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GuardianAngel470 wrote...

ciaweth wrote...

They always looked sort of gunmetal blue to me.


You have to keep in mind that his armor is blue. Very blue. That's why I think they're gray.

I'm looking at a picture of it right now.  I am keeping that in mind.  They look gunmetal blue to me.

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I can't find a picture of ME1 that is close enough to tell. I'll never be able to tell on my tv since it's SD and small. But from the ME2 videos his eyes look grey to me. I'll try to see if I can tell when I'm playing.

Edit:

Do you have a link of the picture?

Modifié par Evelinessa, 24 octobre 2010 - 06:17 .


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It would seem that the texture ME2's model has his eyes absurdly blue.
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The source.

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Definitely blue I think. I have seen Garrus fanart where his eyes are yellow or grey though so it may just be in my head he have blue eyes.

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Anyways, Garrus is my second in command. I don't care about Miranda.

I wholeheartedly agree. In some private occasions he is even first in command sometimes.

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aznsoisauce wrote...

It would seem that the texture ME2's model has his eyes absurdly blue.
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The source.


Ooh, interesting. Very interesting. :happy:

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Hmm, yes they are blue but when I see videos he doesn't have blue eyes. Maybe I'm just not seeing it right.


lovgreno wrote...

Evelinessa wrote...
Anyways, Garrus is my second in command. I don't care about Miranda.

I wholeheartedly agree. In some private occasions he is even first in command sometimes.


Definitely. Posted Image

Oh, I so want Garrus in ME3 and to continue the romance. I keep reading threads about peoples opinions on who will return. I get so happy when people think he will and sad when people think he won't.Posted Image

What are you guys opinions on his chances of returning as a squadmate? Or what his role could be?

I hope they don't pull something at the begining where we lose all our squadmates and are gone for a year or something.

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I used to read those theories as well, but now I quit it, because it saddens me sometimes. I trust Bioware to make the right decisions concerning our squaddies.



Well we can kill them off, but it is quite hard to do this and more naturally to play doing all loyality quests and upgrades and saving everyone.



As for the squaddies: what sense is there to introduce everyone and to make LIs, if they do not play a role in ME3? And do not forget: Garrus is very popular, but I think all LIs, despite their popularity will get the same devolopment in ME3 and not treated different. And I suppose Bioware knows that romances are always very important for the fans, so I really can't see why Bioware should not continue them.



So I am confident that Garrus romance will continue in ME3 - if Garrus will be a squadmate from the beginning of the game I don't know, but I think he will return as a squadmate and LI :)



And I am quite hopefull that Bioware decides to give the players different possibilities concerning the end of the game: those who would like to sacrifice their Shep should get this possibility, but those who like to have the all happy end together with their LI (and they lived happily ever after...) should get this too (and I really want this :) ).



Garrus love forever :)

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Eliantariel wrote...

And I am quite hopefull that Bioware decides to give the players different possibilities concerning the end of the game: those who would like to sacrifice their Shep should get this possibility, but those who like to have the all happy end together with their LI (and they lived happily ever after...) should get this too (and I really want this :) ).


Now THAT would be ideal.  Realistic, I'm not sure, but definitely we can hope :)

Garrus love forever :)


Absolutely this!! :wub::wub:

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Hey all, i return from a weekend of drinking (non alcoholic wine), partying and recovery...though i have no clear idea as to why i'm a bit  hungover. as per Garrus' eyes http://social.biowar...dex/1296298/405
about halfway down Silentstephi's post has some pretty good closeups. including the derp eyes on the first picture. 
my opinion, Garrus has expressive eyes, meaning that they tend to slightly change colour depending on lighting and mood. they're pretty similar to my eye colour actually, so i'd say they have a mixture of blue and green in them. My eye colour depending on lighting has blue, green and gold that lightens or darkens depending on my mood.

Now as per the opinion of Garrus in ME3: (this may be wall 'o text so please bear with me)

Garrus, well we don't actually know that much about him...well virtually next to nothing. we just know that he used to work in C-Sec, his father works there as well, he grew up on Palaven and his past conquest. unlike Kaiden or Ash which in ME1 explain about their childhood and family and "goldbricking" *shakes head*. So both Garrus and Tali are the most enigmatic out of most of the LI's...besides Jack...i think.
Also in Lair of the Shadow Broker at the end if Shep has romanced Garrus, Liara asks Shep if she's doing all of this to give Garrus a chance at happiness. Shep admits that "i'd never thought i'd find peace in the arms of a turian". Even Kasumi comments saying that the pair should go for it.
So personally I can't really see why they wouldn't put Garrus in ME3, he doesn't really have anywhere to go or belong right now except by the Commander's side. Besides BW has left enough room for Garrus to be included in ME3 as well as leaving enough room for the relationship to grow and be explored.

