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[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Garrus does assume maximum badassitude though.

Rockets, Explosions, Sniper Fire, Gunships, and Mercs all going off at once and in the middle of it is Garrus.
As much as I love his entrance in ME1 his entrance in ME2 literally had me cheering,

When I first played Mass effect 2 and I recruited archangel, and then found out it was no other than Garrus Vakarian, you would have not liked to have been within ear-hearing of me. His recruitment mission is pretty amazing. And his entrance in ME1 was pretty cool too, I loved it when you walked into the med-clinic and there he was sneaking up on the thugs, and then after the fight it was like 'Thanks for the help Shepard, good timing.' Very law and order kinda thing. I loved it!

[Mresa]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Garrus does assume maximum badassitude though.

Rockets, Explosions, Sniper Fire, Gunships, and Mercs all going off at once and in the middle of it is Garrus.
As much as I love his entrance in ME1 his entrance in ME2 literally had me cheering,

When I first played Mass effect 2 and I recruited archangel, and then found out it was no other than Garrus Vakarian, you would have not liked to have been within ear-hearing of me. His recruitment mission is pretty amazing. And his entrance in ME1 was pretty cool too, I loved it when you walked into the med-clinic and there he was sneaking up on the thugs, and then after the fight it was like 'Thanks for the help Shepard, good timing.' Very law and order kinda thing. I loved it!

I actually bounced on my sofa during his recruitment mission in ME2 and was  err... quite, loud. I won't deny that.

[Kim Shepard]

Garrus does know how to make a great entrance. In ME1, it made me think he was a cool character, and my Shepard got along well with him. "Nice shot."

I knew about him being Archangel long before the game was released, so my reaction to that was just thinking he's awesome. I didn't know about all of the dialogue though, so there were a few nice surprises like Shepard looking like she wanted to hug him and taking that Renegade interrupt with his sniper rifle. I almost laughed out loud at the "you shot me" lines and the Renegade interrupt with that guy fixing the gunship. That interrupt was definitely a jaw-drop moment.

"Shepard!  ...  I'm going to like this new system."

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

And that reaction is why I committed myself to not look at any spoilers! Imagine my reaction when I discovered Garrus was romanceable when I had a thing for him in ME1! Kaidan is a nice guy, and he has a lot more of a personality than Jacob, but I was thinking of Garrus the whole time

[Mresa]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

And that reaction is why I committed myself to not look at any spoilers! Imagine my reaction when I discovered Garrus was romanceable when I had a thing for him in ME1! Kaidan is a nice guy, and he has a lot more of a personality than Jacob, but I was thinking of Garrus the whole time

You're not the only one who was thinking like that. That's why I only have 1 FemShep for Kaidan. The rest are for the lovely maliens of ME2...

[Kim Shepard]

During my first playthrough of ME1 (a few months before ME2 came out), I didn't know about the forums, but I did find the ME Wiki at some point. Most of the time, I read spoilers for everything - books, movies, games - with few exceptions. I don't like bad surprises. It was great watching Sovereign's speech on Virmire unspoiled, but if I hadn't known about Saren's suicide... that would have quickly gone from a powerful moment for his character to "No no no! What happened?! I messed up the persuades?" Playing that scene over and over again expecting a different result would have just been sad. Same with Garrus getting shot by the gunship if I didn't know he was going to live. I probably would have missed the romance too.

So when the ME3 spoilers start coming, I'll be reading every last one of them.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

You mean Garrus and Thane
I definately preferred the aliens in Mass Effect 2, I think they were the better characters and more diverse in general. They all had completely different cultures, morals, philosophies and codes to humans, which, to an adventurous person like me, just made them more appealing.
Go aliens!

[Kim Shepard]

I liked the ME2 squad much better than the ME1 squad. I mostly used Garrus and Wrex in ME1, and Wrex is off doing something awesome so I don't mind him not being recruitable. I didn't have much opinion on Tali in ME1, but now she's my favorite female character. And there were great new ones like Thane and Grunt. I didn't miss the ME1 squadmates who weren't there (to be honest, I was glad some of them didn't return). Of course, I was just glad Garrus came back.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Yeah, bioware made me really happy with the triumphant return of Garrus and Tali! Good choice! Tali would totally be my best mate in the Mass effect world. Wrex was brilliant, and I think he does overshadow Grunt a bit. I don't really miss Kaidan/Ashley, especially after Virmire.
Also, just thought I would let you all know that I went saw this poll recently, and Garrus was voted for being the best character! Even more so than Tali!
And... out of about 650 votes, Jacob only got one. Lol, bless him www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.226983-Poll-Which-Mass-Effect-2-character-is-a-must-have-in-ME3

