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[Collider]

From fans, it comes from Shepard essentially being Garrus' "mentor" in ME1 - which would suggest to some people that Garrus is younger. In addition, the presentation of Garrus is that he is frustrated with red tape. He wants to skip past the regulations and go get the bad guys.



From his writer, his writer stated that Garrus was a "young brash officer" and that Garrus was "definitely under 30."

[Aeowyn]

Did his writer say that after ME1 or 2? After ME1 Shepard is under 30 as well.

[Collider]

This was before ME2 was released. It's possible that it may be ME1 or it may be ME2. If the writer meant under 30 in ME1, then Garrus is at most ~31 years.



However, I'd doubt 31 considering the use of "definitely" and that the writer didn't specify his exact age. 29 doesn't sound "definitely" under 30 years if one isn't sure of how old their character is.



I think part of Garrus' character arc is him being inspired by Shepard in ME1 whether directly or just looking up to Shepard - and then coming off on his own. We can already see this by his successes on Omega. In ME2, he's already past the "apprentice" stage. Garrus & Shepard are equals as far as I'm concerned.

[Kim Shepard]

Yeah, that quote from the writer is the reason why. I don't think he's in his young 20's though. He's probably only a few years younger than Shepard.

I normally don't consider my Shepards a mentor to Garrus either. I guess people get that impression if they play the Paragon route, where Shepard does seem to be teaching Garrus, but all my group of vengeful Shepards have done is agree with him. "I learned from the best" sounds more like it's coming from a friend or comrade, in my opinion at least. Besides, the thought of my ex gang member Shepard being a true "mentor" to an ex-cop is hilarious.

[Alienmorph]

I guess that Shep and Garrus have more or less the same age. Garrus says many times about his services in the Turian army (The "I had reach and she had flexibility" thing in an example) or his career in the Citadel so looks like he's in action from many years. Simply he cannot be too younger than Shepard and did all that things.

[Mresa]

I've always imagined that Garrus would be something like 26 or 27 during ME1. That would be "definitely under 30" and to me it makes sense.

[Kim Shepard]

Technically, Garrus could be three years younger than Shepard and have spent as much time in the turian military and C-Sec as Shepard has spent in the Alliance. Shepard joined at 18, but turians join at 15. That means if Garrus is only one or two years younger, he would have served longer than Shepard. Just a thought.

[PiEman]

On Normal, most things are still unprotected by armor, barriers or shields.  On Hardcore, just about everything is protected.  On Insanity, everything is protected (EVEN THE F-ING HUSKS HAVE ARMOR), highly aggressive, scaled to your level, and out to sodomize adorable puppies after killing Shepard and the squad for spending a few seconds out of cover.

I died laughing. 

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

I always considered Garrus as being a few years younger than Shepard, his whole personality and relationship to Shepard in ME1 shows that. But I heard somewhere that turians have to serve in the military for 15 years or something? So maybe Garrus didn't do his full time in the military, and joined C-sec part way through, or this rumour is just wrong.

[IndelibleJester]

Thought everyone might like this:

 batchix.deviantart.com/art/Garrus-for-Nina-187312626

Modifié par IndelibleJester, 25 novembre 2010 - 09:54 .

[Tyrium]

The way I understood it, turians go to boot camp on their 15th birthday, and must serve the military until 30. I guess C-Sec counts if he is definitely under 30 in the first. I'd peg around 28 in ME1 - say he left the military at 24/5, then a few years (3-4) in C-Sec - still relatively new, but enough time to build up a reputation and be assigned Saren.

[Alienmorph]

The kind of considerations I had in mind. So yes, probably his age is very close to Shepard's.

Modifié par Alienmorph, 25 novembre 2010 - 10:01 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

PiEman wrote...

On Normal, most things are still unprotected by armor, barriers or shields.  On Hardcore, just about everything is protected.  On Insanity, everything is protected (EVEN THE F-ING HUSKS HAVE ARMOR), highly aggressive, scaled to your level, and out to sodomize adorable puppies after killing Shepard and the squad for spending a few seconds out of cover.

I died laughing. 

I speak the truth :innocent:

IndelibleJester wrote...

