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[General Ashous]

I think that sounds about right. No history and friendship, no romance. Same as life then.

[Eliantariel]

But the other ME2 LIs (except Tali) develop quite fast feelings for Shepard - even without history.



I think for Garrus it shows that he is really (normally) not into humans and that his romance with Shepard is unique and only possible because he knows her for so long and really comes to care for her. I think it surprised him when he finally realised what Shepard means to him.



I know you had the topic for which LI Garrus would go if Shepard was not into him - but this is the reason why I think he would not develop feelings for an other human but go for a turian female instead (I must admit I read your thread now regularly since weeks and I very like your passionate discussion of turians and of course Garrus, who is beside Joker my favourite character)

[Twilight_Princess]

^ I agree, shepard is the exception to him.

[Evelinessa]

I just reloaded a save right before Garrus' romance scene and I had no clipping issues. I don't know if it matters that I have the Xbox 360 version.

That's great that the romance can only happen because of their history. Now I like the romance even more. I don't know why someone wouldn't recruit him though he's really likable and it wouldn't hurt to have more squadmates.

Edit: fixed some typos.

Modifié par Evelinessa, 16 octobre 2010 - 11:15 .

[Twilight_Princess]

I have the xbox version too, weird, what causes that?

heres the clipping I experienced 7:00





I honestly thought this was normal and happened to everyone

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 16 octobre 2010 - 11:36 .

[Evelinessa]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

I have the xbox version too, weird, what causes that?

heres the clipping I experienced 7:00

I honestly thought this was normal and happened to everyone

Hm, thats weird because I think when I first saw the romance scene the clipping happened, I vaguely remember it so I could be wrong but I know when I just reloaded it that didn't happen. So I don't know if it's a random thing or It happens for some people and not others. I also was wearing a different outfit, the one Dr. Chakwas wears.

[silentstephi]

The clipping issue is a hit or miss. I've seen it a few times in my many play through on different Shepards with different casual outfits.



The ones with gloves tend to clip more often than the bare handed ones, but that's not empirical by any stretch of the imagination. XD



And if you didn't recruit Garrus in Me1, it makes oodles of sense to not be able to 'mance him in 2. I like that. A lot, actually. Gives more meaning to the relationship.



Pacifen, about the turian tats inside and out of turian space -

Yet another reason why I'd love to go to a turian world and SEE or hear about or get some of their lore. Thinking about it and looking at the timeline, the Unification Wars happened almost 2500 years ago. Think of where human history was at a time like that: hell, think of human history in general, we've seen empires rise and fall in all that time, and had many cultural changes. Is there anything that's remained a constant? In all that time? (Religion is really the only thing that comes to mind.) Granted, it's not the same since we're still on just the one planet and our technology wasn't up to the same criteria... but for something that happened 2500 years ago, and for it to still be effecting their culture now? It could be just something that a percentage gives lip service to, another percentage could take it or leave it, another percentage is hardcore for or against it, etc.



Ya know? XD

[Timerider42]

Chimervera wrote...

silentstephi wrote...

The Turian Trivia Wiki sez...
According to The Art of Mass Effect, turian ships incorporated layers of plates to roughly symbolize the feathered appearance of the turians themselves.

...
Feathered appearance? Um, are we looking at the same thing? I don't see feathered. I see spines, plating. But not feathery.

The art book does actually say that. I think "plated appearance" would have fit better.

I have pics of the ships scanned from the art book - I would have posted them earlier, but I needed to check if it was okay to do so. (If you're reading this, Pacifien, thanks for responding so quickly!)

<image clip>

Reminds me of Halo-universe ships, or possibly Dead Space.

[Kim Shepard]

I agree that the Garrus romance not being available to FemSheps who refused to recruit him in ME1 is great. It makes sense for his character that a relationship based on respect and trust wouldn't happen if Shepard didn't even want him around two years ago. I think it would be nice if more of the romance interests had standards like that. If I remember correctly, aside from losing loyalty in a conflict, there are only two other times that this happens - Jacob if Shepard bothers him too much about his father, and Jack if Shepard takes the first opportunity Renegade romance scene. I mean, Liara still liked my MaleShep when he was mean to her. They did it right with Garrus, and I'd like to see more of that.

Evelinessa wrote...