[Mresa]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Yeah, bioware made me really happy with the triumphant return of Garrus and Tali! Good choice! Tali would totally be my best mate in the Mass effect world. Wrex was brilliant, and I think he does overshadow Grunt a bit. I don't really miss Kaidan/Ashley, especially after Virmire.
Also, just thought I would let you all know that I went saw this poll recently, and Garrus was voted for being the best character! Even more so than Tali!
And... out of about 650 votes, Jacob only got one. Lol, bless him www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.226983-Poll-Which-Mass-Effect-2-character-is-a-must-have-in-ME3

LOL I really don't know if I should feel sorry for him or not. That poll made my day.

[lovgreno]

The three awesome aliens Garrus, Tali and Wrex of ME1 was awesome and if they are in ME3 that will probably guarantee that me and many of their other fans buys the game. I hope this is a strong economical incentive for BioWare to include them, especialy Garrus of course, in the game.

[lovgreno]

Poor Jacob, despite that horrible romance dialouge he realy is a good character so he does deserve some more love. But of course he will always be outcooled and outawesomed by Garrus.

[Kim Shepard]

Wow, Garrus and Tali beat everyone else by a lot. xD I should have expected that... but the huge difference in numbers is still a little surprising.

Poor Jacob. I think it's mostly FemShep's lines that are at fault there, but people's opinions because of that can't be helped. A lot of my Liara hate is because of a trap romance that wasn't really her fault, but probably just some glitch in the game. Before that, I just disliked her. I'm really glad that Garrus' romance doesn't have any traps like that, and it doesn't feel forced like with FemShep and Jacob. It's possible to avoid the subject of romance completely, so we don't even have to turn him down with Shepards who make other romance choices.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Yeah, femshep involuntarily rape talking Jacob doesn't earn him many votes. He's a nice guy, but that's it. Amidst all the extreme and deep personalities of all the other squaddies, he does become a bit dull in comparison. The thing with Garrus is that both guys and gals love him, whereas for Tali, it would be all the guys who voted for her.

So Garrus WINS!!

[lovgreno]

The fact that Jacob is a normal and nice guy is part of his charm to me actualy. He is reliable but not necesarily boring.

It does feel like only Garrus and Wrex are equaly popular among both guys and girls.



But in any case Garrus always WINS!

[Kim Shepard]

Garrus is a great friend character. Great to bring along just for the combat too, if people don't care much for character development or storyline. And for those who want it, an adorable romance option. He's completely loyal, and always trusts Shepard, which is why all of my Shepards with their different personalities are able to like him. I'm sure he can win over the action movie fans (myself included) with his ME2 intro as well. So I can see why both guys and girls like him.

[Alienmorph]

Kim Shepard wrote...

Wow, Garrus and Tali beat everyone else by a lot. xD I should have expected that... but the huge difference in numbers is still a little surprising.

At this point, they're both the most rapresentative character of the ME franchise, after Shepard himself. The difference of popularity between them and the others is hudge, but not unexpected. I thinked that chars like Thane and Mirandda might have more fans, but there aren't any doubts about the winners of these competitions. We have to face it... we're in the winning team

Off course, it's not sayd to be unrespecteful to the fan of the others. I'm not one of those nerdy haters who spits on anyone who dislike his favourite charater. I like mostly the whole ME characters cast, and still I respect the hard work done to make even the ones I dislike.

Speeching about the Archangel thing... I've heard that Garrus came would have been come back in ME2 before bought the game, but I din't know he was Archangel. Off course in the moment was saiyd "he's a Turian" I did 2+2... but that didn't make his entrance less awesome. 

Modifié par Alienmorph, 26 novembre 2010 - 10:34 .

[Kim Shepard]

It would be nice to see Garrus and Tali on the cover of ME3 with Shepard as the two squadmates who were there through the whole series (and I do expect that they'll both be squadmates again).

I agree that all of the characters are very well made. There are always characters that I don't like because they say things I don't agree with or their personality isn't the type I find interesting, but all of them are believable. If it weren't for the variety, creating several different Shepards would be hard to do, and that's the whole reason I bought ME1.

