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[ciaweth]

By ME3, I'm expecting him to have a moment of "maybe I'm bad for you," and then shake it off himself. "What am I thinking? I always do this to myself. Screw that. We're good, Shepard."



Then again, it'd be more game-y to have the player participate in convincing him of that.

[lovgreno]

Nah I think Garrus is self confident enough to know that he wants Shepard and that Shepard wants him.

[General Ashous]

Indeed. Garrus has a lot of self confidence and would want to be with Shepard. Still, they may have a little lovers tiff or Garrus may do what I do, think that they deserve better than him. I mean, I think people who say that, me included, just want to show that they care and Garrus would like to show he cares, I think.

[ciaweth]

He can show me he cares by building a damn bower. <.<

[Nilfalasiel]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I think he knows Shepard wants him. I think he might start wondering if Shepard wanting him is a good thing. He might worry he is dragging her down. I don't think he would push it though. I just think he might worry about it.

Yeah, I agree. I can also see him not coming right out and saying it, unless Shep specifically notices that it bothers him and asks about it.

Or if someone insults her very copiously. Then he might say something to that effect once it's just the two of them.

But yeah, he probably wouldn't pursue the issue once Shep told him everything was fine.

@ ciaweth:  It would be good if Garrus drew the "we're fine" conclusion on his own. But yeah, it's more likely that Shep would get a say in it.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 30 septembre 2010 - 03:21 .

[Nilfalasiel]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I actually don't want it to be all sunshine and bunnies. I mean it's a turian/human romanced for crying out loud! There's no way that can go off perfectly without so much as a single hitch. I don't want uber angst and tears and gnashing of teeth either. But I definitely want some serious discussion. Not sure I want an actual spat though. Garrus doesn't seem the type for that. I can't think of anything off the top of my head that Shep could do that would make him get aggressive or angry. I can think of any number of things she could do that would confuse him, worry him, or even bum him out.

I wouldn't want sunshine and bunnies either, it wouldn't be realistic, especially knowing Garrus. But I don't think he'd actually walk out of his own volition without even trying to talk things out, for example.

[General Ashous]

Exactly. Make it like the Sims. Joking. No, what they need to do is find a happy medium. Like every relationship there are ups and downs, advantages and disadvantages (so I'm told anyway). They are of completly different races and there's deffinetly going to be a few complications but they can see it through like any good couple. God, since when did I become the expert on relationships, I've never even had a single gf! I'm mad.

[lovgreno]

It would be fair for them to ask themselves if they were crazy for even considering this now and then. Because yes, a turian/human affair is totaly bizzare when you think about it (but it's also part of the charm of course...).

Modifié par lovgreno, 30 septembre 2010 - 03:37 .

[JulianP]

J4N3_M3 wrote...

I don't see why everyone is obsessing over Lorik

Because I find his long nose and gaunt face cute, and because he's an honorable chap.  I like them all, though.

[JulianP]

Nilfalasiel wrote..

That line doesn't refer to Garrus. "Scuttlebutt" is a common term used to mean "word is on the street" or "they say". Lilihierax actually says "scuttlebutt" when he mentions the rumours about Lorik. So no, Garrus isn't into gossip.

"Scuttlebutt" = the water cooler on a ship.  So literally quite appropriate for Normandy gossip!

[Twilight_Princess]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I think a lot of people being weirded out by alien romances (well my sister for instance) are just really not used to sci-fi. I mean most people in my family can't even get over a movie with talking animals in it. If the Lion King fritzes your brain out, there is no way you are ever going to get a Garrus romance. I also think that unfortunately many guys in particular can be very weirded out when they discover that women's tastes are actually not quite as vanilla as they had imagined. There is a common perception that women's sexual tastes can be neatly defined in a nice, clean little box (hehe, I said box), but that isn't true. If anything, it seems like this might be more of an issue for guys than for women. I mean, can you imagine the story of Beauty and the Beast where the human is male and the beast is female? Or have you ever noticed that in most games/movies female monsters or members of other races never get shown? Female orcs are not very common. Neither are female dwarves. Female elves are a dime a dozen. All the female aliens revealed thus far in ME have boobs and fairly humanoid faces and builds. I don't know if this is actually true of guys or if marketers just think it is true of them. I have seen multiple guys who want a female turian romance so it's obvious they don't all think this way.

But I think REM and Alexine make good points. There is a quote by Guillermo del Toro that I really like. He says "monsters are the last minority." What he means by that is that if you take the time to really get over like, say, Hellboy's physical appearance to the point that his appearance is irrelevant to you than it should make you stop and think: "If I can get used to a guy with a tail and horns who is bright red than why is skin color or sexual orientation a big deal? That's very minor compared to this." It teaches you that is is humanly possible to throw aside personal appearance and minor things like that as a reason to not accept or like someone. If I can find Garrus attractive, I would be a hypocrite indeed if I dismissed somebody in real life just because their skin is a different color than mine or something like that.