As an extra (Part One) i wonder what Garrus did during the two year space between the destruction of the Normandy and when Shep finds him again. Aria said he'd come several months back, and he'd left C-Sec after a few months when Shep questions TIM about him. so for anywhere between 6-10 months he's being a vigilante and for 3-5 months he was at C-Sec. so out of 24 months anywhere between 9 and 15 months is accounted for, i wonder what happend for the rest of that time.

As an extra (Part 2) has anyone noticed when first speaking to Jacob on the other Cerberus station and a little before that just how much like Garrus he is (during ME1 at least)? with all of the refferences to "Red Tape" and leaving to join Cerberus because they actually DID something? sound like anyone we know?Posted Image

Also between leadership between Garrus and Miranda? Garrus has more experience on the front lines than Miranda. Miranda makes a good stratagist but when it comes to leading people only Mordin, Garrus and Shep have the spark that lets people know that they're going to come out of this safely and in one piece.

Modifié par fallele, 25 octobre 2010 - 06:03 .


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I for one *seriously* doubt that many, if ANY, of the characters will die canonly. They seem to roll with maleShep paragon, which means he would have saved all the companions. This means, most likely, that if you were to play ME3 with no import, all teammates would be alive and *maybe* only one or two dead, possibly Jack, Thane, and Legion, (unless Kasumi becomes more than DLC, in which case, Kasumi instead of Legion) for obvious "upgrade" reasons and realism. I for one fully believe that all teammates will come back, all with full character and squad member roles. I imagine, however, that you might not be able to recruit everyone from both ME1 and ME2 due to either a time constraint or some other plot element... or perhaps I am wrong, and you could recruit them all. Either way, I believe they will all be available, and all romance interests will continue. It is very much so bioware (I trust) to keep these characters. The only two squaddies who may not be available outside of the "upgrade" situation (this is dependent on information I am aware of) are Thane and Mordin, depending on how much time is in between ME2 and ME3.

erm... yes. I completely believe all characters (without exception) will either make a come back or have a good (and satisfactory) ending for not being there. Ending could mean death, or lack of loyalty/has duties (Wrex probably is the prime example of this, as much as I hate to admit), or betrayal (I'm actually worried that cheating on Liara with Garrus will get me shot in the foot or something worse.)

Sorry if I got off topic... just putting it out there. TLDR; There is no doubt in my mind that they will be back, especially a squaddie as important as Garrus or Tali. I trust bioware with that much.

Modifié par IndelibleJester, 25 octobre 2010 - 06:13 .


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if not there will be us tear-streaked fans right outside their door with torches and pitchforks Posted Image

looking back on the end of my own post..i just realised how much i made it look like a terminator moment  "come with me if you want to live" i can actually imagine Mordin saying that. while wearing a pair of shades of course

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fallele wrote...

if not there will be us tear-streaked fans right outside their door with torches and pitchforks Posted Image

looking back on the end of my own post..i just realised how much i made it look like a terminator moment  "come with me if you want to live" i can actually imagine Mordin saying that. while wearing a pair of shades of course


Mordin is so awesome, honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone's heads exploded due to Mass Effect 3 being one giant Mordin sing along game while shooting reapers with a really big gun.

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pfffft, whahahahaha, i'm doubled over in laughter with that, killed by Mordin karaoke! my god you're good!

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ROFL - that's epic win right there. Though, you need a Shep, Mordin and Garrus singalong to beat the final boss

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LOL, suddenly it turned into:

Anderson commentator: Welcome to Mass Effect Idol, with our lovely judge pannel...
*camera pans to table*
AC: First we have Reaper, a member of the Reapers out to harvest society folks, lets just hope he waits until after the show before starting on his rampage and pillaging
Reaper: YOU WILL BE DESTROYED!
AC: Ha ha ha, next we have our most beautiful judge, a member of the legenday asari Justicars, Samara!
Samara: May the goddess watch over you
AC: and you Samara, next we have the Turian Councilor, he's been forced into this because he lost a bet with the other Councilors over the death of Commander Shepard
Turian Councilor: *looking freaked out at Reaper on the opposite end of the table* gulp
AC: Ha ha, Reaper got your tongue there?
TC: *shifts chair slightly away*
AC: and last and not least back by unpopular demand we have ex-ambassador Udina who has also been forced into this by my order i might add, how the jaw Udina?
Udina: *Glares*
AC: Ha Ha, well its best we get under way, first up we have professor Mordin Solis singing Gilbert and Sullivan

Modifié par fallele, 25 octobre 2010 - 11:22 .


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Eliantariel wrote...

I used to read those theories as well, but now I quit it, because it saddens me sometimes. I trust Bioware to make the right decisions concerning our squaddies.

Well we can kill them off, but it is quite hard to do this and more naturally to play doing all loyality quests and upgrades and saving everyone.

