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[Skyline_Stanza]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Just_mike wrote...

Garrus needs to have a fist-fight with Shepard. It just came to me. Imagine these two best friends, who've been through hell and back, throwing fists at each other. That would inject some character drama and whatnot. What are they fighting about? Who started it? Will they still be friends when its over? Who knows. Stay tuned. After a few words from our sponsors.

Shepard did suggest sparring, but I guess for most people, she meant something else...
I think it would be kinda cool! Wrex did wonder who would win in a fight with Garrus and Shepard. I'm sure they'll be friends after though, but they may have to have a tiebreaker...

 That'd be a neat little addition to the Garrus/Shepard relationship, not including the romance. One could possibley come up with all sort of neat reasons why these two would be fighting. (Practice, sparrings, an actual fight between these two over some major disagreement?)

[Homebound]

Skyline_Stanza wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Just_mike wrote...

Garrus needs to have a fist-fight with Shepard. It just came to me. Imagine these two best friends, who've been through hell and back, throwing fists at each other. That would inject some character drama and whatnot. What are they fighting about? Who started it? Will they still be friends when its over? Who knows. Stay tuned. After a few words from our sponsors.

Shepard did suggest sparring, but I guess for most people, she meant something else...
I think it would be kinda cool! Wrex did wonder who would win in a fight with Garrus and Shepard. I'm sure they'll be friends after though, but they may have to have a tiebreaker...

 That'd be a neat little addition to the Garrus/Shepard relationship, not including the romance. One could possibley come up with all sort of neat reasons why these two would be fighting. (Practice, sparrings, an actual fight between these two over some major disagreement?)

lol I think Shepard would only punch the bad side of Vakarians face.

[Sialater]

Actually, I have a fight scene written between Meghan Shepard and Garrus for Loved. I just have to get through Illium first.

[Evelinessa]

kglaser wrote...

Evelinessa wrote...

CalJones wrote...

He does. He's also one of the more aesthetically pleasing turians in the game. (Don't tell me it's just me that notices the differences?)

I agree. I like his voice and his looks. I notice the differences too.

He's interesting.  The gestures, quirky dialogue, and character modeling, as well as the voice, make him stand out in a great way.

I thought it was funny how after Shep says "I should let you go" he says how he wonders if "humans consider conversation a form of imprisonment".

Also, I noticed something while playing ME1 today. Depending on what armor you use for Garrus you can see him without his visor. The armors that I know of(there's probably more) are Pheonix and Colussus armor. If you put the helmet toggle on then he has one of those hoods that turians on Omega wear. They don't put his visor and the hood on at the same time so you can see what he looks like without it..

Oh, does it bother anyone how much Garrus calls Shepard "commander" rather then just "Shepard" in ME1? It doesn't bother me in a bad way I just like when he calls be Shepard more because it makes me feel more like were equals. I don't think he ever called you commander in ME2 though. Which is good because it shows that we're closer.

[AlphaDormante]

Evelinessa wrote...

Oh, does it bother anyone how much Garrus calls Shepard "commander" rather then just "Shepard" in ME1? It doesn't bother me in a bad way I just like when he calls be Shepard more because it makes me feel more like were equals. I don't think he ever called you commander in ME2 though. Which is good because it shows that we're closer.

I like that he says "Commander" in ME1 and "Shepard" in ME2. It shows the progression from teacher-student to equals/close friends/lovers.

And I do believe he calls Shepard "Commander" at least once (that I can think of) in ME2: when you're doing Thane's loyalty mission and talking to Bailey, and you choose the option where he starts talking about a VI programmed to talk like Shepard or something. Its error message is along the lines of telling the user to do it themselves because it's off saving the galaxy, to which Garrus responds "That's pretty extreme, Commander."

That's assuming I'm remembering that all correctly And I don't mind it, because he was mostly teasing Shepard and s/he banters back with "Laugh it up, Garrus". Besides, I can understand that he might want to stick to calling Shepard by his/her superior officer title while they're out doing missions or at somewhere like C-Sec.

Modifié par AlphaDormante, 08 novembre 2010 - 07:22 .

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Just_mike wrote...

