So heres a topic,
Turian body temperature:
Higher or lower then human body temperature?
Calibrations: Garrus Love and Turian Discussion
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#13102
Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 02:30
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Turian body temps, warmer I think - no real reason (well only that I'd rather snuggle with someone warmer than me!)
#13103
Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 02:42
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I think most think turian body temp is warmer, because Palaven was revealed to be warm on the Virmire mission. That's all.
And I agree with Hazzel...I want to snuggle with someone warmer too!
And I agree with Hazzel...I want to snuggle with someone warmer too!
#13104
Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 02:49
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That's basically my reason too, and that Garrus says turians don't like the cold. Although, I don't imagine Saren as being warm, maybe because he's very metal by the time of ME1.kglaser wrote...
I think most think turian body temp is warmer, because Palaven was revealed to be warm on the Virmire mission. That's all.
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Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 02:58
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Kim Shepard wrote...
That's basically my reason too, and that Garrus says turians don't like the cold. Although, I don't imagine Saren as being warm, maybe because he's very metal by the time of ME1.
With Saren's cyborg/Geth bits I'd imagine his temperature would be a bit warmer than normal. If the mechanics require cooling I could see using the skin to radiate away excess heat. Mind you futuristic cyborgy bits might run cooler so wo knows. I still think Saren is pretty impressive as a Turian cyborg hot or cold body temp.
#13106
Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 03:09
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I guess it's because I think of the geth being like cold metal, and Saren has a geth arm. xD For Reaper tech, I have no idea... it would probably feel like biotics, whatever that means. The blue glow is at least visible through his head and fringe (no idea about the rest of him, since it's covered by armor).
And I agree with Saren being impressive, of course.
And I agree with Saren being impressive, of course.
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Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 03:38
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If it's any consolation, I guess I always figured the husks and Geth were cooler because they didn't have any living tissue in them. Saren's just a hottie either way;)
#13108
Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 03:53
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Now that's something MainShep would jump out of the game to agree on! xD Maybe she and everyone else's Shepards would know the answer. Saren was pretty close when he had his hand around Shepard's neck in that Virmire cutscene.
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Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 04:13
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TheodoricFriede wrote...
So heres a topic,
Turian body temperature:
Higher or lower then human body temperature?
Doesn't matter, as long as you stay hydrated.
Garrus knows best
#13110
Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 05:11
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/giggles on her way to unconsciousnessHyrule_Gal wrote...
TheodoricFriede wrote...
So heres a topic,
Turian body temperature:
Higher or lower then human body temperature?
Doesn't matter, as long as you stay hydrated.
Garrus knows best
My 2 cents? Shepard will keep the temp to whatever's comfy... so he doesn't have to wear a shirt.
/is dragged away
#13111
Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 05:24
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silentstephi wrote...
/giggles on her way to unconsciousnessHyrule_Gal wrote...
TheodoricFriede wrote...
So heres a topic,
Turian body temperature:
Higher or lower then human body temperature?
Doesn't matter, as long as you stay hydrated.
*pic*
Garrus knows best
My 2 cents? Shepard will keep the temp to whatever's comfy... so he doesn't have to wear a shirt.
/is dragged away
I can see shep turning up the thermostat any chance she gets
Shepard: Are you sure you're not too warm Garrus?
Garrus: I'm fine
Shepard: Really?
Garrus: Yeah, my species can deal with high temperatures
Shepard :...*spills glass of wine on him* whoops! I guess you'll have to take your shirt off now, I'LL HELP YOU
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Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 06:27
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Assorted catch up post:
I like the idea of Liara being a sort of guide or something in ME3. That would be pretty cool. To be honest I'm also kind of miffed that you have to dump Cerberus if you blew up the base. It seems kind of silly when they try to make it out like TIM isn't big on wasting time/resources on useless vendettas. I mean even his revenge against Grayson fit into some larger plan to advance humanity's cause. I always try to word myself in a neutral way at the end because the official opinion my Shep has is something like "I'm not going to turn away anybody who wants to help me fight the Reapers, and you have awesome resources and intel. If you're still on board than so am I. But I also won't eat out of your hand, always use your methods, or refuse help from people you don't like such as the Alliance or aliens." I guess I was hoping TIM was a little more reasonable than that, but that' me being too naive again.
Garrus being oldest or youngest sibling. I have no idea at all. I don't even know where to begin speculating there as there just isn't any real data pointing one way or the other. I guess I kind of want him to be younger though. I like the idea of him being the young rebellious one, even if it is a bit cliche.
On amount of Liara romance content. I don't think the Liara fans have gotten like an unfair amount or anything. IMO, her romance in ME1 was kind of weak and there was also multiple things in ME2 that disappointed some people and/or raised a lot of questions. I think they need this clarification to salvage her character honestly. I never really disliked her, but LotSB actually put her in my top maybe 5-10 overall squaddies. As I said before, I don't think she passed everybody else up with this DLC. I think she just now caught up. Plus, the other LIs (minus the VS) also got all kinds of fun handouts.