As for the squaddies: what sense is there to introduce everyone and to make LIs, if they do not play a role in ME3? And do not forget: Garrus is very popular, but I think all LIs, despite their popularity will get the same devolopment in ME3 and not treated different. And I suppose Bioware knows that romances are always very important for the fans, so I really can't see why Bioware should not continue them.

So I am confident that Garrus romance will continue in ME3 - if Garrus will be a squadmate from the beginning of the game I don't know, but I think he will return as a squadmate and LI :)

And I am quite hopefull that Bioware decides to give the players different possibilities concerning the end of the game: those who would like to sacrifice their Shep should get this possibility, but those who like to have the all happy end together with their LI (and they lived happily ever after...) should get this too (and I really want this :) ).

Garrus love forever :)


Yes, I agree. I just get doubtful sometimes. Especially when alot of other people don't think he will return. If one LI comes back then all of them have to come back.

ME2 would be pretty pointless if we have to lose our old team and build a whole new one. We will probably have some new team members though.

Yes! I want all kinds of different endings. I think that the ending with Shep and an LI and some other things should be a scene instead of text like DA but they could cover more with text and that would be easier. I definitely don't want to be forced to sacrifice Shepard though. That would make me sad.

Garrus love! Posted Image


fallele wrote...

Garrus, well we don't actually know that much about him...well virtually next to nothing. we just know that he used to work in C-Sec, his father works there as well, he grew up on Palaven and his past conquest. unlike Kaiden or Ash which in ME1 explain about their childhood and family and "goldbricking" *shakes head*. So both Garrus and Tali are the most enigmatic out of most of the LI's...besides Jack...i think.
Also in Lair of the Shadow Broker at the end if Shep has romanced Garrus, Liara asks Shep if she's doing all of this to give Garrus a chance at happiness. Shep admits that "i'd never thought i'd find peace in the arms of a turian". Even Kasumi comments saying that the pair should go for it.
So personally I can't really see why they wouldn't put Garrus in ME3, he doesn't really have anywhere to go or belong right now except by the Commander's side. Besides BW has left enough room for Garrus to be included in ME3 as well as leaving enough room for the relationship to grow and be explored.


Yes. The relationship could grow much more. The only reason he might leave is if the have a big time gap between games but the Reapers seem like they're really close.

fallele wrote...

As an extra (Part One) i wonder what Garrus did during the two year space between the destruction of the Normandy and when Shep finds him again. Aria said he'd come several months back, and he'd left C-Sec after a few months when Shep questions TIM about him. so for anywhere between 6-10 months he's being a vigilante and for 3-5 months he was at C-Sec. so out of 24 months anywhere between 9 and 15 months is accounted for, i wonder what happend for the rest of that time.

As an extra (Part 2) has anyone noticed when first speaking to Jacob on the other Cerberus station and a little before that just how much like Garrus he is (during ME1 at least)? with all of the refferences to "Red Tape" and leaving to join Cerberus because they actually DID something? sound like anyone we know?Posted Image

Also between leadership between Garrus and Miranda? Garrus has more experience on the front lines than Miranda. Miranda makes a good stratagist but when it comes to leading people only Mordin, Garrus and Shep have the spark that lets people know that they're going to come out of this safely and in one piece.


Yes. I want to learn more and I wondered that too. I want to know more about what he did when Shepard was dead. Was he on the Normandy when it was attacked? I forgot if that was mentioned.

Actually I didn't think of that when I was talking to Jacob. But that is just like Garrus. :)


IndelibleJester wrote...

I for one *seriously* doubt that many, if ANY, of the characters will die canonly. They seem to roll with maleShep paragon, which means he would have saved all the companions. This means, most likely, that if you were to play ME3 with no import, all teammates would be alive and *maybe* only one or two dead, possibly Jack, Thane, and Legion, (unless Kasumi becomes more than DLC, in which case, Kasumi instead of Legion) for obvious "upgrade" reasons and realism. I for one fully believe that all teammates will come back, all with full character and squad member roles. I imagine, however, that you might not be able to recruit everyone from both ME1 and ME2 due to either a time constraint or some other plot element... or perhaps I am wrong, and you could recruit them all. Either way, I believe they will all be available, and all romance interests will continue. It is very much so bioware (I trust) to keep these characters. The only two squaddies who may not be available outside of the "upgrade" situation (this is dependent on information I am aware of) are Thane and Mordin, depending on how much time is in between ME2 and ME3.

erm... yes. I completely believe all characters (without exception) will either make a come back or have a good (and satisfactory) ending for not being there. Ending could mean death, or lack of loyalty/has duties (Wrex probably is the prime example of this, as much as I hate to admit), or betrayal (I'm actually worried that cheating on Liara with Garrus will get me shot in the foot or something worse.)

Sorry if I got off topic... just putting it out there. TLDR; There is no doubt in my mind that they will be back, especially a squaddie as important as Garrus or Tali. I trust bioware with that much.


