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[mellifera]

Yeah, Garrus is the most "alien" alien you can romance so there are a lot of things that wouldn't work in terms of animation that you could do with all the others. To be honest, I just think they would have made a really awkward scene that I'd have to skip, on top of the inherent awkwardness of them doing it for the first time and trying to figure stuff out. It's not so easy as having sex with a human or more human-looking like Tali or Thane, since assuming their... parts... are relatively the same you can be done in a couple of minutes or less if you like. This... takes some practice. Lol, I feel I am overthinking it now.

Ah well, stupid sexy turian Batman is awesome. They'll make it work. I don't think I'll make her turn to another person just because it's not easy to have sex with him since their relationship is based on a lot more than that anyway. The trust and the friendship and love is worth a lot more than being able to have sex easily. Plus, Commander Shepard is used to challenges, this is nothing xD

Modifié par yukidama, 14 novembre 2010 - 07:44 .

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

In terms of physically, he is the most alien, but he's still gained an amazing reception, beyond what any of the devs thought he would. The obvious physical differences show that it is a true relationship based on trust, totally agree yukidama!

My femshep always loves a guy who is so badass that he practically deflects rockets to the face, can take out three merc gangs, who makes facial scars into a fashion statement, and comes out with the best lines in the game! So yeah, a challenge!

[mellifera]

Heh, exactly. He is the most alien looking but he is also the most ~awesome~ if you ask me. I'll take an amazing alien over a dull human any day.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

aka Jacob?

[mellifera]

Haha, yeah... having sex with him is (physically) easy, but why would you want to? :x

Modifié par yukidama, 14 novembre 2010 - 09:40 .

[Aeowyn]

But the priiize...

Turians in general just look amazing but Garrus in particular makes me swoon. And the voice. Mmmm.

Honestly I liked the fact that the romance wasn't mushy. I liked that both Shepard and Garrus are strong characters but that during the romance scene you see his vulnerability and that alone makes me believe that he cares more for Shepard, and wouldn't want a "one night stand".
The fact that they are both adults helps as well. And the fact that the romance isn't blotched by daddy issues/dead wife/missing son/whatever was a big plus imo too. It's refreshing after all the other BioWare romances. And yes Garrus and his father don't get along, but it doesn't affect the romance at all. In fact, I don't think he even mentions his father in ME2.

Modifié par Aeowyn, 14 novembre 2010 - 09:49 .

[mellifera]

Exactly. What made the relationship attractive to me (besides thinking Garrus is amazing) is that it seems so... normal. It's built on existing friendship and trust and them. It's awkward but it feels more like a union of equals than the others to me.



Anyway, it's sci-fi, why not have sex with aliens? xD

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

The priiize is so not worth it. Jacob - get a personality

Aoewyn, one of my fav things about the relationship is that they are both strong characters, they both have such a strong connection, and Garrus doesn't 'betray' or abandon Shepard because she is working with Cerberus. He still trusts her.

And yukidama has a strong point, sci-fi practically = sex with aliens!

Star wars, star trek, farscape, Mass Effect, KotOR and everything sci-fi...

[Evelinessa]

For more romance scenes I want something like ME1 where it builds up the romance and I think Dragon Age did it too. I just want lots of scenes and dialogue building up to the final scene. It would be nice if other people commented on the romance too.

[Pwnisher]

Here's a toast to Garrus, the most badass Turian anyone could ask for!

[Sable Rhapsody]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

In terms of physically, he is the most alien, but he's still gained an amazing reception, beyond what any of the devs thought he would.

Yeah, I wonder what the devs thought of all the Garrus love.  I know Tali was planned as an LI for ME1 before they thought, "Nah, too alien."  And just look at the reception Tali and Garrus have received.

In Jacob's defense, he's grown on me a lot with every playthrough I do.  Mostly by virtue of Jacob being the least crazy person on my ship, and having unusually rare traits in video games like common sense and emotional stability.  Hell, even the Shadow Broker says he's there because otherwise Normandy's net sanity is just too damn low.

Aeowyn wrote...
And the fact that the romance isn't blotched by daddy issues/dead wife/missing son/whatever was a big plus imo too. It's refreshing after all the other BioWare romances. And yes Garrus and his father don't get along, but it doesn't affect the romance at all. In fact, I don't think he even mentions his father in ME2. 

THIS.  This is, for better or worse, one of the main reasons why Alistair and Garrus are my favorite BioWare romances.  The odd thing is that in Garrus, the issues are present to a certain degree--he seems estranged from his family in general and his mother is dying.  But the important thing is that those issues are not part of the romance.  He doesn't saddle Shep with his personal problems.  The only reason he mentions Saleon or Sidonis is because he wants revenge on them specifically, and Shep is the one setting the Normandy's course.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

@ Sable Rhapsody and that is why Garrus rocks! He is actually sensitive in a quiet way. He listens to Shepard, but doesn't burden her with his own problems, even though he has had a very tough life. He solves his own demons. Garrus is so ace!

[mellifera]

Yeah, I kinda didn't like reading all the stuff in the Shadow Broker dossiers. For a lot of it I felt the crew should have told Shepard, and only if they wanted to. Felt invasive, even though they pretty much know everything about Shepard xD For the Garrus stuff I think she'd have preferred him to tell her, but only when he was ready and probably not when the galaxy is crashing down around them. I do like that Garrus doesn't burden her with all his problems as much as the others, but somtimes it's okay, especially when you're partners.

Modifié par yukidama, 15 novembre 2010 - 06:53 .

[Yunaito]

I believe that Bioware will listen to us.

About listen ...do you hear the voice of garrus in other languages?In Italian looks like a teenager in crisis.Especially in ME1!

How sad.Brandon 4ever.