VS DLC. I'm neutral. If they release it, I"ll buy it. I'm skeptical they will release it but will spare a wall of text for why I think that. If they don't release it, I won't loose sleep. My mainshep is a cheater so I would like to see that get resolved, but if Kaidan never shows back up, well, that's also resolution.
Turian body temperature. No clue. I would guess they are warm blooded just because the codex seems to buy into the "warm blooded=more advanced" idea. Hence how it points out that the salarians are warm-blooded even though they are amphibians. It's maybe possible turians have some problems with heat retention though from various circumstantial things in the game, but I don't really think that is the case. If it was, it could mean they are cold blooded. Being cold-blooded wouldn't matter as much on a warm planet like Palaven. And they could also possibly have some kind of heating units or something in their armor to help them compensate on colder planets. I could really see it being either way. Cold-blooded might even give them an advantage if they could maintain their body-heat via artificial means as cold-blooded stuff generally has a slower metabolism and tends to need to eat less.
I like the idea of Liara being a sort of guide or something in ME3. That would be pretty cool. To be honest I'm also kind of miffed that you have to dump Cerberus if you blew up the base. It seems kind of silly when they try to make it out like TIM isn't big on wasting time/resources on useless vendettas. I mean even his revenge against Grayson fit into some larger plan to advance humanity's cause. I always try to word myself in a neutral way at the end because the official opinion my Shep has is something like "I'm not going to turn away anybody who wants to help me fight the Reapers, and you have awesome resources and intel. If you're still on board than so am I. But I also won't eat out of your hand, always use your methods, or refuse help from people you don't like such as the Alliance or aliens." I guess I was hoping TIM was a little more reasonable than that, but that' me being too naive again.
Garrus being oldest or youngest sibling. I have no idea at all. I don't even know where to begin speculating there as there just isn't any real data pointing one way or the other. I guess I kind of want him to be younger though. I like the idea of him being the young rebellious one, even if it is a bit cliche.
On amount of Liara romance content. I don't think the Liara fans have gotten like an unfair amount or anything. IMO, her romance in ME1 was kind of weak and there was also multiple things in ME2 that disappointed some people and/or raised a lot of questions. I think they need this clarification to salvage her character honestly. I never really disliked her, but LotSB actually put her in my top maybe 5-10 overall squaddies. As I said before, I don't think she passed everybody else up with this DLC. I think she just now caught up. Plus, the other LIs (minus the VS) also got all kinds of fun handouts.
VS DLC. I'm neutral. If they release it, I"ll buy it. I'm skeptical they will release it but will spare a wall of text for why I think that. If they don't release it, I won't loose sleep. My mainshep is a cheater so I would like to see that get resolved, but if Kaidan never shows back up, well, that's also resolution.
Turian body temperature. No clue. I would guess they are warm blooded just because the codex seems to buy into the "warm blooded=more advanced" idea. Hence how it points out that the salarians are warm-blooded even though they are amphibians. It's maybe possible turians have some problems with heat retention though from various circumstantial things in the game, but I don't really think that is the case. If it was, it could mean they are cold blooded. Being cold-blooded wouldn't matter as much on a warm planet like Palaven. And they could also possibly have some kind of heating units or something in their armor to help them compensate on colder planets. I could really see it being either way. Cold-blooded might even give them an advantage if they could maintain their body-heat via artificial means as cold-blooded stuff generally has a slower metabolism and tends to need to eat less.
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#13113
Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 06:32
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I kind of like the idea of Garrus and Shepard arguing about what temperature Shepard room should have due to their diffent natural body temperature.
#13114
Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 07:29
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Palaven being very warm could also mean that turians don't need too much internal body heat regulation... essentially meaning they're cold-blooded. They'd get all the body heat they need from the sun. This would actually be an advantage for life on Palaven.
Being cold-blooded, though, has its disadvantages and when I'm thinking of turian biology, I'm always thinking "what gives them the most flexibility and adaptability", for example to colonise the numerous planets they've had colonies on. And for that alone, endothermic seems the better option. But I dunno about being warmer than others, it's not necessary and actually goes a bit against Palaven being very warm. You don't wanna get too warm, either.
"Not liking cold" could just be a preference and nothing to do with turians slowing down or anything. I mean, they come from the tropic and if that's where you were raised, you probably don't fancy the cold climates too much.
Being cold-blooded, though, has its disadvantages and when I'm thinking of turian biology, I'm always thinking "what gives them the most flexibility and adaptability", for example to colonise the numerous planets they've had colonies on. And for that alone, endothermic seems the better option. But I dunno about being warmer than others, it's not necessary and actually goes a bit against Palaven being very warm. You don't wanna get too warm, either.
"Not liking cold" could just be a preference and nothing to do with turians slowing down or anything. I mean, they come from the tropic and if that's where you were raised, you probably don't fancy the cold climates too much.
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Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 07:52
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Hyrule_Gal wrote...
Doesn't matter, as long as you stay hydrated.
