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[nekhbet]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

This happens to me all the time.  Just go talk to Garrus again and it will go through the loop "part of me still thinks we're crazy" conversation.  Reaffirm the romance and then go back up to your quarters and you should be able to click on  a computer near the case full of ship models.  It will say "invite Garrus up."  I hate that bug.  It's really annoying.

I figure it's because the poor guy still can't believe Shepard wants to shag him, so post-O4 he's having a momentary denial of what happened. Shep needs to assure him she really wants him and not the priiiiize. Or something.

[silentstephi]

I finally, after months of trying and failing, have been able to get an MShep past Eden Prime. So I'm playing this Shep, (Ron) as a Derpy Straight Edge Paragon (who has some how managed to lead both Ash and Liara along.. not sure how, since Kaidan/Liara are pretty fast with FemShep about getting locked in... I smell a gender disparity....).



This is the first time I've actually listened to MShep... and MAN he sounds like he rips Garrus a new one every time he opens his mouth.

It saddens me. It shows you really how much of a Renegade Garrus is.

This is just game one! I'll have more thoughts once I hit game two. :3

[camoboy_19]

Just popped over from the Tali thread to say Garrus is my buddeh. I usually take him and Tali on most of my missions, they're usually my squad on the suicide mission near the end of it (Garrus leads the 2nd squad most of the time, Tali goes through vents).



That is all.

[camoboy_19]

silentstephi wrote...

I finally, after months of trying and failing, have been able to get an MShep past Eden Prime. So I'm playing this Shep, (Ron) as a Derpy Straight Edge Paragon (who has some how managed to lead both Ash and Liara along.. not sure how, since Kaidan/Liara are pretty fast with FemShep about getting locked in... I smell a gender disparity....).

This is the first time I've actually listened to MShep... and MAN he sounds like he rips Garrus a new one every time he opens his mouth.
It saddens me. It shows you really how much of a Renegade Garrus is.
This is just game one! I'll have more thoughts once I hit game two. :3

Garrus is pretty renegady in the first one, I kept telling him to Calm the hell down. didn't do much good apparantly if he goes on *ss-whupping spree on Omega. The only bit of Garrus's renegade I saw in ME2 was on his loyalty mission, which was my Shepard spamming "DONT DO IT!!!!"

[Sialater]

Well, Shepard's kind of an ass to the aliens in ME1 regardless. I mean, look what she says to Wrex.



That being said, I wish there were less ****y paragon replies to Garrus in ME1.

[silentstephi]

camoboy_19 wrote...

silentstephi wrote...

I finally, after months of trying and failing, have been able to get an MShep past Eden Prime. So I'm playing this Shep, (Ron) as a Derpy Straight Edge Paragon (who has some how managed to lead both Ash and Liara along.. not sure how, since Kaidan/Liara are pretty fast with FemShep about getting locked in... I smell a gender disparity....).

This is the first time I've actually listened to MShep... and MAN he sounds like he rips Garrus a new one every time he opens his mouth.
It saddens me. It shows you really how much of a Renegade Garrus is.
This is just game one! I'll have more thoughts once I hit game two. :3

Garrus is pretty renegady in the first one, I kept telling him to Calm the hell down. didn't do much good apparantly if he goes on *ss-whupping spree on Omega. The only bit of Garrus's renegade I saw in ME2 was on his loyalty mission, which was my Shepard spamming "DONT DO IT!!!!"

He def has seemed to chillax a bit between games, I'm just kinda surprised at the bit of difference between a FemShep Paragon's tone and MSheps.  I've played the game with like... five or six fems?  Mostly Renegade (because I'm apparently evil, er something) because it's more fun, but a few paragons (who yes, I admit, I trash my paragons.  They have the most angsty, crappy lives pre and post game... I'm a horrible person... XD) so I figured, since my Fems tend on the Renegade, I'll start off with a Paragon of LIGHT! (Ah la Lawful stupid).

Derp.

[camoboy_19]

Sialater wrote...

Well, Shepard's kind of an ass to the aliens in ME1 regardless. I mean, look what she says to Wrex.

That being said, I wish there were less ****y paragon replies to Garrus in ME1.

Garrus needed that kick. My Shepard in ME1 was pretty much Pro-Alien, anti-Xenophobia. Garrus was going to end up bad if I didn't help him. Think of it as tough love if you like romancing him in ME2

[silentstephi]

OH speaking of Romance...

Did anyone else find the Shadow Broker's brief assessment of Garrus... a bit close to the mark? And hopefully not a portent of things to come?



(I won't post it here unless asked.)



But suffice to say, I saw it, read it... and went... Well.. yea... and got an uncomfortable fidget. -.-

[camoboy_19]

silentstephi wrote...

OH speaking of Romance...
Did anyone else find the Shadow Broker's brief assessment of Garrus... a bit close to the mark? And hopefully not a portent of things to come?

(I won't post it here unless asked.)