I hope you're right.

I think that at least half the squadmates will be alive in the default version. I hope that there will be most of them alive.

It seems that it would be unfair though if Thane died in between games for people who romanced him. Especially if they have other LIs come back.

Maybe ME3 will take place a couple months after ME2.


fallele wrote...

LOL, suddenly it turned into:

Anderson commentator: Welcome to Mass Effect Idol, with our lovely judge pannel...
*camera pans to table*
AC: First we have Reaper, a member of the Reapers out to harvest society folks, lets just hope he waits until after the show before starting on his rampage and pillaging
Reaper: YOU WILL BE DESTROYED!
AC: Ha ha ha, next we have our most beautiful judge, a member of the legenday asari Justicars, Samara!
Samara: May the goddess watch over you
AC: and you Samara, next we have the Turian Councilor, he's been forced into this because he lost a bet with the other Councilors over the death of Commander Shepard
Turian Councilor: *looking freaked out at Reaper on the opposite end of the table* gulp
AC: Ha ha, Reaper got your tongue there?
TC: *shifts chair slightly away*
AC: and last and not least back by unpopular demand we have ex-ambassador Udina who has also been forced into this by my order i might add, how the jaw Udina?
Udina: *Glares*
AC: Ha Ha, well its best we get under way, first up we have professor Mordin Solis singing Gilbert and Sullivan


Haha, that would be great.

Actually, I have never seen the Turian Councilor in ME2 and his "Ah, yes reapers" thing since I picked "Focus on Sovereign" in ME1 because I thought I was saving more lives. Then in ME2 they said there was 50,000 people on that ship. :(

Is the Councilor really bad?

(I think it's ok to talk about this since the thread is also Turian discussion. Right?)

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fallele wrote...
Also between leadership between Garrus and Miranda? Garrus has more experience on the front lines than Miranda. Miranda makes a good stratagist but when it comes to leading people only Mordin, Garrus and Shep have the spark that lets people know that they're going to come out of this safely and in one piece.

Miranda works great behind the desk while Garrus is definitely more of a man of action.

We should be allowed to give Mirandas office to Garrus or Tali though. I am all for treating LI's favourably. On the other hand they don't have any use for that bed as they now sleep in Shepards cabin... Okay, let Miranda keep her room, she deserves it after all.

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Evelinessa wrote...
Is the Councilor really bad?

(I think it's ok to talk about this since the thread is also Turian discussion. Right?)

The turian councilour is awesome and well worth keeping alive just for entertainment value.

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The funny thing about Garrus and his leadership abilities is that he is the only fireteam leader shown to have good leadership skills.



Miranda's was more of an inferred ability and Jacob just comes out of nowhere.

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lovgreno wrote...

We should be allowed to give Mirandas office to Garrus or Tali though. I am all for treating LI's favourably. On the other hand they don't have any use for that bed as they now sleep in Shepards cabin... Okay, let Miranda keep her room, she deserves it after all.


Yeah.

It would be awesome if in ME3 you can share the cabin with an LI. But that would never happen.

I thought it was weird that that second picture frame was never put to use. I was expecting Garrus' picture to be in it after I romanced him.

lovgreno wrote...

Evelinessa wrote...
Is the Councilor really bad?

(I think it's ok to talk about this since the thread is also Turian discussion. Right?)

The turian councilour is awesome and well worth keeping alive just for entertainment value.


Haha, yeah I can't wait to see it. :)

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Garrus is a fun character, definitely one of my favorites in the series.

What I don't get however is how people compare the relationship between Shepard and Garrus with a student/teacher one. I honestly never thought of it like that, the games didn't portray that at all. I always thought of him as a collegue who I can really get along with. But as a student? Not really. I do realize he admired you a bit in ME1 for being a Spectre though. Maybe that's just me (or my playthroughs).

Modifié par PearlSora, 25 octobre 2010 - 06:57 .


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nevermind this post, I'm completely slow.

Modifié par Pedpickle, 26 octobre 2010 - 04:18 .


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Tyrium wrote...

ROFL - that's epic win right there. Though, you need a Shep, Mordin and Garrus singalong to beat the final boss


Garrus on bass!  With Wrex on cowbell!

"Seasons don't fear the reaper...Nor do the wind, the sun or the rain...we can be like they are...Come on baby...don't fear the reaper..."

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Pedpickle wrote...

Hey guys, long time no see. :bandit:

I was reading the inquisition bit that came out today, and the turian counselor is pallin, not velarn.
Just letting you guys know. :lol:
(This shouldn't be a spoiler at all?)

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-edit-
unless of course we already knew it, then you can call me slow.
also, here's the link for the little bit of inquisition that's out.
Linky


Uh... Executor Pallin in game is an entirely different individual than the turian Councilor.