Except that Turians can't sweat, their skin is metal. Maybe that's what those head things are for, to radiate heat? Same reason they have the one on the side of their legs?
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Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 07:56
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I think maybe they can sweat. Sidonis mentions waking up "soaked in sweat." Could just be an expression I guess. Plus, I don't know how else you could get dehydrated that quickly except by sweating.
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Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 08:00
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...what?Terraneaux wrote...
Hyrule_Gal wrote...
Doesn't matter, as long as you stay hydrated.
Except that Turians can't sweat, their skin is metal. Maybe that's what those head things are for, to radiate heat? Same reason they have the one on the side of their legs?
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Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 08:13
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I think Terraneaux is talking about that whole "metallic exoskeleton" thing the codex mentions. I really wish Bioware would clarify what the crap they mean by that.
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Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 08:19
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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
I think Terraneaux is talking about that whole "metallic exoskeleton" thing the codex mentions. I really wish Bioware would clarify what the crap they mean by that.
Their skin is covered in a thin layer of metal. Like aluminum foil. You can't sweat through that, so Turians either have some other way to vent heat out of their bodies or else don't have the endurance that humans do.
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Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 08:20
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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
I think maybe they can sweat. Sidonis mentions waking up "soaked in sweat." Could just be an expression I guess. Plus, I don't know how else you could get dehydrated that quickly except by sweating.
Also Turians are kind of known for using human idiomatic expressions.
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Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 08:23
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Where are you getting this business about a thin layer of metal? I've heard many different explanations of what "metallic exoskeleton" might mean. There really isn't any consensus that I'm aware of.
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Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 08:24
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If they are, it would explain why Saren apparently didn't eat for a few days in Revelation. But if not, I assume his extra weight helps with that.Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
Cold-blooded might even give them an advantage if they could maintain their body-heat via artificial means as cold-blooded stuff generally has a slower metabolism and tends to need to eat less.
Also, I'm pretty sure turians could just sweat from their skin. Their faceplates, fringe, etc. are metallic, but their skin doesn't seem to be. It would be strange for Sidonis to use that expression if turians don't have anything similar to sweating.
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Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 08:28
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Could just be the translator associating a Turian phrase with one that is familiar to Humans.
Also...metallic does not always mean made of metal. That's where my confusion came from.
Also...metallic does not always mean made of metal. That's where my confusion came from.
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Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 08:32
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I like that idea of translation of idioms. Probably translates turian curses into ones humans can understand as well. I mean why would a turian say something like "what in the hell?" And yes, I know this is all just for ease of gameplay and that's the real reason. I just like coming up with in-world reasons that explain as much as possible as well.
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Posté 03 octobre 2010 - 08:38
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Mind that "exoskeleton" is a bit different thing than what turians really have. A real metallic exoskeleton would block weapons to a point, because it's an exoskeleton. It's an external skeleton, that does a lot of the things that an internal skeleton does (for most species this means holding their muscles and tissues together; they're all mushy inside that exoskeleton), plus offers protection as a natural armour. Turians have a soft skin, because their "exoskeleton" is not a natural armour.
What I think they have is a metallic "pigmentation" (still the wrong word, but better than "exoskeleton"), a layer of skin cells that are somehow metallic and reflect the radiation. Exoskeleton doesn't stretch, but turian skin seems stretchy.
This is what the codex says: "To deal with this, most forms of life on Palaven evolved some form of metallic "exoskeleton" to protect themselves. Their reflective plate-like skin makes turians less susceptible to long-term, low-level radiation exposure, but they do not possess any sort of "natural armor". A turian's thick skin does not stop projectiles and directed energy bolts."
It has "exoskeleton" in quotes, speaks of "plate-like" skin and explicitly says they possess no sort of natural armour against projectiles, which means their skin is soft. The latter part is the only explicit description, while the others are a bit vague, as if to compare to the stuff we are familiar with without stating they actually have a real exoskeleton or plate-skin.
To compare, the rachni have a real exoskeleton. All beetles have real exoskeletons, too. It's very different from what the turians have. It's indeed an external skeleton, that holds the body together.
What I think they have is a metallic "pigmentation" (still the wrong word, but better than "exoskeleton"), a layer of skin cells that are somehow metallic and reflect the radiation. Exoskeleton doesn't stretch, but turian skin seems stretchy.
This is what the codex says: "To deal with this, most forms of life on Palaven evolved some form of metallic "exoskeleton" to protect themselves. Their reflective plate-like skin makes turians less susceptible to long-term, low-level radiation exposure, but they do not possess any sort of "natural armor". A turian's thick skin does not stop projectiles and directed energy bolts."
It has "exoskeleton" in quotes, speaks of "plate-like" skin and explicitly says they possess no sort of natural armour against projectiles, which means their skin is soft. The latter part is the only explicit description, while the others are a bit vague, as if to compare to the stuff we are familiar with without stating they actually have a real exoskeleton or plate-skin.
To compare, the rachni have a real exoskeleton. All beetles have real exoskeletons, too. It's very different from what the turians have. It's indeed an external skeleton, that holds the body together.
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