Calibrations: Garrus Love and Turian Discussion
#14001
Posté 25 octobre 2010 - 11:45
#14002
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 12:13
PearlSora wrote...
Garrus is a fun character, definitely one of my favorites in the series.
What I don't get however is how people compare the relationship between Shepard and Garrus with a student/teacher one. I honestly never thought of it like that, the games didn't portray that at all. I always thought of him as a collegue who I can really get along with. But as a student? Not really. I do realize he admired you a bit in ME1 for being a Spectre though. Maybe that's just me (or my playthroughs).
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I didn't think of it that way either (well at least not at first) but it's considered a student/teacher one because in ME1 you can sort of change how he thinks. If you choose mostly paragon choices when talking to him and with Dr. Saleon then in his final conversation he says what you taught him and decides to join C-Sec again after ME1. If you choose mostly renegade choices with him and Dr. Saleon then he says something different about what you taught him and that he will try to become a Spectre after ME1. Well, on my first playthrough I picked mostly renegade choices and tried to save Dr. Saleon, and he went the renegade way so it's whatever you pick most of the time.
#14003
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 01:14
#14004
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 02:04
Evelinessa wrote...
For people here who played both games:
Did you like Garrus' character more in ME2 then in ME1?
Did you like him equally?
Did you like him less?
Did you like him at all in ME1(I heard of some people who never liked him. Then in ME2 he becomes their favorite character)?
Did you want to romance him in ME1?
Garrus was my favorite character in ME1 and I wanted to romance him but I never took him with me aside from Dr. Saleon. In ME2 I liked him alot more. It helped that I could romance him and I took him on every mission. On my second playthrough of ME1 that I'm currently playing I'm going to have him in my squad at all times. I can't decide who else to bring though...
I got ME2 almost immediately after the first one, so the changes felt very immediate...It was clear right away, even just from the way he talked (as well as Tali, they'd clearly done some growing up...Kaiden's seemed lower, too...like he was still struggling with depression...but yeah, Garrus thread) that he had experienced much in those two years. Compared to the sequel, he's a boy scout. I prefer to play Paragon, so I was a little miffed that Shep's words didn't resonate with him as much. Still, I understood his motives and I enjoyed the change. That's what really makes an interesting character--they change over time. If they don't, they're static.
So overall I'd say I liked ME2 Garrus more, but the original Garrus helped me appreciate him.
Did I want to romance him in ME1? Hmm...how many of you would say you liked him from the very start? Anyone out there "converted", like me? I was skeptical at first, truthfully...I knew ahead that Garrus was popular. I thought, "How can a cat-bird dragon thing be so popular with girls?" But somewhere along the line I changed my mind. Hard to pinpoint...I'd say it's when you try to spare Dr. Saleon and such, and at the end he says, "I've never met anyone like you." I just found that to be very sweet.
I probably would have romanced him in ME 1 if I had the chance...but it feels right the way it is.
Evelinessa wrote...
Timerider42 wrote...
NitrAce wrote...
Woo Go Garrus!
http://www.joystickd...ing_charact.php
He needs to be higher than 8. More like 4 or 5.
That's great he made a list. And I agree he should be higher up.
Of course it's great that he's there...but frankly I find it a little insulted he was beaten by Midna! Zelda's a fine franchise, but Garrus, unlike the characters from that series, has...well...a personality. From what I call, Midna just teleported me and giggled a lot. But yeah, glad he's on there.
I looked back a good couple pages, so I hope this hasn't been shown before. I apologize if this is old news:
www.youtube.com/user/lasvegas
When the commercial aired, I wasn't really paying attention...I heard Garrus's voice say "My turn!" and my ears perked XD
#14005
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 03:52
Alexine wrote...
That's weird that they talked about Pallin in the comics rather than Chellick. Maybe they had two Executors for C-Sec? I mean, the Citadel's been run down, and the Geth attack during the events of ME1 would have prompted C-Sec to do emergency changes within the organisation. Since the dialogue with Garrus and that C-Sec guard about Executor Pallin's death was "cut", I'm assuming this.