But suffice to say, I saw it, read it... and went... Well.. yea... and got an uncomfortable fidget. -.-

I only brought Tali on that so far, Shadow Broker delivers punch below the belt about a previous event in ME2.

[silentstephi]

camoboy_19 wrote...

silentstephi wrote...

OH speaking of Romance...
Did anyone else find the Shadow Broker's brief assessment of Garrus... a bit close to the mark? And hopefully not a portent of things to come?

(I won't post it here unless asked.)

But suffice to say, I saw it, read it... and went... Well.. yea... and got an uncomfortable fidget. -.-

I only brought Tali on that so far, Shadow Broker delivers punch below the belt about a previous event in ME2.

It's actually something from the Dossiers.  Not what he says about Archangel having a bounty.  That's just a given.  I mean... hell, I bet EVERY SINGLE PERSON on Shep's team has a price.

It's in the Dossier's before you get into the details.  The SB's little... summary.

[camoboy_19]

silentstephi wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

silentstephi wrote...

OH speaking of Romance...
Did anyone else find the Shadow Broker's brief assessment of Garrus... a bit close to the mark? And hopefully not a portent of things to come?

(I won't post it here unless asked.)

But suffice to say, I saw it, read it... and went... Well.. yea... and got an uncomfortable fidget. -.-

I only brought Tali on that so far, Shadow Broker delivers punch below the belt about a previous event in ME2.

It's actually something from the Dossiers.  Not what he says about Archangel having a bounty.  That's just a given.  I mean... hell, I bet EVERY SINGLE PERSON on Shep's team has a price.

It's in the Dossier's before you get into the details.  The SB's little... summary.

Oh. OH. Yeah that. Truth hurts, lol. Not cool Shadow Broker, though. Not. Cool.

[General Ashous]

I wonder who on Shepard's team doesn't have a price on their head! Everyone could be sold to someone for something. At least Garrus would go down fighting and would rather die than be captured, at least that's what I think.

[silentstephi]

General Ashous wrote...

I wonder who on Shepard's team doesn't have a price on their head! Everyone could be sold to someone for something. At least Garrus would go down fighting and would rather die than be captured, at least that's what I think.

Depends on the situation.  I could def see being captured as not something high on his priority list...

You think that just by working WITH Shepard, the squad mates are worth something?

On their own, lets see:

Garrus - herp derp, Omega/Archangel, yea, there's a bounty
Miri - Daddy wants her back bad, there's a bounty
Jack - BOUNTY
Zaeed - If Vito's still alive, hell yea, there's a price on his head
Kasumi - Master Thief... yup
Thane - well know assassin, has probably off'd someone of interest that others want retaliation for
Tali - Daughter to a Quarian Admiral, geth scavenger, huh, be funny if the geth had a price for her, but that's not really plausible
Legion - A geth unlike any other, that's novelty value right thar
Samara - Probably not in asari space, but elsewhere?  Fair game
Mordin - Krogans would probably have a few words to say to the Scientist Salarian, I could see him having a price on his head
Grunt - if for no other reason to study the hell out of him and his perfect genes

The one squad mate I'm having a hard time finding a reason for a price on his head is Jacob.  I mean, if I had played Galaxy, maybe I'd have something to offer, but he's just a grunt.  A grunt without a compelling reason to be on someone's hit list, unless it's a batarian connected to whatever the hell the plot was in ME Gal.

As for the ME1 squaddies:

Ash - Um... she's another grunt.  Moving on
Kaidan - Vernus have any friends who might have a beef with Alenko?  Idk this one's a bit flimsy
Liara - DLC.  'Nuff said
Wrex - I can think of plenty of krogan who don't want to follow along with Urdnot's plans that would want to off the King

Thoughts?  Keep in mind, I haven't really read any of the rest of the dossiers (I think I've read all of Garrus's, Legion's (LULZ), Thane's and Miri's, because I know have a way to sympathize with the woman) so I could be missing some interesting points.

[General Ashous]

Not just because they're working with Shepard it's just because he/she brings them to him. I can agree with those. As for Jacob, rivals of Cerberus would probably like a 'chat' with him. Indeed, in Galaxy there is a batarian ambassador that would probably pay nicely for him.

Modifié par General Ashous, 08 octobre 2010 - 09:31 .

[Tyrium]

re Jacob - maybe someone overheard the priiiiiize. That's reason enough to want him dead

[Sable Rhapsody]

Hazzel42 wrote...

If Garrus dies in ME3 I can see an organized bunch of angry and wailing Clan V members storming Bioware HQ :-P

If Garrus dies in ME3 I'm killing off my FemShep for mercy's sake.  i rarely make characters who are as messed up as my Dexter-lite meets Spock, emotionally arms-length Paragade FemShep, but Mass Effect seemed like a good forum for a character like that.  No regrets about it, but if the most important person to her in the world dies, it's going to be pretty damn bad.  I'll give them their nice little Lost sideways universe ending.  Yay for fanfic.

camoboy_19 wrote...
 Oh. OH. Yeah that. Truth hurts, lol. Not cool Shadow Broker, though. Not. Cool.