I watched the rejection scene also which was very hard to watch. I was curious of the death scenes but now.... I should probably watch the romance scene so I can feel better.

Or watch videos of every romance conversation in order. Then the dancing turian, and the dancing Garrus mod. xD

Garrus is pretty high on the death priority lists...that worrys me, I hope they don't reduce him to a cameo because he's fairly easy to kill. I don't know why anyone would import a Shepard where alot of the squadmates died unless they specifically wanted those characters out of ME3. I think ME3 should be all old characters and maybe 2-4 new ones.

Just remember, it's a lot harder to kill squadmates off than it is to save them. The main ways to kill Garrus are by not doing his loyalty mission or not getting the ship upgrade (and the only way to miss those is by not talking to him at all). Even so, other squadmates need to be killed off and/or not recruited for him to die by lack of ship upgrade. If he dies because of those reasons, it was on purpose. As far as I can tell, the only way to accidentally kill him off would be to bring him with the wrong biotic specialist, and neither Thane or Jack. Anyone can be killed off with enough work, but the important thing is that he's hard to kill by accident. There are exceptions, of course. I'm probably one of the few people who got Miranda killed by accident.

Anyway, I think all of the squadmates have very good chances of being in ME3, most likely as squadmates but at least in an important role, especially the romance interests. But that's just based on the logic that it would be best for ME3 and trust that BioWare will make a great game as always.

Modifié par Kim Shepard, 17 octobre 2010 - 05:50 .

[GuardianAngel470]

I wrote a very long fan fiction with Garrus as the central protagonist. Would any of you be interested in reading it?

[Kim Shepard]

I'm sure a lot of people here would read it. (I normally don't read fanfics though.)

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

I'd have thought that everyone here would have migrated to Clan V by now...

But Hey Garrus is awesome enough to have multiple groups/threads.

[Kim Shepard]

A lot of Clan V is for off-topic. We try to keep most of the Garrus and turian discussion here so others can join in.

[fallele]

errrr heh heh, drew this while i was at work today:



Shepard has a secret Garrus plushie...i just noticed that i made poor Garrus look like the pokemon Torchic a bit....Also...
I saw a person dressed up as Garrus today as i was heading out to lunch and had a small conversation with him after he had a small accident. sad part was...i didn't have my camera phone with me. arrrgh!
Garrus Cosplayer: *walking down ramp*
Me: *watching in stunned disbelief*
Garrus Cosplayer: *not watching where he was going walks straight into a large advertisement sign knocking it and himself over*
Me: *still watching, but decided to give him a hand back on two legs*
Garrus C: *sheepish look* uhhh thanks?
Me: No prob' s, decided to calibrate the sign huh?
Garrus C: you could say that
Me: Won't Shepard be jealous over this?
Garrus C: *sighs* i forgot she always likes to savour the last shot...
Me: waiiiiiit a minute.....
Garrus C:  that metaphor just went somewhere horrible....

[Xsause]

D'aww, Torchic!Garrus is cute.

[Evelinessa]

Kim Shepard wrote...

I agree that the Garrus romance not being available to FemSheps who refused to recruit him in ME1 is great. It makes sense for his character that a relationship based on respect and trust wouldn't happen if Shepard didn't even want him around two years ago. I think it would be nice if more of the romance interests had standards like that. If I remember correctly, aside from losing loyalty in a conflict, there are only two other times that this happens - Jacob if Shepard bothers him too much about his father, and Jack if Shepard takes the first opportunity Renegade romance scene. I mean, Liara still liked my MaleShep when he was mean to her. They did it right with Garrus, and I'd like to see more of that.

Definitely. I like the romance more now. The romance wouldn't make much sense if he wasn't recruited in the first game. I have high hopes for where the romance is going in ME3.

Just remember, it's a lot harder to kill squadmates off than it is to save them. The main ways to kill Garrus are by not doing his loyalty mission or not getting the ship upgrade (and the only way to miss those is by not talking to him at all). Even so, other squadmates need to be killed off and/or not recruited for him to die by lack of ship upgrade. If he dies because of those reasons, it was on purpose. As far as I can tell, the only way to accidentally kill him off would be to bring him with the wrong biotic specialist, and neither Thane or Jack. Anyone can be killed off with enough work, but the important thing is that he's hard to kill by accident. There are exceptions, of course. I'm probably one of the few people who got Miranda killed by accident.

