29107 réponses à ce sujet

[kglaser]

Collider wrote...

They probably take into account both the vocal fans or reviewers and the stats gathered from the general body of players. I think Garrus will be safe.

I sure as heck hope so.  I mean, I know they take opinions heavily into account, but then again, sometimes dubious decisions are made in game developments...

[Tyrium]

Yeah, but if the "complete fanbase" statistic show Garrus is one of the most popular, and the "dedicated" (read Clan V) fans are as vocal as we are, that has be a good sign, right?

[Kim Shepard]

Hey, kglaser is back! Nice avatar. I think I've seen that Garrus/FemShep art before...

LessThanKate wrote...

Ah, it probably is best kept vague, then. My Eathborn is a Paragon, so my ideas on her possible past were totally different. In her case, she knew the Reds were getting worse, from petty to severe crimes, so she got as far away as possible from it. To relate it to Garrus, I would say...she kept him from killing Saleon and Sidonis because she feared for him, maybe even a little for herself, for loosing control. Maybe she would think it a slippery slope; it took so much time for each of them to get to where they were, but it would be so easy to destroy it, to turn into something fearful and reckless.

...Although I also happen to have a Colonist/Ruthless Shepard who's...pretty big on revenge, so he would have the opposite affect on him.

All of my Earthborns have different background stories too. Some just wanted more out of their lives (and technically, that's what my Ruthless wanted too). In the background I made up for my current MaleShep, he and a few others split from the Reds when they disagreed with some of their tactics, and when he had a chance to join the Alliance, his friend told him not to pass up the opportunity and go make a name for himself in space. So they're not all as "hardcore" criminal as my favorite one. But all of my Shepards, no matter the background, agree wholeheartedly with Garrus going after Saleon and Sidonis to kill them. They would have done the same thing.

@Sable Rhapsody: Yeah, I noticed that about the husks in a few Insanity videos. Doesn't make much sense to give them armor. xD But my next playthrough of ME1 will be on Normal. I tried it out for a while mid-playthrough and the thing that surprised me most was that there was no more automatic health regeneration. So I'll see how it works out, and then switch back to Casual for the Saren battle because I really don't want to get frustrated with my favorite.

[Kim Shepard]

Tyrium wrote...

Yeah, but if the "complete fanbase" statistic show Garrus is one of the most popular, and the "dedicated" (read Clan V) fans are as vocal as we are, that has be a good sign, right?

Yeah, I think it's a good sign. They know he's popular with players overall, and they get more specific opinions about his character from us dedicated fans. And I know they read these things. Garrus was only a romance option in ME2 because they found out that so many people wanted it. That's something they wouldn't have known just by looking at gameplay stats.

[Reptilian Rob]

TheNexus wrote...

I maintain that the story of the before mission fight where Garrus fights the lady is the single best story yet told in Mass Effect.

Haha, seconded!

[Reptilian Rob]

kglaser wrote...

Collider wrote...

They probably take into account both the vocal fans or reviewers and the stats gathered from the general body of players. I think Garrus will be safe.

I sure as heck hope so.  I mean, I know they take opinions heavily into account, but then again, sometimes dubious decisions are made in game developments...

Don't.........Don't say that KG...

[Kim Shepard]

I still believe that whatever BioWare chooses for Garrus in ME3 will be awesome. I want him back as a squadmate, but if he and Shepard have to go on separate missions for a while with him leading the second team (like in the suicide mission), I'd be fine with that. In my opinion at least, BioWare hasn't given us any reason to doubt them.

I just remember that when I worry about things like the DLC I don't have being required for ME3. xD

[Collider]

All the signs point to Garrus being popular among the fanbase. Even among casual players who don't go on forums or even talk about Mass Effect. People are drawn to Garrus. If Garrus didn't return in ME3 then I'd pretty much worry about the rest of the game, because something would be going wrong with the direction they'd be taking it.

[Reptilian Rob]

Collider wrote...

All the signs point to Garrus being popular among the fanbase. Even among casual players who don't go on forums or even talk about Mass Effect. People are drawn to Garrus. If Garrus didn't return in ME3 then I'd pretty much worry about the rest of the game, because something would be going wrong with the direction they'd be taking it.

Ah, your wisdom is calming.

[Kim Shepard]

Also, Garrus doesn't have anywhere else to go or anything he needs to do that would be more important than fighting the Reapers. He'll be with Shepard until the end, through hell and back.

[Aeowyn]

Kim Shepard wrote...

Also, Garrus doesn't have anywhere else to go or anything he needs to do that would be more important than fighting the Reapers. He'll be with Shepard until the end, through hell and back.

That's pretty much what I wrote in another thread. I mean, he leaves his C-Sec job to hunt Saren with you in ME1. He might return to C-Sec or get Spectre training but in the end he leaves anyway. Considering how turian society is with their duty and honour and how if a turian doesn't live a certain way you lose your rank in the hierarchy, I would say Garrus is ranked pretty low amongst other turians, so the whole idea that he would not be in the squad so he can gather help from the turian government against the reapers falls flat. Why should they listen to someone who isn't a very good turian?
So he's really sacrificed a lot to help Shepard against the Reapers, and honestly I would be mad if he doesn't stay in the squad until the end.
(honeslty I think BioWare bit the dust with this one when they decided to make a "suicide - mission" where everyone can die! *sigh*)

[Kim Shepard]

Garrus can get whatever help he can from the turians, or help anyone he needs to, from right where he is on the Normandy. The thannix cannons are a good example, and so is him and Mordin helping out with medical research (probably for the disease his mother has). And I agree that it's unlikely he'll have much say in getting the turians to fight the Reapers, considering the fact that they might see him as unreliable. That's not really true, but they could think that way about a guy who's always quitting his jobs and running off "on some crusade." It's not like he has Wrex's level of influence.