Chellick was a detective, you talk to him during a small side quest involving Jena and her sister.
#14006
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 04:46
LessThanKate wrote...
I got ME2 almost immediately after the first one, so the changes felt very immediate...It was clear right away, even just from the way he talked (as well as Tali, they'd clearly done some growing up...Kaiden's seemed lower, too...like he was still struggling with depression...but yeah, Garrus thread) that he had experienced much in those two years. Compared to the sequel, he's a boy scout. I prefer to play Paragon, so I was a little miffed that Shep's words didn't resonate with him as much. Still, I understood his motives and I enjoyed the change. That's what really makes an interesting character--they change over time. If they don't, they're static.
So overall I'd say I liked ME2 Garrus more, but the original Garrus helped me appreciate him.
Did I want to romance him in ME1? Hmm...how many of you would say you liked him from the very start? Anyone out there "converted", like me? I was skeptical at first, truthfully...I knew ahead that Garrus was popular. I thought, "How can a cat-bird dragon thing be so popular with girls?" But somewhere along the line I changed my mind. Hard to pinpoint...I'd say it's when you try to spare Dr. Saleon and such, and at the end he says, "I've never met anyone like you." I just found that to be very sweet.
I probably would have romanced him in ME 1 if I had the chance...but it feels right the way it is.
I agree. I wish it made more of a difference in ME2 depending on if you paragoned or renegaded him. I hope in ME3 they have something really big happen with him depending on which route you took. It would be really interesting to see what happened if you paragoned him in one and renegaded him in two or vice versa.
I would like him so much more if he had alot more dialogue in ME3. I already like him ALOT though.
I played ME2 immediately after also (I got into the series late) . I agree that the romance is better that it was in the second game rather then the first. It feels better because it's based on trust and friendship, and there wouldn't be much of that if you could romance him in the first game. I can't wait to see his character develop even more in ME3.
LessThanKate wrote...
Of course it's great that he's there...but frankly I find it a little insulted he was beaten by Midna! Zelda's a fine franchise, but Garrus, unlike the characters from that series, has...well...a personality. From what I call, Midna just teleported me and giggled a lot. But yeah, glad he's on there.
I looked back a good couple pages, so I hope this hasn't been shown before. I apologize if this is old news:
www.youtube.com/user/lasvegas
When the commercial aired, I wasn't really paying attention...I heard Garrus's voice say "My turn!" and my ears perked XD
I played a few Zelda games including Twilight Princess(I never finished any of them though) and I have to agree Midna or any Zelda characters for that matter don't even have voice acting or any kinda character development like Garrus. Didn't he also get beaten by Call of Duty characters too? And some other characters that also don't really have character development unlike characters in BioWare games. He should be much higher up.
I wouldn't have noticed that without you mentioning it. I think it's because how his voice is that makes it harder too notice for me. Here's some more commercials:
Geico
"the magic fridge"
Modifié par Evelinessa, 26 octobre 2010 - 04:48 .
#14007
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 05:05
Evelinessa wrote...
I would like him so much more if he had alot more dialogue in ME3. I already like him ALOT though.
I played ME2 immediately after also (I got into the series late) . I agree that the romance is better that it was in the second game rather then the first. It feels better because it's based on trust and friendship, and there wouldn't be much of that if you could romance him in the first game. I can't wait to see his character develop even more in ME3.
Yes, we are in dire need of more dialogue from him...Garrus must be an extremely rare case; being more interesting despite having less to say. I do often wonder if Bioware did that on purpose...like, because of what happened on Omega, he's more reclusive?
I wouldn't have noticed that without you mentioning it. I think it's because how his voice is that makes it harder too notice for me. Here's some more commercials:
Geico
"the magic fridge"
Heh, never saw that Geico one before, thank you. Brandon Keener and the audible chocolate that is his voice seriously deserves more work.
