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kglaser wrote...

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Jackalope wrote...

My main femShep is an Earthborn War Hero. Her early life was a little rough, but the military fixed that and she hates injustice as much as Garrus. She's Paragon with a few Renegade moments. A good fit for Garrus. My super-sweet Shep belongs to Thane.

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He reigns Meghan in, she reigns him in. It's a partnership.


I like that.



Thanks!  That's why they fit better than she and Kaidan.  I found that there was too much of Alenko reigning in Meghan and not enough of her loosening him up.  Not a partnership, no matter what they feel.

Garrus is definitely better for her.

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Meche Shepard actually ended up being more Renegade than I'd anticipated.  I usually project a lot onto my characters, whether or not I want to; I can't seem to help it.  Meche is rebelling against me I think.  I found her not being as nicey-nice as my characters usually end up being.  I don't know why, but I do know that I was agonizing over whether or not to let Garrus shoot Sidonis in the head, but she had no problem with it. LOL  It's like she was controlling my thumb and there was no going back. :P

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What scene is that Garrus face from, the one with the big open-mouthed smile? xD It's adorable. I don't remember seeing that expression before.

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Kim, you seem to do a lot of really deep roleplaying.  A lot of people on the DA2 boards claim that is impossible to do in ME.  Were you able to do it the very first time you played the game or did you have to get used to it for a while before you could design characters? 

I was making up characters long before I played Mass Effect, but ME1 was the first time I ever got to play one of them in a game. It was awesome, but there's a reason why my "experiment" playthroughs always get messed up - a combination of having a clear idea for the character in mind without knowing all the possible options, and choosing certain options just because I want to see what happens (not even the choices I would make if I was Shepard, stuff like saving the Council on my first playthrough to see the "hero saves everyone" ending even though it was out-of-character for that Shepard). It's easier after I know how many possibilities there are.

Also, my Earthborn Ruthless can't hug Tali either. Kneeling down next to her and giving a comforting pat on the shoulder would have been more in-character. His interaction with Garrus seems more natural, for example - the scene when Garrus gets shot in the suicide mission and Shepard goes over to check on him before acting like "you're okay, just walk it off." Same with most of Garrus scenes, actually. The "I learned from the best" Renegade talk in the cab, Garrus saying "you haven't changed" and Shepard using his rifle, etc.

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The only "impossibility" is deciding Shepard's sexual orientation.

Because of the asari? I still say that if Shepard doesn't choose the options, it never happened. xD Mine are all straight, but it's possible to play Shepard any way with some imagination. A male Shepard who likes other guys could just not romance anyone because there are only female options, for example. They could like Garrus, but not say anything about it.

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As long as we're talking about our shepards, i'll mention mine.

Derrick Shepard is like a mix between Allan Alda from MASH and my own (idealized at least) personality. Hes very sarcastic as a defense mechanism for any emotional pain he still feels after Akuze and his earth-born childhood. Despite being paragon, he has a horrible temper.

Anyway, his personality and Garrus' just seem to sync with each others. That's why they're such good friends.

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[quote]
The only "impossibility" is deciding Shepard's sexual orientation.[/quote]
Because of the asari? I still say that if Shepard doesn't choose the options, it never happened. xD Mine are all straight, but it's possible to play Shepard any way with some imagination. A male Shepard who likes other guys could just not romance anyone because there are only female options, for example. They could like Garrus, but not say anything about it. [/quote]

That's the very motive none of my FemSheps had a romance in ME. All of them love Garuus :pinched:

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@ Kim

Does it bug you that don't know all the options at first, or do you just get used to it? Are you okay with having to learn the game before you can roleplay well in it? I ask because there is this one guy in the DA2 boards who is crazy particular about this and seems to believe deep roleplaying is inherently impossible in ME. And yet you seem to do the exact same thing he does and don't have a problem. I mean I roleplay. Quite a bit. But you sound like you could write a novel about some of your characters, like you know the ins and outs down to what their favorite color is and what kind of music they listen to. I just design enough to explain actions without ME. Anyway, I'm just wondering why it is you seem to be able to manage it, but that other guy can't for some reason.

Modifié par Ragabul the Ontarah, 29 septembre 2010 - 01:28 .


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I cant really Roleplay in ME until I know what Shep will do.