Anyway, I think all of the squadmates have very good chances of being in ME3, most likely as squadmates but at least in an important role, especially the romance interests. But that's just based on the logic that it would be best for ME3 and trust that BioWare will make a great game as always.

I hope so. He's got an advantage from being popular, a romance interest, and being in both games. I have a hard time thinking they'll drop Garrus but I just get worried especially when I read other threads where people will say the doubt the ME2 squademates will come back. I can't see the characters having too much of an important role though because they can die. At least not a role where you can't finish the game without them.

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

I wrote a very long fan fiction with Garrus as the central protagonist. Would any of you be interested in reading it?

I would read it.

fallele wrote...

I saw a person dressed up as Garrus today as i was heading out to lunch and had a small conversation with him

I love your drawing! And that's awesome running into a Garrus cosplayer. Were you near a video game/anime convention? I probably wouldn't know what to say to him.

@Xsause

I looked at your screenshots in the OP and I love them! They're very funny!

Modifié par Evelinessa, 17 octobre 2010 - 01:33 .

[Eliantariel]

Maybe this was already discussed (forgive me that I did not check all the previous posts) but do you think turians can pull their claws inside like a cat?



I think we never got to see a turian with bare hands but with clothes - maybe the cloth is thick enough that their claws does not damage it.



I think with such sharp claws it would be quite difficult for turians to work with different species together, because in their daily doing it could often lead to accidents.



Alternatively, they could cut them down so that their claws are not longer sharp enough to be a threat.

[Evelinessa]

Eliantariel wrote...

Maybe this was already discussed (forgive me that I did not check all the previous posts) but do you think turians can pull their claws inside like a cat?

I think we never got to see a turian with bare hands but with clothes - maybe the cloth is thick enough that their claws does not damage it.

I think with such sharp claws it would be quite difficult for turians to work with different species together, because in their daily doing it could often lead to accidents.

Alternatively, they could cut them down so that their claws are not longer sharp enough to be a threat.

I think they may be able to trim them but I don't think they can pull in their claws. But I want to see a turian without gloves on. With the gloves I don't think they would hurt anybody, like in Garrus' romance scene he wears gloves and he goes to grab Shepards arm. It doesn't show after that but I think he wouldn't have hurt her.

[Eliantariel]

I am sure that Garrus would never intentionally do something that could hurt Shepard.



A turian/human pairing might be rare but I think outside of Palaven turians are quite often together with asari (well - turian females are rare too) - like the pair in one of the Citadel shops. Asari seem to have "normal" skin (compared to turian skin) like humans - so I think there are ways for turians to take precaution that the partner is not being hurt.

[ciaweth]

I expect they could just file/smooth down the points of their talons. Seems like operating on a day to day basis with razor sharp talons would be a pain in the butt--try putting on your clothes in the morning with a torn nail that snags on everything, and you'll see what I mean.

[Eradyn]

Turians probably have tough enough skin to not stab themselves to death but humans...well...humans are easy enough to nick (as shown in the CDN report). I imagine that's why they wear gloves all the time, to keep from inadvertently killing all the softer-skinned species. I also concur with the idea of filing down the tip. Maybe not to where it's very rounded, but I can see them doing that to try and keep the point from being too sharp.

[ciaweth]

Yeah, that CDN thing about the turian accidentally nicking the human journalist's jugular...ugh. FILE THEM NAILS, BRO.



Then again, I'm pretty sure that turian was roughing up the journalist, else why were his talons near the human's neck? OOPS. Sad ending to that story.

[Evelinessa]

Eliantariel wrote...

I am sure that Garrus would never intentionally do something that could hurt Shepard. 

Yeah, I know. I probably worded it wrong. I meant that him wearing gloves would have stopped him from hurting Shepard.

[General Ashous]

Indeed, Garrus could never harm Shepard (male or female). He's too close to them. He's either in a romane with her or he's Garrus' best friend and that's what matters to him. He would never risk that. I wonder why he never mentioned his mother's condition to Shepard though.

[Hazzel42]

I'm sure Garrus didn't mention his mother to Shepard (male or female) because he didn't want to add to the burdens Shep already has. I'm also sure he figured there wasn't a lot Shep could do to help so he's doing his best to deal with his own issues like a good Turian most likely would.