#14008
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 05:51
LessThanKate wrote...
Yes, we are in dire need of more dialogue from him...Garrus must be an extremely rare case; being more interesting despite having less to say. I do often wonder if Bioware did that on purpose...like, because of what happened on Omega, he's more reclusive?
Hmm, maybe. But there was so much he could have said. He could have talked more about what he did before starting his team and more about some of the things he did with his team. And more personal stuff too and more about turians. I hope we get to do something about his mother. Like go to Palavan and try to cure her. His conversations were short too. I understand giving Garrus and Tali less conversations since they were in ME1 but I think Tali had more and he was rediculous he had only three conversations if you didn't romance him.
He has alot of great lines when taking him to missions though.
What I want for him in ME3 is:
-He has to be a squadmate!
-I want his character to grow more with more dialogue.
-I want to have drastic changes depending if you renegade or paragon him.
-I want him to have more romance conversations and scenes. I don't want it to seem like a fling like it first started(I thought it was that until I saw the final romance scene).
-I want some kind of happy ending just some closure and it would be great if he becomes a spectre or something depending on how you aligned him. I want something great even if you don't romance him. But especially if you romance him.
That's all I want really. Garrus is the one squadmate that will make me hesitate to buy the game if he is reduced to a cameo.
LessThanKate wrote...
Heh, never saw that Geico one before, thank you. Brandon Keener and the audible chocolate that is his voice seriously deserves more work.
You're welcome. I think he sounds more like Garrus in the Geico one. He is in some shows I think. I don't know how popular of an actor he is though. In all those commercials people leave comments about Garrus. It's funny. It's also funny some things that cleverbot says when I talk about Garrus. I got the idea from the General Discussion forum.
#14009
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 06:25
Evelinessa wrote...
Hmm, maybe. But there was so much he could have said. He could have talked more about what he did before starting his team and more about some of the things he did with his team. And more personal stuff too and more about turians. I hope we get to do something about his mother. Like go to Palavan and try to cure her. His conversations were short too. I understand giving Garrus and Tali less conversations since they were in ME1 but I think Tali had more and he was rediculous he had only three conversations if you didn't romance him.
He has alot of great lines when taking him to missions though.
What I want for him in ME3 is:
-He has to be a squadmate!
-I want his character to grow more with more dialogue.
-I want to have drastic changes depending if you renegade or paragon him.
-I want him to have more romance conversations and scenes. I don't want it to seem like a fling like it first started(I thought it was that until I saw the final romance scene).
-I want some kind of happy ending just some closure and it would be great if he becomes a spectre or something depending on how you aligned him. I want something great even if you don't romance him. But especially if you romance him.
That's all I want really. Garrus is the one squadmate that will make me hesitate to buy the game if he is reduced to a cameo.
He does have a couple amusing...on-the-field lines, that helps. One thing about these games is you can always go back, bring different people and discover some interesting nuggets of dialogue. And that's another thing, he can be pretty funny when he wants to in the sequel. He was largely humorless in the first game. When I'm at odds with a character, them showing a humorous side usually wins me over.
I don't know what will happen in ME3...I'm expecting a few new faces, but it sure would be nice if Garrus remained a primary character.
And yeah, on the top of my wishlist is romantic closure. Really, closure in general. I know it's a subplot and I know this is not a dating sim, but it's already there, and it would be nice if it held a little more significance. I found it very irritating that Tali was the only character (or one of few) that had something to say after the love scene. If none of them did that, I'd let it go, but I got the sense that the writers cared a little more about her romance.
...Nothing against Tali or her romance of course (even though I think she'd be cuter with Kal, heheh...), I just don't like it when the game itself feels like it's playing favorites.
Still, I'm sure that, in the case where you romance Garrus and he lives, it's not going to be just "Well that was fun now let's never speak of it again lol" in ME3. We'll get something...I just hope it'll be enough.
