finding somebody easy on the eyes. But if once he does manage to make femshep become sexually appealing to him in a physical fashion, I think that must ramp things up to a whole other level. It doesn't mean anything. I mean you can be married, but it still doesn't mean you don't find other guys sexually appealing.
So I guess I think it's either A) he doesn't find femshep attractive but he doesn't care about that or
if he does manage to become attracted to her he won't be able to find her attractive in isolation-he will start noticing attractive features in other humans
Wall of text is another wall of text. And I agree, we don't really have much evidence on this one way or the other. It's all just speculation. And meaningless speculation for the most part, if fun.
And he says "I've never considered cross-species intercourse" and "I don't have a human fetish" as in "I don't get sexually aroused from humans." There's a giant gap between that and just finding somebody easy on the eyes. But if once he does manage to make femshep become sexually appealing to him in a physical fashion, I think that must ramp things up to a whole other level. It doesn't mean anything. I mean you can be married, but it still doesn't mean you don't find other guys sexually appealing.
So I guess I think it's either A) he doesn't find femshep attractive but he doesn't care about that or
if he does manage to become attracted to her he won't be able to find her attractive in isolation-he will start noticing attractive features in other humansWall of text is another wall of text. And I agree, we don't really have much evidence on this one way or the other. It's all just speculation. And meaningless speculation for the most part, if fun.
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Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 05:08
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Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 06:04
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So Garrus can dance after all Now we know there's no excuse for him to stand around like a bump on a log while Shepard shuffles around on the dance floor (or maybe he just doesn't want to be seen with such a bad dancer)
Now we know there's no excuse for him to stand around like a bump on a log while Shepard shuffles around on the dance floor (or maybe he just doesn't want to be seen with such a bad dancer)
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Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 06:07
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The big question is, can Garrus out dance the dancing turian? Or Legion?
#12441
Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 06:51
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My Colonist MaleShep would like that. He would find any excuse to give Garrus a fistbump.MEisthebestgameiveeverplayed wrote...
If it's a male Shepard, then there is no stronger bromance. Like the bromance is so strong, that if Shepard and Garrus fistbump, then a thousand Batarian slaver ships explode in a wave of awesome.
For the discussion about Garrus being attracted to Shepard, I think it only happened after he liked her as a person. He said he's never considered anyone besides turians, which includes humans and asari. It is possible for him to watch movies with "romance scenes" in them because he enjoys the rest of the movie, and doesn't care about those scenes. Fleet and Flotilla sounds like a movie that could have a plot aside from romance, and he doesn't have to be attracted to quarians to think that two characters are good together in a movie. Or he could just like the song, as others have suggested. I've listened to songs that came from movie soundtracks without ever watching the movie. Anyway, I doubt Garrus has been checking out any humans, asari, etc. He's only interested in Shepard. I'm guessing he was with a good amount of turian women before Shepard though, judging by his story.
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Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 06:58
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Hazzel42 wrote...
So Garrus can dance after all
He just needs some liquid encouragement.
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Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 07:09
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So, what do you guys hope for the Garrus romance in ME3? I'd like more dialogue, a LOT more dialogue. And more insight into his background would be nice (although we learnt a fair bit about that in ME3). Perhaps talking about turian culture and customs?
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Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 07:16
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Too bad that none of the romance options in ME2 would dance. I wonder why they didn't bring dancing over from the first game. But at least we have videos of Garrus dancing mods. Still, I don't think anyone can beat the techno turian. xD
@Golden-Rose: I agree with your suggestions. It would be nice to see Garrus talk about his family too. I would want those same things for friendships with Garrus though. For romance-specific (besides the dancing feature from ME1), I'm not sure. Whatever BioWare comes up with will probably be awesome.
@Golden-Rose: I agree with your suggestions. It would be nice to see Garrus talk about his family too. I would want those same things for friendships with Garrus though. For romance-specific (besides the dancing feature from ME1), I'm not sure. Whatever BioWare comes up with will probably be awesome.
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Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 07:25
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I somehow have the feeling he won't be talking about his family in detail. Nor will he take Shepard to Palaven to meet Mom and Dad or anything. I could see that from some other characters, but not Garrus. His private life is a mess and it'd be quite unlike of him to involve Shepard in it except for vague mentions or gunning down folks.
But it'd be fun to learn more in secret, just so we players know even if Shepard is clueless.
But it'd be fun to learn more in secret, just so we players know even if Shepard is clueless.
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Edit: Can't use edit, it seems...
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Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 07:27
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I would like more Garrus conversation for romance/friendship in ME3, but I have a feeling that Garrus won't talk much about his family problems, unless it's linked to some story plot (aka someone who knew Solana, etc).
As for dancing Garrus: He could have danced if ME allowed us to control our squaddie
As for dancing Garrus: He could have danced if ME allowed us to control our squaddie
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Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 07:32
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Even a vague mention is fine, or there could be a situation that makes his family important. As it is now, my Shepards will never know unless a version of ME2 with the DLC included is ever released. I've only read the dossiers on the ME Wiki.
I've always liked that Garrus dancing video. xD At least he dances like Shepard before his dancing skills started to fail.
I've always liked that Garrus dancing video. xD At least he dances like Shepard before his dancing skills started to fail.
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Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 07:39
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I don't have the DLC either and read the Dossiers on the ME wiki as well. So I don't know either unless my financial problems improve. I'm green with envy with all the LotSB screencaps.
Speaking of the Dossiers from the DLC, I was kind of disappointed by Garrus' Dossier. I liked how they did give him a background information, but with the lack of ME2 Garrus talk, I expected a little bit... more?
Speaking of the Dossiers from the DLC, I was kind of disappointed by Garrus' Dossier. I liked how they did give him a background information, but with the lack of ME2 Garrus talk, I expected a little bit... more?
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Posté 27 septembre 2010 - 07:46
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I was happy with the information about Garrus. The only disappointment was from not getting to see it in-game. xD Good thing the ME Wiki is there. And Jane's videos too. (That poor turian Kelham hit with his car. MaleShep playing bad cop will be even more fun now when he reaches Thane's loyalty mission.)