I really liked that, actually.  Maybe it's because I like putting Garrus and FemShep through the wringer, but the Shadow Broker is absolutely right, perhaps more so if you play with a Paragon or Paragade Shepard who curbs Garrus's natural Renegade tendencies a lot.  That being said, I feel like the same can be said of a lot of the other team members.  Everyone gets overshadowed by Shep.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 08 octobre 2010 - 09:39 .

[silentstephi]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Hazzel42 wrote...

If Garrus dies in ME3 I can see an organized bunch of angry and wailing Clan V members storming Bioware HQ :-P

If Garrus dies in ME3 I'm killing off my FemShep for mercy's sake.  i rarely make characters who are as messed up as my Dexter-lite meets Spock, emotionally arms-length Paragade FemShep, but Mass Effect seemed like a good forum for a character like that.  No regrets about it, but if the most important person to her in the world dies, it's going to be pretty damn bad.  I'll give them their nice little Lost sideways universe ending.  Yay for fanfic.

camoboy_19 wrote...
 Oh. OH. Yeah that. Truth hurts, lol. Not cool Shadow Broker, though. Not. Cool.

I really liked that, actually.  Maybe it's because I like putting Garrus and FemShep through the wringer, but the Shadow Broker is absolutely right, perhaps more so if you play with a Paragon or Paragade Shepard who curbs Garrus's natural Renegade tendencies a lot.  That being said, I feel like the same can be said of a lot of the other team members.  Everyone gets overshadowed by Shep.

Firstly, if Garrus bites it in ME3... yea, there's at leat two Shepards dead.  I'll kill them, finish the game that way, and find out what the "real" ending is with my other Shepards.

I like the character THAT MUCH.  Also, I HATE games that do that.  For the record. : /

As for the SB stuff, I can def see it for the Paragon/'gade that stifles his natural leanings.  But for all us Renegades that are right there with him?  Harsh.  But yea, it's true of pretty much any of the potential leaders in the squad to be over shadowed by Shepard.  He's the most visible (and hell, HE is my Alpha Shep's XO, not Miri) so I guess I just focused on him when it came to the SB's comment.

Do you think it's a weakness of character for him to stay with Shepard instead of fully developing his leadership skills?
Personally?  I don't.   Why?  Cause I can understand the mentality. 
Plus, a relationship with Shepard will deliciously complecate things. XD

[Giggles_Manically]

If Garrus cant survive ME3 I will return it to the store.



Same thing with well all the other squadmates.

Forced noble sacrifices like in Halo Reach, or Metroid Prime are STUPID.

[nekhbet]

I'm not sure if I'll buy ME3 without some of the current squadmates. Might, but not sure.



It's just too much of a disappointment if we need to gather yet another team, not to mention killing off/getting rid of the characters BioWare has made us love so far. Getting rid of good characters shouldn't happen without a bloody good reason.

[fallele]

I feel like Shepard's changed a bit herself (basing on my paragon shepard) since the whole dying thing, I noticed that in ME1 that her responces to people were more static...one of those "everybody expects me to say this" , examples of this would be where she rips into people for risky ventures, talking with the reporter with the interview trying to talk Saren out of the indoctrination. She never really made decisions for herself, then again she didn't have much choice in the matter with so many people judging her. though during the attack on Saren's base on Vermire and giving the asari the chance to escape Garrus says "you enjoyed that didn't you?" i would have responded with a "hell yeah!" *brofist*

But in ME2 she's opened up more, enough so parts of the old crew pick on her. I had a very consistent evil grin as i retargeted the heavy mech during Garrus' recruitment mission.

Garrus/Sidonis, he so was focused on revenge that he was blind to everything else. i was shifting in my seat during the crucial moment, then i listened to Sidonis' story, Garrus' lets him go, i get the grey conversation. and in the end i'm shaking my head at the screen. its one of those food for thought moments i have to say.

[General Ashous]

I once thought like Garrus, about revenge. However, like Garrus, I realised that revenge only makes you hollow and empty inside, it rots you from the inside out. I could really empathis ewith Garrus at that moment. I understood what he was going through and felt happy for him that he let it go. I also like the gray conversation because it really does describe the world we live in.

[Evelinessa]

Hello, I'm new to the BioWare forums. I've been reading some of the other Garrus threads and I wanted to say that Garrus is my favorite character and you have my full support. I have to say though that I'm nervous that he won't be in ME3 or just be a cameo. I mostly think so because he and any other ME2 characters can die and he doesn't really seem like he has alot he can do story wise. I'm also worried about Garrus' dossier like someone else said.

[Xsause]

Welcome to the boards, Evelinessa! Be sure to join Clan Vakarian for some more Garrus-related lulz, discussion and fun.