You're welcome. I think he sounds more like Garrus in the Geico one. He is in some shows I think. I don't know how popular of an actor he is though. In all those commercials people leave comments about Garrus. It's funny. It's also funny some things that cleverbot says when I talk about Garrus. I got the idea from the General Discussion forum.
That could pose a problem. From what I've seen, he's had a lot of small parts and commercial stints over the years. First five minutes of "He's Just Not That Into You", a Buffy episode...pretty sure he was in another game. If it's on YouTube, you can bet it'll be flooded with "It's Garrus!" type comments. I'm not sure you can really get type casted for voicing an alien in a game series...maybe he embraces his following. I mean, considering he's not a huge star, it's impressive he was able to get so many fans, right?
#14010
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 06:52
LessThanKate wrote...
I don't know what will happen in ME3...I'm expecting a few new faces, but it sure would be nice if Garrus remained a primary character.
And yeah, on the top of my wishlist is romantic closure. Really, closure in general. I know it's a subplot and I know this is not a dating sim, but it's already there, and it would be nice if it held a little more significance. I found it very irritating that Tali was the only character (or one of few) that had something to say after the love scene. If none of them did that, I'd let it go, but I got the sense that the writers cared a little more about her romance.
...Nothing against Tali or her romance of course (even though I think she'd be cuter with Kal, heheh...), I just don't like it when the game itself feels like it's playing favorites.
Still, I'm sure that, in the case where you romance Garrus and he lives, it's not going to be just "Well that was fun now let's never speak of it again lol" in ME3. We'll get something...I just hope it'll be enough.
I'm pretty sure the LIs will return in ME3, if not as squaddies, as major NPCs a la Joker or TIM. BioWare talked about concluding the ME1 romances in ME3--I highly doubt they'll screw over the people who romanced ME2 squaddies instead. I'm honestly not worried about that. For starters, the romance interests tend to include "leading" NPCs who are somewhat more plot involved--Ash, Kaidan, Miranda, Jacob, and Liara. As for the other LIs of Garrus, Tali, Jack, and Thane, they've turned out to be generally quite well liked too.
Personally, I preferred Garrus's post-mission line to some of the romance ones. I wasn't really feeling the sappy when I went to chat with Garrus--I was more feeling the "Hell yeah, we're f-ing badasses!"
I've also learned not to doubt the ME team. I was convinced we weren't going to get a Garrus-mance, and my poor FemShep would have to content herself with fanfiction again. I had this whole argument in my head and everything--it's a niche romance, it's for a female protagonist, the NPC can die at the end, all this other stuff. And WHAM! Reach and flexibility. At least as far as Garrus is concerned, the devs have my trust.
#14011
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 07:27
...Well, those 487 pages left aren't going to read themselves. I should go.
Modifié par AlphaDormante, 26 octobre 2010 - 07:28 .
#14012
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 07:33
LessThanKate wrote...
He does have a couple amusing...on-the-field lines, that helps. One thing about these games is you can always go back, bring different people and discover some interesting nuggets of dialogue. And that's another thing, he can be pretty funny when he wants to in the sequel. He was largely humorless in the first game. When I'm at odds with a character, them showing a humorous side usually wins me over.
I don't know what will happen in ME3...I'm expecting a few new faces, but it sure would be nice if Garrus remained a primary character.
And yeah, on the top of my wishlist is romantic closure. Really, closure in general. I know it's a subplot and I know this is not a dating sim, but it's already there, and it would be nice if it held a little more significance. I found it very irritating that Tali was the only character (or one of few) that had something to say after the love scene. If none of them did that, I'd let it go, but I got the sense that the writers cared a little more about her romance.
...Nothing against Tali or her romance of course (even though I think she'd be cuter with Kal, heheh...), I just don't like it when the game itself feels like it's playing favorites.