Skyline_Stanza wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Just_mike wrote...

Garrus needs to have a fist-fight with Shepard. It just came to me. Imagine these two best friends, who've been through hell and back, throwing fists at each other. That would inject some character drama and whatnot. What are they fighting about? Who started it? Will they still be friends when its over? Who knows. Stay tuned. After a few words from our sponsors.

Shepard did suggest sparring, but I guess for most people, she meant something else...
I think it would be kinda cool! Wrex did wonder who would win in a fight with Garrus and Shepard. I'm sure they'll be friends after though, but they may have to have a tiebreaker...

 That'd be a neat little addition to the Garrus/Shepard relationship, not including the romance. One could possibley come up with all sort of neat reasons why these two would be fighting. (Practice, sparrings, an actual fight between these two over some major disagreement?)

lol I think Shepard would only punch the bad side of Vakarians face.

Renegade Shepard! Ouch... It's ok though, Garrus is tough. A rocket to the face and he's up and out of the med-bay making jokes before you know it.
It's prob just a coincidence, but I know a Mike who is a Mass Effect fan. We had a good old geek out on the bus one time about Legion. You aint the same guy are you?

[Mr Heatsink]

I never really noticed Garrus go from Commander to Shepard.  I guess that shows how close they have become.  As for the music issue that was discussed. I believe that the romance music in ME2 is more of the romance type and the romance music in ME is more engaging. Like kissing or making love that type of thing.  Also if anyone knows how naming works in the ME universe if they would be able to deduce the members of garrus' squad based on species. We know there was a batarian and a salarian and from looking at the names, I'm sure there was also a krogan. Also another question. IF Garrus' squad was still alive how do you think they would react to Shepard and would garrus' leave his team to help Shep. Oh and if any admins or such are watching, I know this is a little late but congrats on winning the golden joystick.

[Sialater]

For those of you following along at home, Meghan, Alexis & Ella Shepard finally recruited Garrus.  Chapter 10 of Persephone Rising is up.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Read up on some of your posts about your fanfic sialater, and it sounds really good! I think it would be nice to get to know some of his crew a bit more, then we can empathise with him more. We know that he had every name etched onto his visor, so he certainly cared for them a lot, And Sidonis' betrayal hurt him real deep. But we know that he had a really deep connection to his squad, similar to Shepard's crew, so it would be nice to get to know Garrus' team!

[Sialater]

Thanks, Tasha. I hope you get to read it. I'm probably going to have Garrus tell Meghan about his team after she finally spills about Akuze.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Evelinessa wrote...
Oh, does it bother anyone how much Garrus calls Shepard "commander" rather then just "Shepard" in ME1? It doesn't bother me in a bad way I just like when he calls be Shepard more because it makes me feel more like were equals. I don't think he ever called you commander in ME2 though. Which is good because it shows that we're closer.

I really liked that about Garrus in ME1.  Garrus almost always refers to Shepard as "Commander" in ME1, and I think he's the only one of the non-Alliance crew who consistently does so.  Wrex mostly calls you "Shepard," and I think Tali and Liara are about 50-50, though I could be wrong.  I took it as a sign of respect from Garrus in ME1.  And I do think Garrus and Shep are less on equal footing in ME1 than they are in ME2.  Shepard's attitude toward it varies from player to player, but Garrus seems to see ME1 as a learning experience from Shep, and in his mind, Shep is definitely his superior.

In ME2, he does call you "Commander" on a few occasions, but generally speaking, I think just about all of your crew go with "Shepard," except for the few Cerberus members.  I did like that touch--it feels like their relationship has gotten closer and more equitable, especially given Garrus's potential roles in the suicide mission.

[Evelinessa]

AlphaDormante wrote...

I like that he says "Commander" in ME1 and "Shepard" in ME2. It shows the progression from teacher-student to equals/close friends/lovers.

And I do believe he calls Shepard "Commander" at least once (that I can think of) in ME2: when you're doing Thane's loyalty mission and talking to Bailey, and you choose the option where he starts talking about a VI programmed to talk like Shepard or something. Its error message is along the lines of telling the user to do it themselves because it's off saving the galaxy, to which Garrus responds "That's pretty extreme, Commander."