Shep having a voice, and saying and doing things that I dont expect ruins immersion and RP for me.

My good-cop shep who did the Paragon interupt with the Qurian/Volus chit thing is not the kind of person it get into's people's faces yet he ran around being OOC.



Mass Effect is hard to RP in since Shepard does and says things I can forsee so its jarring to see. Also the VO ruins it for me, hearing someone else talking and carrying on removes me or what I was trying to RP out the door. I like ME but its tricky to RP correctly.

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ME is the first game that ever got me to roleplay. Before I just always picked the "nice" option and never thought about who my character was beyond "good guy." I roleplayed a little in DAO, but not much.

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@Ragabul: I'm used to it, unless I have to replay the game because of a romance trap or something like that. I don't mind playing through the game once for fun and exploration and then more times to get it right. I'm just glad there are games that allow this level of roleplaying and character creation. (By the way, if Earthborn Ruthless was asked what his favorite color was, he would say "prison orange." xD)

Just thought I'd use another example of the roleplaying possibilities in Mass Effect. I can play a Shepard who likes Saren with none of her lines in the game sounding out-of-character. She says that Saren's Revelation plan sounded like a good idea during her talk with Anderson, tells Garrus not to kill him, tells Liara that she feels sorry for him, and Paragons him in the end. It's totally believable.

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I agree with you. I totally think you can deep roleplay in ME. I don't know my Shep's favorite color, but I could tell you pretty much anything else you want to know about her, and I can make all of this happen in ME. I just don't get it. Do you go with fast gut responses that you think are accurate or do you sit there and look at all the options for multiple minutes trying to decide which is best for your character? I do the first and it works fabulously. When I start thinking is when the problem arises and I might accidentally pick a wrong option.

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I can RP in ME after a few playthroughs since I know roughly what will happen.



However I find it much easier to RP in a non voiced RPG since I can see exactly what I was going to say.



However one moment in ME that did stand out is my anti-alien/procerberus shep who would never touch an alien and then suddenly engaged in nookies with the Consort in ME1.

Bloody warn somebody! All the line said was "Thats it?" not "LETS GET OUR FREAK ON!"

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Sialater wrote...

Jackalope wrote...

My main femShep is an Earthborn War Hero. Her early life was a little rough, but the military fixed that and she hates injustice as much as Garrus. She's Paragon with a few Renegade moments. A good fit for Garrus. My super-sweet Shep belongs to Thane.

Sialater wrote...

He reigns Meghan in, she reigns him in. It's a partnership.


I like that.



Thanks!  That's why they fit better than she and Kaidan.  I found that there was too much of Alenko reigning in Meghan and not enough of her loosening him up.  Not a partnership, no matter what they feel.

Garrus is definitely better for her.


I second that approval.

I can respect all the romances (except maybe Miranda's and Jacob's...*shrugs*), but I see what you're going for. The Shepard I romanced Garrus with is also Earthborn/War Hero. Wasn't intentional, but it's fun to plan their personalities accordingly, and that combination makes her...rough around the edges. Much like Garrus is now.

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Kim Shepard wrote...

aznsoisauce wrote... 

The only "impossibility" is deciding Shepard's sexual orientation.

Because of the asari? I still say that if Shepard doesn't choose the options, it never happened. xD Mine are all straight, but it's possible to play Shepard any way with some imagination. A male Shepard who likes other guys could just not romance anyone because there are only female options, for example. They could like Garrus, but not say anything about it.

Thus the quotations ;)
I don't count romancing an Asari as lesbianism so I feel as though Bioware has yet to give Shepard a gay or lesbian relationship. Unless you count Kelly for femSheps, I guess...

So you're right in that you can still roleplay as though your Shepard swings a certain way. It's just that Bioware hasn't given us the opportunity to play it out in the game with an acknowledged romance. I don't understand why they record the dialogue and leave it in the game files but they don't actually go through with it.

To stay Garrus-related, I must mention that my favorite hidden sound file is the recording of maleShep saying "I'm not screwing Garrus."

EDIT: I also want to point out that lips aren't required for tongue-wrestling. :whistle:

Modifié par aznsoisauce, 29 septembre 2010 - 01:48 .