Still, I'm sure that, in the case where you romance Garrus and he lives, it's not going to be just "Well that was fun now let's never speak of it again lol" in ME3. We'll get something...I just hope it'll be enough.
When I first started romancing him I was so worried it would be a friends with benefits thing since they kept saying it was about "blowing off steam", Then I felt better at the romance scene where they seemed like they cared about each other. And other people here reasured me about it. I hope in ME3 they say "I love you" to each other or something.
I agree. I haven't made a maleshep yet so I don't know much about the romance but I don't think they shouldn't pick favorites either. Just because Tali is the most popular character doesn't mean she should get special treatment (but hey, if BioWare never listened to who was popular in the first place we wouldn't have gotten Garrus in ME2 or a Garrus romance). Plus they had Tali like Shepard since the first game where Garrus just now considers it(actually I might like it better that way though). Then there is the dialogue after the romance. Really? Would it have been that hard to come up with one line of dialogue for each LI? I have nothing against Tali but her overwhelming popularity causes me to dislike her in a way. I tend to be really resistent to things that are super popular until I get to know them better. Hell, I was a little bit resistant to Mass Effect before I got to try it( only a tini bit though).
I don't know if Garrus was the worst romance content-wise(not because it was bad just the amount of content) because I haven't seen the others. I really want the romance to be treated like it's really important. I want him to have just as much dialogue as anyone else and for the romance to be more in depth.
LessThanKate wrote...
That could pose a problem. From what I've seen, he's had a lot of small parts and commercial stints over the years. First five minutes of "He's Just Not That Into You", a Buffy episode...pretty sure he was in another game. If it's on YouTube, you can bet it'll be flooded with "It's Garrus!" type comments. I'm not sure you can really get type casted for voicing an alien in a game series...maybe he embraces his following. I mean, considering he's not a huge star, it's impressive he was able to get so many fans, right?
Yeah, and Mass Effect is a really popular game with Garrus being a really popular character. He does a great job with Garrus though. If Garrus had bad voice acting then it would be really hard getting into his character. Plus Garrus has such a sexy voice.
#14013
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 07:37
AlphaDormante wrote...
Hello, Garrus Thread! Newcomer here, and I've been lurking around this thread for a while now. I've yet to read through the whole thing, but I just wanted to jump the gun for a moment and let you know that you guys are my heroes for all the great discussions I've seen on the road here
...Well, those 487 pages left aren't going to read themselves. I should go.
Welcome!
Thank you. It's great to have another Garrus fan
I'll look forward to having discussions with you.
#14014
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 07:45
#14015
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 09:05
Now that I see your sig banner "just like old times, Shepard" I have to wonder that if you don't recruit Garrus in ME1 if he still says that line at the Reaper IFF. Has anyone tried this out?
Modifié par Evelinessa, 26 octobre 2010 - 09:06 .
#14016
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 11:06
#14017
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 11:29
lovgreno wrote...
The very idea of not requiting Garrus is not possible for a Garrus fan like me so I have no idea.
I definitely won't be able to do it. I don't even know what his reaction is if you refuse to recruit him. I may try to find a video...but that might make me sad.
#14018
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 11:33
#14019
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 12:07
On the scant dialogue tip, I wonder if BW isn't pacing him a bit? It seems like despite all the interactions we have with individual turians in the game, we haven't been submerged into turian culture the way we have krogan, quarian and asari culture. I agree that we need to go to Palavan, even if it's just to go to Palavan (and, if ME3 is about ally gathering as opposed to team building, it seems totally reasonable). I'm neutral on meeting his family, because that can backfire or come off badly if it's not handled just right, but I do want to see some female turians, dammit.
As for his involvement in ME3, I'm holding myself to no expectations. Seeing how love interests in DA have been handled in expansions and DLC, I doubt that they would hesitate to minimize one LI and allow others to carry on if that's how they wanted the story to go.