That's assuming I'm remembering that all correctly And I don't mind it, because he was mostly teasing Shepard and s/he banters back with "Laugh it up, Garrus". Besides, I can understand that he might want to stick to calling Shepard by his/her superior officer title while they're out doing missions or at somewhere like C-Sec.

Ah, yes I remember that part. I thought that part was cute .

Yeah, I like the progression of the relationship. I definitely wouldn't have liked it if he called me "Commander" during the romance scene.

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

I really liked that about Garrus in ME1.  Garrus almost always refers to Shepard as "Commander" in ME1, and I think he's the only one of the non-Alliance crew who consistently does so.  Wrex mostly calls you "Shepard," and I think Tali and Liara are about 50-50, though I could be wrong.  I took it as a sign of respect from Garrus in ME1.  And I do think Garrus and Shep are less on equal footing in ME1 than they are in ME2.  Shepard's attitude toward it varies from player to player, but Garrus seems to see ME1 as a learning experience from Shep, and in his mind, Shep is definitely his superior.

In ME2, he does call you "Commander" on a few occasions, but generally speaking, I think just about all of your crew go with "Shepard," except for the few Cerberus members.  I did like that touch--it feels like their relationship has gotten closer and more equitable, especially given Garrus's potential roles in the suicide mission.

Yes I see what you mean how he was being respectful. Yes he did see it as a learning experience.

That's the part I'm happiest about. That our relationship is closer in ME2. I hope it continues to grow in ME3.


And I guess this still has to do with Garrus but does anyone have trouble in ME1 and 2 with Garrus dying alot? He keeps dying for me alot in both games, but more in ME1. He is always the first one to die . I usually let the AI handle my squads powers though so I don't know if that makes a difference. I don't know if this is ok to talk about here.

[tommyt_1994]

Hey guys just dropping in to show my support for Garrus. he's one of my favorite characters but I hate how little dialog Bioware gave him for my male Shepard. He has like 3 convos's, one of which is his loyalty mission 'debriefing'. It's really frustrating though I bet you guys discuss this all the time lol. I don't have a real opinion on his romance, I've only seen it once and quite frankly I don't really remember much about it. I'll have to go check it out.

[CalJones]

His lack of dialogue is disappointing. I guess they thought that, as he'd been in ME1, he didn't need as much as the new companions. Wrong!

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

CalJones wrote...

His lack of dialogue is disappointing. I guess they thought that, as he'd been in ME1, he didn't need as much as the new companions. Wrong!

Hell yeah!
And about Garrus dying, with me, he only usually dies if I steal his cover
Only joking, I'd never do that to him. But I always have Thane and Garrus, it's usually me who dies first when husks with armour hack me to pieces while I'm focussing on a scion...
But I would say that Garrus dies a bit more than Thane, usually cuz he wants to get in with the action and jumps on top of a crate, thinking he can take another rocket to the face.
That turian rocks!

[Evelinessa]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

CalJones wrote...

His lack of dialogue is disappointing. I guess they thought that, as he'd been in ME1, he didn't need as much as the new companions. Wrong!

Hell yeah!
And about Garrus dying, with me, he only usually dies if I steal his cover
Only joking, I'd never do that to him. But I always have Thane and Garrus, it's usually me who dies first when husks with armour hack me to pieces while I'm focussing on a scion...
But I would say that Garrus dies a bit more than Thane, usually cuz he wants to get in with the action and jumps on top of a crate, thinking he can take another rocket to the face.
That turian rocks!

Haha yeah, and I have stolen his cover before but that's not why he dies for me. He was better about it in ME2 I think. And yes, he does need more dialogue.

Also, I just finished ME1 for the second time today and I have a couple questions about Garrus.

1) I paragoned him on this playthrough and he said he would go back to C-Sec... but he also said he would reapply for spectre training. So which way is he? Did I paragon him or not?

2) After I stole the Normandy he said "After everything we talked about--isn't this a little extreme Commander?" does he still say that even if you picked renegade choices with him? I don't remember much from my first playthrough and on that one I accidently renegaded him(I didn't know his morality changes and I just picked what he wanted to hear).

