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[Sable Rhapsody]

LessThanKate wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Garrus and Zaeed are the best Merc killing team.
I romanced him with my Paragon Sentinel, really though as a Paragon Shep, Garrus does seem a little harsh.

As a more renegade shep me and Zaeed stood back and gave him a raucous round of applause during his LM.

I suppose so, though in defense of the Paragon--good does not necessarily mean nice.

It is a bit funny though, my main femShep is (mostly) Paragon, and Thane is...probably a better fit. It's like...

Paragon Shepard: *points to Garrus* I want that one!

Game: That's not a very good option for you. Here, take this one *hands over Thane*

Paragon Shepard: But I want that oooonnnnne!

I romanced Garrus with a Paragade Shep, and they fit together really well.  She curbed Garrus's more impulsive, Cowboy Cop tendencies without requiring that he follow the law to the letter all the time.  She made him slow down and think through his decisions.  I think she liked having someone who disagreed with her around; more perspectives are good.  Garrus is also much more of a heart person than my FemShep, and I think that was really good for her.

Then again, I overanalyze my characters like crazy.  I suppose if you're playing straight-up Paragon FemShep, it's a little jarring.  But Garrus is so much SMEXIER than Thane 

[nekhbet]

Cowboy Cop... someone please make a "shooting from the hip" motivational/banner for that...

*picks her mind up from the gutter and goes to rinse it with cold water*

Modifié par nekhbet, 07 octobre 2010 - 07:41 .

[lovgreno]

Yeah, in my mind Garrus is mostly paragade so I think he would work fine with a ParagadeShep. Heh, "work fine"... I might as well leave my mind in the gutter as it seems to be very happy there.

[aznsoisauce]

Just saw this poll. Of course, I had such a hard time choosing...

[Kim Shepard]

I think Garrus would work best with Renegons or Paragades. Renegon fits more with the "compassionate Renegade" description I've read for him. (Who called him that anyway, a writer or dev?)

aznsoisauce wrote...

Just saw this poll. Of course, I had such a hard time choosing...

I chose Garrus, of course. xD Zaeed is a close second, as I consider him worth buying a second copy of ME2 if they release the DLC on disc.

[General Ashous]

I think Garrus suits any character really. Mainly because he always agrees with Shepard's choices. There is the odd occasion where he disagrees but afterwards he comes around and realises what happened and why Shepard did what he/she did. The only dodgy one is the suicide mission. He believes that it's wrong to destroy the collector base and yet afterwards he's pleased. Hate it when scripts go wrong.

[Kim Shepard]

I agree. Garrus is always loyal and gets along with any kind of Shepard. I think that's one of the reasons we all like him. What I meant in my post was that he'd be more likely to share the same opinions with Renegons and Paragades, so if the Shepard likes a guy who's a lot like her, Garrus works well with them. I know a Shepard with opposite views to Garrus can still work well with him - it's just that my Shepards don't like anyone who's too different, so my MainShep and her clones are Renegon/Paragade.

[nekhbet]

He's a better doormat... uhh, turian than he likes to think he is.

[Kim Shepard]

But only with Shepard. Because, of course, Shepard is always right. Why can't the other squadmates see that? xD

[Sable Rhapsody]

Kim Shepard wrote...

I think Garrus would work best with Renegons or Paragades. Renegon fits more with the "compassionate Renegade" description I've read for him. (Who called him that anyway, a writer or dev?)

aznsoisauce wrote...

Just saw this poll. Of course, I had such a hard time choosing...

I chose Garrus, of course. xD Zaeed is a close second, as I consider him worth buying a second copy of ME2 if they release the DLC on disc.

It was Pat Weekes who called him a "compassionate Renegade," I think, and he's a writer.  And I agree--Garrus's compassionate Renegade tendencies are really in line with a Renegon Shep.  As for a Paragade Shep, one who usually does the right thing but is willing to break the rules, I think it's really cute having them sort of meet halfway, as it were.

And I have to say, I really like Garrus's snarky interjections/banter.  But for advice?  Actual, no kidding advice?  Something tells me that your more experienced party members (Mordin, Samara, arguably even Legion) would give better advice than Garrus.  I love Garrus to itty bitty bits, but he does tend to do things without thinking them through.

[Jackalope]

Hazzel42 wrote...
Just thought: If Garrus didn't make it through the suicide mission and you saved Sidonis do you think he'd be able to take Garrus's place on Shepard's team?

Er...I guess if you're the type that ditched Alistair for Loghain...

[jtav]

I just wanted to drop in and say that I was one of the few people who disliked Garrus. Emphasis on the "was." Yesterday, I did LotSB after the SM for the first time. My God, that was a moving dossier. Especially the conversation with his sister. I hope they can patch things up eventually.

[General Ashous]

Now that was a very bad choice to make. Loghain had no reason to join the Grey Wardens, he deserved his execution because of Duncan. Wrong place for that though. I don't think it would seem right Sidonis taking Garrus' place. Still, I never let Garrus die. Hell, I never let anyone die, cant bare to see it. Jack, maybe and possibly Grunt but Garrus, Thane, Tali, Mordin, Legion, any of the others, I can't bare it. It's too depressing.

[General Ashous]

Praise the Lord! Another Garrus fan! Glad you saw the light jtav. Very glad indeed. Garrus should be loved by all.

[Hazzel42]

Jackalope wrote...

Hazzel42 wrote...
Just thought: If Garrus didn't make it through the suicide mission and you saved Sidonis do you think he'd be able to take Garrus's place on Shepard's team?