I just hope that they don't turn any of the romances into one offs. From the conversation you can have with Liara at the end of LotSB, I got the impression that the FemShep/Garrus relationship is far more than **** buddies, and it would suck if that was undone.
To wrap up this random post, I played his loyalty mission last night and I forgot how fantastic some of the body language is during the cutscenes. Garrus and Shep actually feel like a team rather than Shep and Companion of the Moment. Well, like a team until Shep Paragons him before he can shoot Harkin, but even that frustrated moment is well done, as is the conversation on the way to meet Sidonis. I always feel kind of bad for whoever the second companion is chilling in the back seat during that. Zaeed appeared to be distinctly unsympathetic. I half-expected an "at least she hasn't punched you yet."
Modifié par SurelyForth, 26 octobre 2010 - 12:07 .
#14020
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 12:35
XD, i agree about feeling sorry for whoever's in the back seat for Garrus' LM, it seems too sensitive and uncomfortable to really include a 3rd person as it's really about the interaction between Shepard and whichever team mate he/she is with at the time. though having the extra fire power is handy, i wonder if it'd be interesting to be able to strike up conversations at any point with squadmembers to get their opinion on the situation, not just have discussions on the ship, similar to DA:O format. then again its a little late for that, not that i'm against the dialogue wheel.
okay thats my two cents for now, its 11:30 pm on my end so i'm off for some sleep before i end out in a headache again like i was this morning. errrheheh
#14021
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 01:40
SurelyForth wrote...
Heh. I tried to not recruit him this time around (just to see what he would say) and he goes immediately passionate about Saren, so I ended up not being able to do it.
On the scant dialogue tip, I wonder if BW isn't pacing him a bit? It seems like despite all the interactions we have with individual turians in the game, we haven't been submerged into turian culture the way we have krogan, quarian and asari culture. I agree that we need to go to Palavan, even if it's just to go to Palavan (and, if ME3 is about ally gathering as opposed to team building, it seems totally reasonable). I'm neutral on meeting his family, because that can backfire or come off badly if it's not handled just right, but I do want to see some female turians, dammit.
As for his involvement in ME3, I'm holding myself to no expectations. Seeing how love interests in DA have been handled in expansions and DLC, I doubt that they would hesitate to minimize one LI and allow others to carry on if that's how they wanted the story to go.
I just hope that they don't turn any of the romances into one offs. From the conversation you can have with Liara at the end of LotSB, I got the impression that the FemShep/Garrus relationship is far more than **** buddies, and it would suck if that was undone.
To wrap up this random post, I played his loyalty mission last night and I forgot how fantastic some of the body language is during the cutscenes. Garrus and Shep actually feel like a team rather than Shep and Companion of the Moment. Well, like a team until Shep Paragons him before he can shoot Harkin, but even that frustrated moment is well done, as is the conversation on the way to meet Sidonis. I always feel kind of bad for whoever the second companion is chilling in the back seat during that. Zaeed appeared to be distinctly unsympathetic. I half-expected an "at least she hasn't punched you yet."
Did you go after him in the med bay or did you just avoid him? Because I seen a video where someone went to the med bay to try not to recruit him(they even said a racist comment) and he still joined. I think the way you go to not recruit him is just going after Wrex without going to the med bay. I read somewhere that he will try to join you before you leave and then you can reject him but I'm not sure about that.
Turians are so interesting I need to learn more about them and meet turian females. I understand not seeing Salarian and Krogan females because they have to stay on their homeworld but there is no excuse for turians. I think Palavan is one of the more popular places people want to visit though so hopefully we'll be able to go there.
I hope they treat all LIs equally. I will lose alot of respect for Bioware if they cameo most of your team and they don't do much with the romances. Especially Garrus.
You have to think of it this way too though. Dragon Age isn't as much about continuing characters like Mass Effect. ME is a trilogy about Commander Shepard while Dragon Age is more of multiple games about the universe. I still think they should have done more with it though. So I still agree and I haven't played Awakening yet or most of the DLC but I heard most people were disappointed.