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

1) He said the same thing when I renegaded him. It doesn't make a difference in ME2 though.



2) I never had that conversation with him. I just moped by the lockers! So can't help you there.

[SurelyForth]

I've never pure paragoned him, and I have never heard the "After everything we talked about--" line after the Normandy has been stolen.



I also got the "going back to C-Sec and reapplying to the Spectres." Then, in ME2, he just says he went back to C-Sec after the Normandy was destroyed and then left a few months later. He doesn't mention the Spectres.

[Sialater]

Yeah... I've never gotten that line. But then, my Sheps were usually making out with Kaidan by the lockers.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Or nearly making out Same here, but only because a certain turian wasn't available. I say that, but I'm glad he only became a romance option in ME2. Here's a related Garrus joke:

'Garrus was, in fact, a romance option ME1. He just rocked your world so hard you don't remember it.' XD

[PoisonTheCity]

...Did someone mention Garrus ME1 romance?


Edit - erk, strike that. It comes up in super low quality on this site.

Ahem, anyway, hullo, Garrus thread.  You know, the first ever fanfic I read was a Garrus fic. He got me into the world of fanfiction.

Modifié par PoisonTheCity, 09 novembre 2010 - 04:16 .

[Sialater]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Or nearly making out Same here, but only because a certain turian wasn't available. I say that, but I'm glad he only became a romance option in ME2. Here's a related Garrus joke:
'Garrus was, in fact, a romance option ME1. He just rocked your world so hard you don't remember it.' XD

Well, yes, technically, we were 3PO'ed by Joker.... but you're right.  He probably would have been better for Meghan from the beginning.  Now, she gets a mess in ME3.... cause, you know... the Bro Code lies broken at hers & Garrus' feet.

[Stokely]

Greetings, fellow Garrus fans! I've been following this thread since forever (since Love and Adoration v.2, actually) and now I'm declaring my neverending love for Garrus officially. Yay. Oh, and I always wanted to tell that you guys are awesome. Garrus doesn't get nearly enough love back in mother Russia 

I think I'm one of those few who don't get frustrated at his lack of dialogue? I mean of course, the more Garrus the better, but his relationship with Shepard always felt like "understand without words" type to me. And it's not like he has a lot to say, we already know him and it's too early to go deeper into his Omega team topic, I think - they've just died, after all. Plus he has some great lines on the missions.

[Mresa]

Stokely wrote...

Greetings, fellow Garrus fans! I've been following this thread since forever (since Love and Adoration v.2, actually) and now I'm declaring my neverending love for Garrus officially. Yay. Oh, and I always wanted to tell that you guys are awesome. Garrus doesn't get nearly enough love back in mother Russia 

I think I'm one of those few who don't get frustrated at his lack of dialogue? I mean of course, the more Garrus the better, but his relationship with Shepard always felt like "understand without words" type to me. And it's not like he has a lot to say, we already know him and it's too early to go deeper into his Omega team topic, I think - they've just died, after all. Plus he has some great lines on the missions.

/stops lurking

I agree with the part of being okey that Garrus doesn't have much dialogue. The fact that they know each other and don't need so much words to express their feelings, hence the love scene.

[Twilight_Princess]

Stokely wrote...

Greetings, fellow Garrus fans! I've been following this thread since forever (since Love and Adoration v.2, actually) and now I'm declaring my neverending love for Garrus officially. Yay. Oh, and I always wanted to tell that you guys are awesome. Garrus doesn't get nearly enough love back in mother Russia 

I think I'm one of those few who don't get frustrated at his lack of dialogue? I mean of course, the more Garrus the better, but his relationship with Shepard always felt like "understand without words" type to me. And it's not like he has a lot to say, we already know him and it's too early to go deeper into his Omega team topic, I think - they've just died, after all. Plus he has some great lines on the missions.

I'm frustrated because he should have had more conversations than he did, pretty much everyone said they rushed to him after every mission just to be told that he was too busy calibrating . People love chatting to garrus for a reason. I can see that they care for eachother without needing words but I would also like some confirmation just to stop people from telling me it was a one night stand or that it really isn't a "real" romance. That's what bugs me most.