Er...I guess if you're the type that ditched Alistair for Loghain...

Ah no - I would never do that to Alistair!   And before you ask I actually have all my original team in one piece ready for ME3.  I couldn't be without them.  I was just speculating in a Devil's advocate kind of way about how the writers might fill holes for people who didn't have all their team.

[Sialater]

They do without. I really hope so.

[goofygoff]

Jackalope wrote...

Hazzel42 wrote...
Just thought: If Garrus didn't make it through the suicide mission and you saved Sidonis do you think he'd be able to take Garrus's place on Shepard's team?

Er...I guess if you're the type that ditched Alistair for Loghain...

Hey, I resemble that comment. 


Which is why I was initially nervous about not letting Garrus shoot Sidonis.  Thankfully, he didn't put his need for revenge ahead of the mission/friendship. 





(ilu, ali)

[Cra5y Pineapple]

jtav wrote...

I just wanted to drop in and say that I was one of the few people who disliked Garrus. Emphasis on the "was." Yesterday, I did LotSB after the SM for the first time. My God, that was a moving dossier. Especially the conversation with his sister. I hope they can patch things up eventually.

Those dossiers were great. Some funny (Legion Gaming, Grunt searching stuff), and some d'aaawwww (EDI and Legion coversation, Garrus email train with sister). I honestly love them.

I'm suprised no one talks about the footage of Garrus in the SB base. We now know he had at the least two turians in his squad of 12.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Yep Garrus' dossier was pretty badass.

[kglaser]

WarlordFil wrote:
Garrus smut cannot be condoned for any reason.

I can't let this slide.  I see what you did there.

jtav wrote...

I just wanted to drop in and say that I was one of the few people who disliked Garrus. Emphasis on the "was." Yesterday, I did LotSB after the SM for the first time. My God, that was a moving dossier. Especially the conversation with his sister. I hope they can patch things up eventually.

It's quite cool that that DLC contained backstory that made you like Garrus more.  I actually love that they put information in about everybody; gives you better insight into already-great characters.  Such a BioWare thing to do.

Modifié par kglaser, 07 octobre 2010 - 11:48 .

[Brass_Buckles]

Hazzel42 wrote...

Jackalope wrote...

Hazzel42 wrote...
Just thought: If Garrus didn't make it through the suicide mission and you saved Sidonis do you think he'd be able to take Garrus's place on Shepard's team?

Er...I guess if you're the type that ditched Alistair for Loghain...

Ah no - I would never do that to Alistair!   And before you ask I actually have all my original team in one piece ready for ME3.  I couldn't be without them.  I was just speculating in a Devil's advocate kind of way about how the writers might fill holes for people who didn't have all their team.

Unfortunately I really doubt we'll get all our previous squad members.  I had the misfortune of reading LotSB spoilers a while back (I'm having to replay everything thanks to my hard drive death before and I was really hoping not to run across any such spoilers), and it does sound kind of like even Garrus is on the chopping block.  I'm betting we get Miranda, and if you let Garrus survive, he'll be a cameo.  Remember, people love Wrex, too, and yet all he gets is a cameo in ME2 if you let him live.  I don't think he'll be in ME3 as anything more than a cameo, either, which is too bad:  I dislike Grunt.  What's most likely is that we'll get some other turian party member, and if you let Garrus live through ME2 he'll cameo in some important role among the turians, where he'll be a huge help to you in resolving the ME3 plot.  There'll probably be an extra scene and something in the ending card if you romanced him.  Let's just hope that they don't make him pull an Alistair for you thinking that Shep will find someone more appropriate if he's out of the way.  Yes, I'd prefer he be a party member.  I just don't count on it--and it may be better for Garrus the character if he got to be put in a leader's role.  Frankly it would be a letdown not to have him and Tali on the crew in ME3, when they've come 2/3 through the trilogy with Shepard, even if they do something completely epic with both characters.  However, Tali will almost certainly be leading the Quarian Flotilla, which means no Garrus for us Garrus fans.

I'm also kind of hoping for a Garrus standalone game to be released eventually, especially if he is in fact a party member in ME3.

As for what kind of Shepard works best for Garrus?  A pure paragon probably doesn't, unless she's so perfectly idealistic that she can't really see him for what he is, or she just likes to argue.  My mostly-paragon spacer/ruthless character worked; she identified with him because she'd been a lot like him not so long ago.  My renegon worked with him pretty well--though she totally renegaded him despite her paragon end-game choice (I hate renegading Garrus)--and I did have some plans for a pure paragon who'd romance him, maybe under the misguided notion that she could "fix" him, or maybe because she felt that despite it all, he's a good guy (which is true).  We all know how well "fixing" someone works out in real life, I hope.  The only character I have now is a new Infiltrator whom I don't like all that well, a Colonist/War Hero who's most likely going to end up with Kaidan and stay loyal to him.  And yet, I'm itching to make another character who feels "right" with Garrus.  I hope in ME3, if you don't romance him, something great happens to him to make up for it.  Poor guy needs something to go right after all he's been through.

[kglaser]

As depressing as Garrus's new info was, it couldn't hold a candle to Jack's dossier. That stuff was brutal.

[Brass_Buckles]

Well my comment about thinking Garrus will be a cameo inspired a poll regarding Garrus and Tali.  But I fail at poll links!

Can someone help?

Modifié par Brass_Buckles, 08 octobre 2010 - 12:14 .