[Aeowyn]

I only started playing ME2 about a month ago so I knew that Garrus would be back, but I didn't know that he was Archangel. Garrus was my favourite character in ME1 and I really wanted to romance him then. So I basically spent the first half of the game going "Where's Garrus? :(". Did Purgatory first (thought it would be easy. Pick up a prisoner and go...yeah right). Then Mordin, and then Archangel. When I spoke to Garm and he said that he was a turian squeed so loud my landlord was wondering if I had hurt myself lol

And my deal with Jacob is that when I tried to get to know him he just brushed me off with the "already, I'm not blabla something with these talks." So I just thought "fine, suit yourself."

Modifié par Aeowyn, 26 novembre 2010 - 10:47 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

lovgreno wrote...

The fact that Jacob is a normal and nice guy is part of his charm to me actualy. He is reliable but not necesarily boring.
It does feel like only Garrus and Wrex are equaly popular among both guys and girls.

But in any case Garrus always WINS!

I agree.  Jacob has steadily grown on me as I've played ME2, also because I carefully worked out the few dialogue options that avoid FemShep's really awful flirting, and they can talk like normal human beings.  Jacob is stable, issues-free, and by far the sanest member of your crew.  Even the Shadow Broker says so.

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

You mean Garrus and Thane  
I definately preferred the aliens in Mass Effect 2, I think they were the better characters and more diverse in general. They all had completely different cultures, morals, philosophies and codes to humans, which, to an adventurous person like me, just made them more appealing.
Go aliens! 

My friend and I, who are both huge Star Wars fans, were talking about this earlier.  We found it funny that we find Garrus, a very ALIEN Mass Effect 2 alien, far more appealing than most of the Star Wars aliens (Twi'lek, Rattataki, Miraluka, etc.), who are generally much more humanoid and a lot less different from normal human physiology.  I rarely thought of the Star Wars aliens as attractive.  I think of Garrus as HAWT DIGGITY DAMN.

Anyone else have that experience?  Did Mass Effect make you a xenophile? 

[Kim Shepard]

I normally don't play games for too long all at once, but I managed to recruit Garrus when I bought ME2 on day one. Of course, I knew where to get him and had a strategy guide for the mission walkthrough... xD If I hadn't known, I probably would have ended up recruiting Archangel first, planning on getting Mordin like TIM said but re-thinking that when Aria said Archangel didn't have much time.

Edit: I thought turians were awesome the first time I saw one, which was Nihlus. They're definitely the best designed alien race I've ever seen. But I think a lot of aliens look cool. Since you mentioned Star Wars specifically, I thought Darth Maul looked awesome (even though his appearance is a bit more demonic than alien). I've seen movies where I thought the aliens were adorable.

And the fact that you managed to find the non-flirty dialogue between FemShep and Jacob is amazing. I just gave up.

Modifié par Kim Shepard, 26 novembre 2010 - 11:09 .

[Xalena]

I am wondering these days... why Love theme from ME2 sounds so sad. When I heard/watched it first time ( when Me2 came, I spoiled to myself Garrus romance scene > because I was so out of myself when I heard that he is is romancable! and some people got game earlier and put videos on youtube and ofc I could not ressist arggghhh!) I was like :crying:. Song is so sad! Like someone died! Damn that song bothers me! xD
I would love that they put some romantic jazzy music with Garrus in Me3. I am big fan of Blade Runner love theme I wish something similar like that because this from Me2 one makes me abit depressive, and like it is just about the sad story of Garrus suffering and not too much about two people (actually aliens to each other ) "connecting" and falling in love  They maybe should put few "upstair" positive and lovely sounding tones of "hope" when Garrus touches her arm in the end. Anyone feels the same maybe? Do I make any sense at all? xD  Don't get feeling that same music fits to others romantic scenes aswell. Especially Miranda and Jacob lol .

I hope we get more romatic scenes with Garrus and not over again "...before we throw again ourselves to the Reapers" in ME3.... just like we get in Me1 and Me2. I would like some kind of romantic scene similar to the "locker" and ME1 romances when Normandy is grounded ( when Shepard almost get kissed with Kaidan/Ashely but Joker interrupts them) and ofc more convos with Garrus... that rly frustrates me. I mean that can't be just it :/ come on Bioware, Garrus is favourite to everyone and you give him so little conversations and not too much of continuing bromance .PHEW!