Had to quote this excellent post, its just spot on. Women in the media and in general are more likely to look past physical appearance than men , this is evident everywhere, guys don’t have to constantly look “perfect” for us in order for us to be attracted to them. Look at the response Jacob got and compare it to the response Garrus and Thane got. A non-mass effect player would wonder what the hell was wrong with us, passing up a hunky human for a space grasshopper! We must be crazy right? Well it’s not because like you said, our tastes don't tend to be as vanilla, perfect abs for example, doesn’t equal instant attraction for me at all, a guy who possesses a good sense of humour however, will.  Also, am I the only one who got sad when beast turned back into a human?  

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 30 septembre 2010 - 04:19 .

[Eradyn]

I don't want unnecessary Garrus drama for the sake of having drama. That would be so...trite. And it has the high likelihood of being very ooc, because Garrus is not a drama ****. Period. I think there may, and should, be a moment in ME3 where the player has an out...where Garrus says something like, "Shepard. You're the most important person in my life...I want you to be happy. Are you happy being with me?" And then let the player reaffirm their love for Garrus or cut off the relationship.



Garrus is not a character that stirs up drama. That's counterproductive to a successful mission AND keeping morale up. He's never been about that, so a big fat NO from me regarding drama for its own sake. Thank you.



As for Garrus caring what others think of their relationship...no. Garrus seems to only truly care and be motivated by what Shepard thinks, with few, if any, other exceptions.

[ciaweth]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

*Edit* Just like removing Garrus scars would ruin a good deal of the point of his story.

Really?  Removing his physical scars would ruin a significant portion of the point of Garrus' story?  For me the scars are hamfisted icing on the actual plot cake.

To each her own, I guess. 

[AngryP1xel]

I had a dream last night that I was playing zero G ping pong Garrus, Jack, and Joker. What does this mean?

[UnDutchable]

I don't think I've ever met anyone who was happy when the Beast turned back into a human. Even as little girls my sister and I thought he was totally fugly as a normal guy.

As for drama... I'm pretty sure it's inevitable for ME3. We still need to see the consequences of "cheating" on the ME1 LI, after all, and I think it would be really weird if that was the only time the relationships get mentioned. Pretty much all the relationships FemShep can pursue are pretty controversal to the general public, I think. Either she's banging a Cerberus agent, an alien, or she fraternized with a high-ranking Alliance member who used to be her subordinate. Someone should have something to say about that.

[Sialater]

Disney couldn't draw arms to save their lives in the 90s. Eric in The Little Mermaid was just as screwed up.



None of Shepard's LI choices in either gender are "approved" by the general populace. A convict, a subordinate, an alien, and a terrorist for male Shep.



I do not want a giant knock down drag out between Garrus and Kaidan.

[Giggles_Manically]

IF the annoying reporter brings up Garrus in a rude fashion I might see my Paragon Shep who romanced him slugging her.



That I think is a great opportunity to bring it up.

[lovgreno]

Yeah Shepards romances are hardly something to build a career in politics on, wich in itself is good material for a fun story in ME3. I am looking forward to use renegade interrupt on those who talks bad about Garrus and Tali.

[lovgreno]

AngryP1xel wrote...

I had a dream last night that I was playing zero G ping pong Garrus, Jack, and Joker. What does this mean?

It means this: You and your subconsious are awesome.

Modifié par lovgreno, 30 septembre 2010 - 05:35 .

[Nilfalasiel]

Eradyn wrote...

I don't want unnecessary Garrus drama for the sake of having drama. That would be so...trite. And it has the high likelihood of being very ooc, because Garrus is not a drama ****. Period. I think there may, and should, be a moment in ME3 where the player has an out...where Garrus says something like, "Shepard. You're the most important person in my life...I want you to be happy. Are you happy being with me?" And then let the player reaffirm their love for Garrus or cut off the relationship.

Garrus is not a character that stirs up drama. That's counterproductive to a successful mission AND keeping morale up. He's never been about that, so a big fat NO from me regarding drama for its own sake. Thank you.

As for Garrus caring what others think of their relationship...no. Garrus seems to only truly care and be motivated by what Shepard thinks, with few, if any, other exceptions.

I don't think that Garrus having doubts about whether being with him might hurt Shep's reputation is drama for drama's sake. If anything, I'd be surprised if it was never brought up. I think Garrus might care to some extent if there was disagreement from his family. Not to the extent of dumping Shep over it, of course, but come on...it is his family. I'd be affected if my family started bad-mouthing my significant other.

And I also think that Garrus' self-confidence isn't quite 100% yet when it comes to his relationship with Shep. After all, it's so completely different from any other relationship he's been in.

Also, I agree with Raga about the scars: they make the romance scene that much more poignant. And the fact that he doesn't want to show himself to his sister.

And on a totally different note, yes, I was also disappointed when Beast became human. Did they seriously believe that the prince looked good? At least Eric from the Little Mermaid was tolerable (mainly because of the black hair, I must admit).

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 30 septembre 2010 - 05:41 .

[ciaweth]

So if* Garrus and Shepard get flack for being involved with each other, my hope would be that Garrus defends himself. But if he falters, my Shepard won't hesitate to dive into the fray. Just like old times.



I want to find out what species the turian councilor's mistress is. If she's not a turian, I sure hope we get the opportunity to use that against any Garrus/Shepard objections he may have.



*I think it's pretty much a given, but lack actual data to prove it.