Thought everyone might like this:

 batchix.deviantart.com/art/Garrus-for-Nina-187312626

  DO.  WANT.  NAO.

OK, more intelligent comments on Garrus's age now that I've somewhat recovered from the sexy.  I always got the impression that he's a couple of years younger (maybe 3-4 years) not due to his service time or record, but rather his personality and attitude in contrast to Shep's.  Regardless of whether Shep is Paragon or Renegade, s/he doesn't really exhibit the kind of idealistic hot-headedness that Garrus exhibits.  The analogy I've heard for Paragon vs. Renegade Shep is Picard vs. Jack Bauer, and both of those approaches feel older and more mature than Garrus's approach.  Renegade Shep may be just as vengeful and punchy, but Renegade Shep is also more jaded and callous, even in ME2.  Paragon Shep may be just as compassionate as Garrus, but is also more thoughtful and measured.  

Of course, Shep is usually the mentor/alpha dog on the ship.  The only characters I ever felt could serve as anything approaching mentors to Shep were Anderson, Mordin, Samara, and Wrex.  

[Reptilian Rob]

Collider wrote...

From fans, it comes from Shepard essentially being Garrus' "mentor" in ME1 - which would suggest to some people that Garrus is younger. In addition, the presentation of Garrus is that he is frustrated with red tape. He wants to skip past the regulations and go get the bad guys.

From his writer, his writer stated that Garrus was a "young brash officer" and that Garrus was "definitely under 30."

I picture him to be around 24-25ish.

[Alexine]

I think Garrus's a bit younger than Shepard, but I got the impression from his experience that he wasn't too young. I mean, he was pretty high ranked to have managed to be assigned investigator for Saren's case, although it could be argued that it he was placed in that investigation to fail to obtain evidence for Saren's case. But even then, he would have needed to spend more than a few solid years to be able to gain those sniper and military skills (even if he was mighty talented, as it was indicated he was chosen out of many recruits to do Spectre training). And from a few comments, Garrus started at the very bottom of C-Sec, usually doing lots of paperwork and maintain peace in the Presidium. And thinking about it realistically, i took that C-Sec promotions are very hard to come by, so I think Garrus would be around 26-27 by ME1 and around 28-29 by ME2, maybe older.

[Reptilian Rob]

Alexine wrote...

I think Garrus's a bit younger than Shepard, but I got the impression from his experience that he wasn't too young. I mean, he was pretty high ranked to have managed to be assigned investigator for Saren's case, although it could be argued that it he was placed in that investigation to fail to obtain evidence for Saren's case. But even then, he would have needed to spend more than a few solid years to be able to gain those sniper and military skills (even if he was mighty talented, as it was indicated he was chosen out of many recruits to do Spectre training). And from a few comments, Garrus started at the very bottom of C-Sec, usually doing lots of paperwork and maintain peace in the Presidium. And thinking about it realistically, i took that C-Sec promotions are very hard to come by, so I think Garrus would be around 26-27 by ME1 and around 28-29 by ME2, maybe older.

That's actually more realistic than what I said, so I'm going with 27-28.

[kglaser]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Collider wrote...

From fans, it comes from Shepard essentially being Garrus' "mentor" in ME1 - which would suggest to some people that Garrus is younger. In addition, the presentation of Garrus is that he is frustrated with red tape. He wants to skip past the regulations and go get the bad guys.

From his writer, his writer stated that Garrus was a "young brash officer" and that Garrus was "definitely under 30."

I picture him to be around 24-25ish.

For some reason I always thought he was 28 in the first game.

[Kim Shepard]

I guessed 26 in the first game, and 28 in the second. Younger than Shepard and older than Tali.

Something I found about turian ages and military service on the Wiki:

Boot camp begins on the 15th birthday. Soldiers receive a year of training before being assigned to a field unit; officers train for even longer. Most serve until the age of 30, at which they become part of the Reserves.

Some birthday, huh? xD So boot camp seems to last about a year. Saren's page said he was promoted to active service after only a year of training, so maybe he was going to be an officer. "Most sere until the age of 30" could mean that some choose to be in C-Sec, Spectres, etc. instead of the normal military. Saren wasn't in the military that long before he became a Spectre at 20, so Garrus could have been in C-Sec for at least a few years if he did something similar to Saren. From the stories he tells, Garrus definitely had the skill for it. At some point in there, Garrus was considered for Spectre training too - probably in his young 20's (Saren was the youngest, so I doubt they were trying to recruit them even younger than him). This was after he joined C-Sec, right?