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The role-playing in ME is very cerebral; aka, it involves your brain's interpretation of Shepard's lines, actions, and facial expressions. That is to say, the same lines can even be interpreted so many different ways based upon the context in which you have set them. That's one of the things that makes the game so fun/replayable. :)

eta: wait.  "I'm not screwing Garrus"?  When does he say that?? :happy:

Modifié par kglaser, 29 septembre 2010 - 01:54 .


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I mean the paraphrases. Not the actual lines.  I dissect the lines like crazy.  That is cerebral.  But I don't do the paraphrases like that.

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kglaser wrote...

The role-playing in ME is very cerebral; aka, it involves your brain's interpretation of Shepard's lines, actions, and facial expressions. That is to say, the same lines can even be interpreted so many different ways based upon the context in which you have set them. That's one of the things that makes the game so fun/replayable. :)

eta: wait.  "I'm not screwing Garrus"?  When does he say that?? :happy:

He dosent its a deleted line, found on the CD.

Like the Citadel Groundskeeper stuff.

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edit:  Never you mind. :P

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Is the recorded line for femshep in the Tali romance the same for the ones for dudeshep in the Mordin conversation? And if so, why would they differ for dudeshep in the Garrus conversation with Mordin?

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

kglaser wrote...

The role-playing in ME is very cerebral; aka, it involves your brain's interpretation of Shepard's lines, actions, and facial expressions. That is to say, the same lines can even be interpreted so many different ways based upon the context in which you have set them. That's one of the things that makes the game so fun/replayable. :)

eta: wait.  "I'm not screwing Garrus"?  When does he say that?? :happy:

He dosent its a deleted line, found on the CD.

Like the Citadel Groundskeeper stuff.


Wait WHAT :mellow::mellow::mellow:

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kglaser wrote...
Wait WHAT :mellow::mellow::mellow:


The groundkeeper stuff is here:

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LessThanKate wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Jackalope wrote...

My main femShep is an Earthborn War Hero. Her early life was a little rough, but the military fixed that and she hates injustice as much as Garrus. She's Paragon with a few Renegade moments. A good fit for Garrus. My super-sweet Shep belongs to Thane.

Sialater wrote...

He reigns Meghan in, she reigns him in. It's a partnership.


I like that.



Thanks!  That's why they fit better than she and Kaidan.  I found that there was too much of Alenko reigning in Meghan and not enough of her loosening him up.  Not a partnership, no matter what they feel.

Garrus is definitely better for her.


I second that approval.

I can respect all the romances (except maybe Miranda's and Jacob's...*shrugs*), but I see what you're going for. The Shepard I romanced Garrus with is also Earthborn/War Hero. Wasn't intentional, but it's fun to plan their personalities accordingly, and that combination makes her...rough around the edges. Much like Garrus is now.


Dont get me wrong, there's a reason my title in Clan V is "Involved in a Stupid Love Triangle," and it ain't because of Thane.  I adore Kaidan, but Garrus fit better for Meghan.  Kaidan has his own girl.  

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I agree with you. I totally think you can deep roleplay in ME. I don't know my Shep's favorite color, but I could tell you pretty much anything else you want to know about her, and I can make all of this happen in ME. I just don't get it. Do you go with fast gut responses that you think are accurate or do you sit there and look at all the options for multiple minutes trying to decide which is best for your character? I do the first and it works fabulously. When I start thinking is when the problem arises and I might accidentally pick a wrong option.

I stare at the screen for several minutes, unless I have it planned out ahead of time. xD Sometimes I go through every option in the conversation wheel once or twice. Most of the time, I know what they want to say - I just have to figure out which in-game dialogue is the closest to that.

Also, I agree with Giggles about the Consort. Never happened to me, but I thought the "That's it?" option would demand payment in the form of credits before I read what it really does.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

I can RP in ME after a few playthroughs since I know roughly what will happen.

However I find it much easier to RP in a non voiced RPG since I can see exactly what I was going to say.

However one moment in ME that did stand out is my anti-alien/procerberus shep who would never touch an alien and then suddenly engaged in nookies with the Consort in ME1.
Bloody warn somebody! All the line said was "Thats it?" not "LETS GET OUR FREAK ON!"


I support asari repellent in ME3.


I say everytime an asari comes on to you in ME3, you get to make out with Garrus.  (Or the LI of your choice)

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I can name just as many lines that do things like that in DAO. Alistair ninjamance much? That romance has 20+ triggers, many of them quite unclear.