[Sialater]

I think the only other language VO's that did a good job were the German ones.

[Aeowyn]

Speaking of the Shadow Broker's dossier. What do you all think of the comment: "Will never fully develop under Shepard's command."?

Do you think this is a comment pointing to things to come, or is it just the Shadow Broker's own silly opinion?

[Yunaito]

Oh God,yes!So sexy!XD

[Yunaito]

Hem sorry,my last comment is for Sialater.With my Ipad can't quote

[Kim Shepard]

Evelinessa wrote...

Are you talking about the platinum hits edition? I have that one and the only DLC it comes with is Pinnicle Station but not Bring Down the Sky. It comes with some other things on the bonus disc though. And I love the Saren statue.

Well, you're right about that. ): I heard a few different things from different people, but the back of the box doesn't lie.

From what I've seen, that guy in Kasumi's loyalty mission has good taste in art. The turian stuff was cool, the DA reference statue was a nice touch, and the Saren statue was awesome. If Saren saw it, I bet he'd buy that.

I have a question for you all..

I was reading another thread and a few people brought up something about the Garrus romance. Some people think that maybe Garrus and Shepard didn't actually have sex after the fade to black. What do you think?

I always thought they did. I mean, they researched it and everything. But I like the idea that each player can choose what happened. I like player choice.

As for what the devs think of all this, there was a quote from... Hudson? Unfortunately, I don't remember the quote well enough to post it. The basic idea was that they didn't expect people to want Garrus as a romance option, but if that's what people want, let them have it. I expect that the reaction was something like, "Really? Wow. I didn't see that coming."

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

and that is why Garrus rocks! He is actually sensitive in a quiet way. He listens to Shepard, but doesn't burden her with his own problems, even though he has had a very tough life. He solves his own demons. Garrus is so ace!

Completely agree. I've always liked that type of character. They tend to be more interesting, at least to me.

[Mresa]

Aeowyn wrote...

Speaking of the Shadow Broker's dossier. What do you all think of the comment: "Will never fully develop under Shepard's command."?
Do you think this is a comment pointing to things to come, or is it just the Shadow Broker's own silly opinion?

Well I certainly hope it doesn't mean that Garrus will leave during the ME3 and have a squad of his own to help Shepard. Even though it's sounds cool and Garrus could pull it off... I don't want him to leave.D:

[Kim Shepard]

Aeowyn wrote...

Speaking of the Shadow Broker's dossier. What do you all think of the comment: "Will never fully develop under Shepard's command."?
Do you think this is a comment pointing to things to come, or is it just the Shadow Broker's own silly opinion?

I think it's the opposite, actually. The way I see it, Garrus is more likely to reach his full potential if he stays with Shepard. What could be more important, and more testing of his skills, than saving the galaxy? He would even get the opportunity to lead teams every now and then (because, as the suicide mission shows, even Shepard needs someone else who can handle that responsibility). Garrus might not have been so quick to lead a team again after what happened on Omega if it wasn't for Shepard.

[mellifera]

I don't think Garrus would up and leave to get his own squad at this point. I don't know, it just seems strange for any of the squad to leave at this point as there wasn't really an event that divides them (aside from the possibility of being dead post-suicide run) unless Shepard gets spaced AGAIN at the beginning. In any case, despite what the Shadow Broker thought, it doesn't seem Garrus would leave, IMO. I think he trusts and likes Shepard enough to stay, and his leadership potential doesn't (or shouldn't) necessarily mean he's going to leave if Shepard's goals still coincide with his. They've gotten amazing, impossible things done this way so far, why stop now? In the end I think the squad in general trusts Shepard enough that they wouldn't leave. I think it speaks volumes for any of the alien companions that they stayed because of Shepard even while being affiliated with Cerberus.

Modifié par yukidama, 15 novembre 2010 - 08:41 .

[Sialater]

LotSB spoiler ahead: Turn back now! Read at your own risk!

(I'm trying to get the tect to turn gray, but it's not letting me)



Well... the thing we have wonder is... was it the predecessor's comment or the yahg's comment? The yahg are so brutal, they slaughtered the Council's First Contact ambassadors to their planet (they're now an interdicted world). The previous SB had one shipped, acting like it was a pet. Which killed him.

Frankly, I don't trust the judgment of a member of a species so brutal, they couldn't even handle First Contact. Not even the krogan are that vicious. He's probably disappointed Garrus hasn't killed Shepard yet.

Modifié par Sialater, 15 novembre 2010 - 08:58 .

[SurelyForth]

I agree with you, yukidama. Besides, Garrus might never live up to his leadership potential under Shepard, but who is to say that's what he wants? He doesn't seem to be chafing under Shepard's command (leaving this open for chafing related joke) and s/he really is a master class in leading. It's win/win for him at this point, especially if he was chosen as Fire Team leader. Staying with Shepard, he gets to do what he's good at (tactical stuff, kicking ass) without having to deal with the responsibility of Big Decisions that might require more emotional finesse than he's capable of.



And if, for whatever reason, he decides to break with the team (which I honestly doubt he would do unless Shepard points him in that direction with a "This will help against the Reapers, I swear!"), he's got that much more experience under his belt.



Now, for a change of pace, file this under Little Things That Make Me LOL:

[mellifera]

Exactly. The only real way I see him being a leader at this point is while still working with Shepard and deferring to her judgement. He can still use his leadership skills and remain with Shepard, just as he has. It's been working for them so far, and he can still implement his skills under Shepard's command. I guess the Shadow Broker wasn't thinking they should work together, even if they get things done and would prefer to do so anyway because he percieved it as a waste of potential. But the Shadow Broker's perception is worth squat in this case, because it's not up to him anyway. The ones involved choose to do things their own way xD