I actually liked the suicide mission. It is easier to keep everyone alive than to kill off a lot of them, and most people do have at least one playthrough (if not more) where everyone survives. I don't think BioWare will leave characters out of the game just because they can die. It means that they can't be required for the plot to continue, but they can still be important and play a big part in the game - like the way a team leader is needed in the suicide mission, but that team leader could be either Garrus, Miranda, or Jacob. Garrus' weapon upgrade for the Normandy is also useful, and there are consequences for not having it, but it's not required to finish the game. I imagine all of the killable squadmates will be handled in the same way. Needed to progress the storyline? No. Good to have around for extra squadmate options and bonuses based on their special talents? Yeah.

Modifié par Kim Shepard, 25 novembre 2010 - 09:26 .

[mhads]

This is my first time playing Mass Effect (didnt play ME1).

First time I met Garrus on dossier mission he instantly became my favourite squad member.

Something about him reminds me of a lazor-shooting, spectacle-wearing dinosaur. How can you get more badass than that?



And his skillset is just so damn good!



Would be mighty dissapointed if he won't be part of the ME3 squad... specially since I repeated 5 hrs worth of gameplay just not to let him die in the last mission

[Reptilian Rob]

Kim Shepard wrote...

Also, Garrus doesn't have anywhere else to go or anything he needs to do that would be more important than fighting the Reapers. He'll be with Shepard until the end, through hell and back.

He's such a cutie too, he can't leave me!

[Kim Shepard]

You should play ME1. It's awesome. Garrus was my favorite squadmate the minute I recruited him too.

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Kim Shepard wrote...

Also, Garrus doesn't have anywhere else to go or anything he needs to do that would be more important than fighting the Reapers. He'll be with Shepard until the end, through hell and back.

He's such a cutie too, he can't leave me!

If that was actually a reason for characters to stay alive and with Shepard against all odds, my MainShep would still have Saren in-game, and not just in the incredibly long, complicated story I've planned out for them.

[Alienmorph]

Meh, I don't think Garrus is going to go anywere. He's officially the most polular male character of the saga, and him and Miranda are teh ones of who have the hightest chances to survive the Suicide Mission. I would be madness cutting him out. Anyway, even I'm not worried as much as for Tali of that possibility, I'll continue to show my support for him, just to be sure ^^

Modifié par Alienmorph, 25 novembre 2010 - 10:12 .

[Kim Shepard]

I noticed that too. There aren't as many ways to get Garrus killed as there are for other squadmates. I think he and Tali will both return, and be the two who were there for all three games.

[Alienmorph]

Yes, and also he increases a lot the chances to save other squadmates. He and Miranda are Shepard's second-in-command and I'm sure that things will remain like that... unless BW has some tricky twists in mind.

[Mresa]

I'm quite sure that a lot people will go crazy if they suddenly decide that they'll give him a small role like to Ashley and Kaidan in ME2.

Besides since he has such a large fanbase, I doubt they would want to disappoint us by doing some stupid.

[Timerider42]

I started playing ME2 when I saw a video showing Garrus in it. I wasn't into Mass Effect before that but I saw him and thought "That is a badass character".

[IndelibleJester]

I am guilty for getting into Mass Effect because of Liara and Tali... heheh...

[Zulu_DFA]

I've got a question: Where do people get that Garrus is younger than Shepard?



By the start of ME1 Garrus had served his term in the navy and become one of C-Sec's top invertigators. Granted, Pallin may have wanted to make the investigation of Saren bog down, but he couldn't just charge a rookie with it! In fact, Garrus talks about "years" of work for C-Sec, when he recalls Dr. Saleon's case.



In human years Garrus must be about the same age as Shepard!



I know, there is that line "I learned from the best", but aside from being just another case of the "Church of Shepard" faith, it is supposed to be a bonding moment, not an acknowledgemnet that Shepard is somekind of "mentor" to Garrus.

[Collider]

Garrus' writer.

[Aeowyn]

I guess it has something to do with the fact that turians enlist in the military at 15. Let's say he leaves when he's 21. That's still 6 years of military service. Then he joins C-Sec where his father is a high ranking C-Sec officer, and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he got it a bit easier based on that. Shepard is 28 in ME1 isn't she?

I don't know. I don't find it far-fetched that he would be the same age as Shepard. Curious about where the "Garrus is younger than Shepard" thing comes from as well tbh.

[jellobell]

Kim Shepard wrote...

I noticed that too. There aren't as many ways to get Garrus killed as there are for other squadmates. I think he and Tali will both return, and be the two who were there for all three games.

I haven't looked at the actual guide for how to save squadmates, but on my first playthrough I put Garrus in charge for both the 2nd task force and the fire team and everyone ended up making it.
Just goes to show how great a leader he is in his own right, when he's not being overshadowed by the god that is Shepard.