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[lovgreno]

It's kind of interesting that the only two real friends Shep has left in ME2 are aliens: Garrus and Tali. And maybe Wrex too.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

lovgreno wrote...

It's kind of interesting that the only two real friends Shep has left in ME2 are aliens: Garrus and Tali. And maybe Wrex too.

That's a real good point, I never picked up on that before. They have always stuck with Shep, no matter what Shepard did or  who Shep joined (looking at you Kaidan and Ashley!!)

[Alienmorph]

The reasons are quite obvious, for Garrus Shepard is a mentor figure... so at least he trust him enough to help him at the beginning, but we know what happens if we do the wrong choices during the game. Tali... for MaleShep the reasons are even more obvious, and for FemShep I guess that she considers the Captain a sort of mathernal figure, considering that she used to associates military leaders with her family. 

Modifié par Alienmorph, 20 novembre 2010 - 08:56 .

[Sialater]

I put it in the FemShep thread, but I figured it would work well here, too.



This is what happens when someone tries to get between Meghan and her turian:

[Sable Rhapsody]

Sialater wrote...

I put it in the FemShep thread, but I figured it would work well here, too.

This is what happens when someone tries to get between Meghan and her turian:

I play Paragade, so I have no compunctions about taking the mickey out on someone, but I have a friend or two who stick to almost pure Paragon--except that Renegade interrupt.   Oh Garrus.  His well-being compels us to electrocute starship mechanics 

[Sialater]

Yeah, even my Paragon Kaidan girl used it. Garrus is worth it.

[lovgreno]

Oh that poor Kathka. He didn't seem that bad and didn't deserve to die horribly just because he worked for Shepards enemy. But since he was a potential threat to Garrus his fate was sealed.

[Timerider42]

I've never not killed Kathka.


Must save Garrus at all costs.

[Collider]

That's a badass screenshot.

[Sialater]

I'll tell Shenzi you said that, Collider. She's been kind enough to take screenies for me since I have the game on the 360 only.

[danitiwa]

Although I love Garrus I could never electrocute that mechanic, he seemed so innocent. :I I'd feel really ****y if I did.

[Sialater]

He's a Blue Sun, a batarian and trying to kill Garrus.



Nope, not innocent.

[danitiwa]

He just seemed more laid back than the rest of the blue suns. :I
That might sound silly. But the gunship gets repaired no matter what you do so I didn't see much point in it.  It didn't seem right to just sneak up on a guy like that. If I'm going to kill someone I don't do it from the front.

I'm so paragon my crap is blue~~

[Kim Shepard]

The screenshot is awesome. So is the lesson behind it. "Don't mess with Garrus."

I don't think I have any Shepards who wouldn't take the interrupt. I mean, they're killing a guy who's trying to kill their friend/comrade, and the guy happens to be a merc that probably killed a lot of other people too.  (Also, MainShep would like the fact that being batarian is now a perfectly good reason. xD Even Garrus knows she hates them, or at least I can pretend he does after the "a batarian, if you can believe it" line about his team.)

[Mresa]

danitiwa wrote...

He just seemed more laid back than the rest of the blue suns. :I
That might sound silly. But the gunship gets repaired no matter what you do so I didn't see much point in it.  It didn't seem right to just sneak up on a guy like that. If I'm going to kill someone I don't do it from the front.

I'm so paragon my crap is blue~~

You're not the only one. I've never been able to do single renegade interrupt nor say anything renegade, it's just feels so, well mean.

But still Sialater, you'r FemShep looks really badass.

[Alienmorph]

I just wished that killing or not the Batarian would had been determinant to avoid or not to get Garrus scarred. Anyway, I usually kill him, I avoided it just when I made a full Paragon playtrought to use as base for ME3.

[Kim Shepard]

Even though I knew what was going to happen long before I played through Garrus' recruitment, I still thought I had messed up somehow when the gunship shot him. I understand the story reasons for why Garrus gets scarred no matter what... but it does seem like the choice to use that interrupt or not has little effect aside from an awesome scene. Does it at least make the gunship easier to destroy in battle?

[Alienmorph]

Yes, it has just the armor but not the shields. Or just 1/2 of the armor... a thing like that. Also there's a quick extra dialogue.

" Though I took care of that gunship"
"They repaired it, but not completely, I made sure of that."

Or something similar, I have the game translated in my own language off course, so I'm not sure how it sounds in the original version.

Modifié par Alienmorph, 21 novembre 2010 - 10:38 .

[Kim Shepard]

At least there's that. Garrus' recruitment was a hard mission for me, so making it easier is a good thing. The short dialogue was a nice touch. It sounds familiar, but I was probably too distracted by the battle to pay attention.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Alienmorph wrote...

Yes, it has just the armor but not the shields. Or just 1/2 of the armor... a thing like that. Also there's a quick extra dialogue.

Yes, it drops the gunship to 1/2 armor.  Which on the higher difficulties is an ass-saver of epic proportions.  You can't afford a long battle with it on Insanity due to all the Blue Suns that spawn and make your life a hell.  So mechanical as well as RP reasons to electrocute Kathka.

My FemShep doesn't think of things in terms of innocence and guilt--she thinks in terms of cost and benefit.  Those freelancers were probably just idiots who signed up for credits, but she didn't care.  Same with Kathka--he could have been a loving father or whatever, but she was willing to murder him to cripple that gunship.  For a Paragade, she's pretty damn cold.

[Alienmorph]

That's the nature of the Paragade path... you can be and hero, a crazy vigilante or just a soldier who does what it's needed. If you choose the half way it's natural to calculate the benefits of your actions instead of theyr moral implications.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

I always considered the paragade path as te equivalent of 'chaotic neutral' alignment in Baldurs Gate. They are unpredictable, have good intentions, but are completely merciless and will bend around the laws to do what needs to be done. That screenshot is ace, and I love her armour! I think Garrus is a paragade too (or chaotic neutral.) I always took that interrupt, especially when on insanity. (And when I was on insanity, I just had to leave one of my squaddies behind to look after Garrus. That is some love!)

[IndelibleJester]

Chaotic neutral is pretty close to the only "insane" alignment in D&D. I wouldn't say they have good intentions, since they are neutral. You're describing chaotic good. Haer'Dalis is a good example of chaotic neutral (and I think that IS his alignment), he isn't good or evil, and he doesn't ever make any real sense to most people, especially visible during his banters with people where he seems to confuse them, generally speaking. Just putting that out there.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

IndelibleJester wrote...

Chaotic neutral is pretty close to the only "insane" alignment in D&D. I wouldn't say they have good intentions, since they are neutral. You're describing chaotic good. Haer'Dalis is a good example of chaotic neutral (and I think that IS his alignment), he isn't good or evil, and he doesn't ever make any real sense to most people, especially visible during his banters with people where he seems to confuse them, generally speaking. Just putting that out there.

And I am pretty insane! Haer'Dalis is my favourite tiefling (perhaps influenced by the fact that he is the only tiefling, hmm.) But I do still see Garrus as chaotic neutral, he is attracted to the idea of being a spectre - no rules - and he doesn't see the need to stick to the law to see justice achieved. That's the chaotic part. But I perceive him as neutral because of his sexy seething revenge for anyone who crosses him. He is a very vengeful guy and won't hesitate to kill his enemies (usually.) I think he is too much of your avenging archangel type to be considered as chaotic good. Just my thoughts

[General Ashous]

Indeed, he does like the idea of there being nothing to stop him doing his job properly but he isn't evil but doesn't play the hero either. He enjoys carnage yet doesn't cause it. He just sits in the middle.

Modifié par General Ashous, 21 novembre 2010 - 05:38 .