Anyway I am just passing by and giving support to my favourite char now off to bed.
<3

Modifié par Xalena, 26 novembre 2010 - 11:05 .

[Cra5y Pineapple]

Mresa wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Garrus does assume maximum badassitude though.

Rockets, Explosions, Sniper Fire, Gunships, and Mercs all going off at once and in the middle of it is Garrus.
As much as I love his entrance in ME1 his entrance in ME2 literally had me cheering,

When I first played Mass effect 2 and I recruited archangel, and then found out it was no other than Garrus Vakarian, you would have not liked to have been within ear-hearing of me. His recruitment mission is pretty amazing. And his entrance in ME1 was pretty cool too, I loved it when you walked into the med-clinic and there he was sneaking up on the thugs, and then after the fight it was like 'Thanks for the help Shepard, good timing.' Very law and order kinda thing. I loved it!

I actually bounced on my sofa during his recruitment mission in ME2 and was  err... quite, loud. I won't deny that.

Ah, I remember my reaction. I could barely speak lol. He was my favourite yet I never thought they would bring him back considering how much the game ignores him (Ash/Kaidan have the Virmire choice, Wrex can be killed [not that I did], Liara's getting all kinds of dialouge in the crew meetings and mind-melding you, etc.) I thought Bioware would just ignore him and Tali but instead they brought them back and both had gone up a level in badass.

Modifié par Cra5y Pineapple, 26 novembre 2010 - 11:19 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

Kim Shepard wrote...

Edit: I thought turians were awesome the first time I saw one, which was Nihlus. They're definitely the best designed alien race I've ever seen. But I think a lot of aliens look cool. Since you mentioned Star Wars specifically, I thought Darth Maul looked awesome (even though his appearance is a bit more demonic than alien). I've seen movies where I thought the aliens were adorable.

And the fact that you managed to find the non-flirty dialogue between FemShep and Jacob is amazing. I just gave up.

I agree on Maul, but ME may be the first franchise where I've found any of the aliens actually ATTRACTIVE.  I thought Maul looked awesome--I think Zabraks in general look fairly cool, as do Chiss.  But Garrus and Nihlus may be the first male aliens in a sci-fi franchise I've found no-kidding-sexy.

Oh, and for FemShep and Jacob, a good rule of thumb is to pick the neutral dialogue options, and NEVER the paragon ones.  Don't ask about his family, and if you do ask about his past or about his relationship with Miranda, drop the subject when he asks you to.  I think if you go with that, you'll hit a lot less of the romance trap.  There are one or two dialogues where the Renegade option is less flirty than neutral, but I don't remember which ones specifically.  My Shepard ended up sounding more complimentary toward him than I'd like--there are surprisingly few ways to just be mean to the Cerberus crew from the get-go, but I didn't get romance trapped which is a WIN in my book.

@Xalena:  I liked the ME2 romance music.  I actually found the ME1 music more disturbing since the romance theme is the same as the death theme that plays after you Virmire Kaidan or Ash.  Also, I interpreted the romance differently.  I saw the FemShep/Garrus romance as less about making each other super happy within the context of ME2, and more about giving one another some measure of comfort and peace after all the crap that's happened to both of them.  So the melancholy music fit.

And to be fair to Jacob and Miranda, there are some really sweet moments in their romances, even if their final romance scenes border on tasteless.  It's a pity, really.

[Kim Shepard]

@Xalena: I didn't notice the music during the romance scene. Too distracted by Garrus, I guess. But I tend to miss that sort of thing unless I'm really listening for it. In one of the old Garrus threads, there was a discussion about everyone choosing a song for their FemShep and Garrus. I still can't think of one. (My MainShep and Saren have a song, but it's a song that would probably fit for anyone who did the Paragon persuades at the end. I don't listen to a lot of "romance" songs.)

More conversations with Garrus would be nice. Now that the relationship has already been going on for a whole game, it would be kind of funny if they waited until right before the "we could all die" mission again.

@Sable Rhapsody: Over the years, I've probably seen equal amounts of aliens that looked attractive, cute (not talking about romance option cute here, more childlike cute), or "what is that thing?!" xD And thanks for the advice on Jacob. I've read that FemShep can get the same conversations as MaleShep with him, but was too worried about a trap romance in my Garrus playthrough to try.