Yes, that LotSB conversation made me hopeful. Hopefully they follow through. Story and characters and romances are important to me in these kind of games and I've never played any RPGs that are great in all this like Bioware. I have some hope.
Yes, I also like that part after you either decide to save/kill Sidonis he confronts you and you check if he's alright by touching his shoulder(at least I think that's how it goes..I can't remember.).
This next part is a little long.
How did you guys feel when you first found out you could romance Garrus?
Well for me I didn't know too many spoilers(but that changed later on since I basically learned all the spoilers) but I knew he was going to be a team member I was pretty sure he was Archangel but still not definite. I kept getting antsy to find him and then one person I think Garm said he was a turian and I got super excited. Then he was revealed and I was really scared when he got hit with the gunship I thought I did something wrong even though I used the renegade interupt. But then I talked to kelly and I forgot what she said exactly but it was something along the lines of "I just want to hold him close and whisper everythings going to be alright". Then I had the option of saying "I want that too" and she said "You two would make a great couple" and I thought.....Wait.. WHAT??? Then I later searched online and confirmed I could romance him and then since I was already overtired from playing the game without sleep I had a harder time going to sleep because I was excited for the romance....yup I'm a total nerd fangirl.
Usually when I'm addicted to a game I have a hard time sleeping. But to be fair this only happened to me when playing ME1, ME2 and DA. So that is why Bioware is now my favorite developer.
Modifié par Evelinessa, 26 octobre 2010 - 01:44 .
#14022
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 02:17
I didn't play ME until very recently and since I'm all over these boards, I knew that Garrus would be romanceable eventually. Still, I couldn't see the appeal in screenshots so I imagined that I'd probably end up being a Kaidan fangirl.
Imagine how surprised I was when I found myself thinking Kaidan was dull out of the gates and Garrus was vastly more interesting. As a matter of fact, I think I was frustrated with the lack of Garrus romance before Shepard was made a Spectre. Fortunately, as someone whose preferred DA LI isn't even a canon LI, just knowing it would happen eventually was enough.
And I think knowing gave me a lot to roleplay in ME. It felt very much like the friendship developed in ME was laying the groundwork for more, without it feeling too predetermined. My Shep ended up with Liara in ME and I was thinking I might stay faithful, but her attitude on Illium (and all the conversations around Illium about Asari and their mates) coupled with the fact that Garrus had always been my FemShep's true partner made turning to him seem very natural.
Modifié par SurelyForth, 26 octobre 2010 - 02:17 .
#14023
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 06:18
#14024
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 06:19
Usually with explosives it seems.General Ashous wrote...
Kaidan is deffinetly dull compared to Garrus. Garrus just lights up any room he's in and is the life and soul of the party.
#14025
Posté 26 octobre 2010 - 07:09
In ME1 Garrus was together with Kaidan always with me on missions and even in the following playthroughs I always changed the other squadmate, never Garrus. It always feeled and still feels good to have him next to my Shepard, it is like "whatever is going to happen - Garrus is with me".
I first romanced Kaidan in ME1 (well, it is hard to avoid) and I looked forward to see his cameo in ME2. My first FemShep stayed loyal to him but I must admit that I got totally focused on garrus (and Joker) soon. In the following playthroughs I always romanced Garrus, I could just not do it. Currently I am trying to stay single with my newest FemShep in hope of a Joker romance in ME3, but it will be really hard not to romance Garrus.
I like how Garrus character developed from ME1 to ME2. In ME1 he was more stiff, but in ME2 his character became more, well - versatile - with both tragic and funny moments and aspects, but all of it appears to be so natural. Oh ok, I just realise that it is hard to explain everything that is so fascinating about him, just because there are so many aspects and reasons why he is so fascinating... but of course you know yourself





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