We don't have many turians to judge these things by. The Wiki does say that Nihlus joined the military at 16 (his mother made him join after his father died), but he was born outside of Hierarchy space, so they might have different rules there.

Modifié par Kim Shepard, 26 novembre 2010 - 05:29 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

Kim Shepard wrote...

Younger than Shepard and older than Tali. 

Yeah, I pretty much agree.  It shows in his attitude too.  He's not quite as badass or mature as Shep (but to be fair, few are), yet he still seems a lot more experienced than Tali, who's honestly pretty green in ME1.  Though they and Liara all take levels in badass between ME1 and ME2, and it makes me feel so warm and fuzzy when I see them all grown up 

Also, Happy Thanksgiving!  We are thankful for BioWare and their awesome games--and awesome maliens 

[Kim Shepard]

Yeah, most people are nowhere near Shepard's level. Saren was the closest one to it, but he's quite a bit older than Shepard. (15 years? I remember his age, but not Shepard's. She was 29 in ME1, right?)

I didn't think of it as Garrus "growing up", but I agree about him taking a level in badass. What the team did in ME1 was more than most could ever accomplish, and he went through a lot between ME1 and ME2. Being hotheaded and idealistic aren't necessarily signs of being younger though - it could just be personality. Garrus still has those traits after the experience on Omega aged him in ME2. Some of my own Shepards have that in common with him, although they probably wouldn't take it as far as he would. 

And Happy Thanksgiving. There's lots of BioWare stuff to be thankful for... like all of my favorite games, Saren, Garrus, turians in general, Revelation (and Saren), Garrus and Saren mini lithos. Yeah, I know Saren was listed three times.

[PoisonTheCity]

Two things I'm hoping for in ME3: Two turian squad members (Garrus being one of them, obviously) because, for some reason I can't pinpoint, I'm interested in seeing how Garrus interacts with other turians. I think it was after reading the LotSB convo he had with his sister... but I think it would be interesting. Especially if the other turian was more of a 'by the books' kind of turian.

Secondly, I'd die a wonderful death by fangirl squee if we could go with Garrus to Palaven to see his mum. I'd be very interested in the turian family dynamic between brother and sister, mother and son, etc. (Though I'm doubtful this would happen, it would require female turians ) It's something I've wanted to explore in fic, but I'm uneasy about making up a turian family dynamic that isn't too obviously influenced by human culture.

Does anyone know if Solana is older or younger than Garrus? Any theories? It's hard to tell from one chat transcript. Sometimes, when I read through it, she sounds like a younger sister who's a little resentful that her older sibling isn't helping out, but sometimes she sounds like an older sister who is doing her duty but could just use a hand.

[TheNexus]

I'd really like to talk about Garrus but...



*looks to the right*



can it wait for a bit? I'm in the middle of some calibrations.

[Kim Shepard]

A second turian squadmate would be great. I'd like to see a female turian vanguard. And Garrus' situation with his family could make for a nice personal mission in ME3. As for his sister, I can't tell if she's younger or older. If I really had to guess, I'd say younger, but only by a few years. Everyone and their families are different, so it's really hard to say.

[Sialater]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Kim Shepard wrote...

Younger than Shepard and older than Tali. 

Yeah, I pretty much agree.  It shows in his attitude too.  He's not quite as badass or mature as Shep (but to be fair, few are), yet he still seems a lot more experienced than Tali, who's honestly pretty green in ME1.  Though they and Liara all take levels in badass between ME1 and ME2, and it makes me feel so warm and fuzzy when I see them all grown up 

Also, Happy Thanksgiving!  We are thankful for BioWare and their awesome games--and awesome maliens 

This is too true and made me laugh out loud.

[Giggles_Manically]

Garrus does assume maximum badassitude though.



Rockets, Explosions, Sniper Fire, Gunships, and Mercs all going off at once and in the middle of it is Garrus.

As much as I love his entrance in ME1 his entrance in ME2 literally had me cheering,