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[kglaser]

Saren looked like a Replete Shambles from Oblivion. LOL, I freaked out when that happened. XP

[Tyrium]

I'm guessing it has to do with who wants to save the council, the other one shoots. I know that if it is Tali or Liara, Garrus shoots. Not sure about anyone else - I can't remember with Ash, Kaidan's always dead by that point, and I haven't taken Wrex yet.

[AdmiralCheez]

yukidama wrote...

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I know this is backtracking, but I think I came a little.  Oh, Garrus, you are so attractive when you shoot things.

Additionally, as soon as Shep says "make sure he's dead," I was like, "oh great, zombie boss fight."

[Sable Rhapsody]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
I know this is backtracking, but I think I came a little.  Oh, Garrus, you are so attractive when you shoot things.

Additionally, as soon as Shep says "make sure he's dead," I was like, "oh great, zombie boss fight."

Garrus: *BOOM* I love this rifle.
Me:   ILU GARRUS

Unfortunately, his talent for shooting means he's not around in my current ME playthrough as much.  I'm trying to get better with the sniper rifle for when ManShep gets ported to ME2, and Garrus keeps kill stealing, the sexy turian bastard.

[Aeowyn]

I always bring Garrus with me on my infiltrator. Sniper competitions ftw!



Edited for Garrus stare.

Modifié par Aeowyn, 21 décembre 2010 - 09:09 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

Aeowyn wrote...

I always bring Garrus with me on my infiltrator. Sniper competitions ftw!



Edited for Garrus stare.

I'll bring him everywhere in ME2, I can handle the sniping in that game just fine, even with my Adept who lacks cloak and sniper slowdown.  But the sniping in ME1 is pretty meh when assassination's on cooldown--not a fan of the wobble.  So Garrus gets sidelined until I can get good enough to not feel utterly inadequate all the time 

Or maybe I should just give in and play my ME1 Adept again--no--bad Sable.  Going to play ManShep.  Awesome jerkass ManShep.

[Evelinessa]

Ok so I'm currently working on a renegon ME1 playthrough and I have a question for Garrus' loyalty mission in ME2. In ME1 I want to kill Dr. Saleon without trying to arrest him but in ME2 I want to save Sidonis(with possibly using a pargon interrupt for Harkin). I want to hear his confused dialogue and see what happens in ME3. I read on the ME Wiki that in order to spare Sidonis you have to have a high enough paragon score for the option to appear. I watched it on youtube to double check and I noticed the line to convince Garrus isn't in blue so does anyone know if I need a high enough paragon score or not? Because I doubt I will have enough paragon since I will be focusing on renegade.

Also I have an off topic question. For the character I'm doing now I plan for him to have a full renegade bar and I might save the council in the end. When you import the game into ME2 I notice that it says if you followed the renegade or paragon path and your council decision among other things. If I save the council will it automatically say I followed a paragon path or is the council thing seperate and it says I followed whatever I had more points in? I want it to say I followed a renegade path but I might save the council.

[Evelinessa]

double post

Modifié par Evelinessa, 21 décembre 2010 - 10:32 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

Evelinessa wrote...

Ok so I'm currently working on a renegon ME1 playthrough and I have a question for Garrus' loyalty mission in ME2. In ME1 I want to kill Dr. Saleon without trying to arrest him but in ME2 I want to save Sidonis(with possibly using a pargon interrupt for Harkin). I want to hear his confused dialogue and see what happens in ME3. I read on the ME Wiki that in order to spare Sidonis you have to have a high enough paragon score for the option to appear. I watched it on youtube to double check and I noticed the line to convince Garrus isn't in blue so does anyone know if I need a high enough paragon score or not? Because I doubt I will have enough paragon since I will be focusing on renegade.

Also I have an off topic question. For the character I'm doing now I plan for him to have a full renegade bar and I might save the council in the end. When you import the game into ME2 I notice that it says if you followed the renegade or paragon path and your council decision among other things. If I save the council will it automatically say I followed a paragon path or is the council thing seperate and it says I followed whatever I had more points in? I want it to say I followed a renegade path but I might save the council.

No, you do not need paragon points to save Sidonis.  It might be confusing since the option is in the typical "Blue Paragon Persuade" slot.

And as far as I can tell, the game does not care whether you had more Paragon or Renegade points except for the purpose of giving you some bonus points for ME2.  Each decision has a separate "flag."  You can be Renegade, save the Council, punch puppies on Sundays, save orphans on Tuesdays, and the game will track each value separately.  You can be Renegade and take Paragon plot actions, and vice versa.

[Evelinessa]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Evelinessa wrote...

Ok so I'm currently working on a renegon ME1 playthrough and I have a question for Garrus' loyalty mission in ME2. In ME1 I want to kill Dr. Saleon without trying to arrest him but in ME2 I want to save Sidonis(with possibly using a pargon interrupt for Harkin). I want to hear his confused dialogue and see what happens in ME3. I read on the ME Wiki that in order to spare Sidonis you have to have a high enough paragon score for the option to appear. I watched it on youtube to double check and I noticed the line to convince Garrus isn't in blue so does anyone know if I need a high enough paragon score or not? Because I doubt I will have enough paragon since I will be focusing on renegade.

Also I have an off topic question. For the character I'm doing now I plan for him to have a full renegade bar and I might save the council in the end. When you import the game into ME2 I notice that it says if you followed the renegade or paragon path and your council decision among other things. If I save the council will it automatically say I followed a paragon path or is the council thing seperate and it says I followed whatever I had more points in? I want it to say I followed a renegade path but I might save the council.

No, you do not need paragon points to save Sidonis.  It might be confusing since the option is in the typical "Blue Paragon Persuade" slot.

And as far as I can tell, the game does not care whether you had more Paragon or Renegade points except for the purpose of giving you some bonus points for ME2.  Each decision has a separate "flag."  You can be Renegade, save the Council, punch puppies on Sundays, save orphans on Tuesdays, and the game will track each value separately.  You can be Renegade and take Paragon plot actions, and vice versa.

Ok, that's good then. I wonder how it will affect ME3 if I made him go two different ways or if his ME1 sidequest and ME2 LM will even make any difference at all in ME3.

I know that it's possible for me to save the council even though I'm renegade.. I just don't know if the game will say I played renegade(It will say if I followed a renegade or paragon path when it shows you the choices you made for ME1 when importing to ME2)if I save the council. Sorry if you already answered my question and I'm just not getting it.

[Aeowyn]

If you're more renegade than paragon it will say you're renegade and vice versa. When I imported Ivy (profile pic) from ME1 (she was paragade with like half a bar more paragon than renegade) it said she followed the paragon path o.O

[Vequi]

So many pictures of serious Garrus posted recently. Needs more Happy turian!



Just started to post a while ago and my power supply died, but got the money to replace it and I'm back 

I watched the trailer for ME3 and so excited for it now. I hope we get to go to at least a Turian colony (if Palaven, even better). I just want to see more stuff Turian.

[Alienmorph]

Well the Garrus's files in LotSB foreshadow that he might have some personal business to solve at home. I guess it's very plausible that we'll have to do a little trip on Palaven.

[Sialater]

Tyrium wrote...

I'm guessing it has to do with who wants to save the council, the other one shoots. I know that if it is Tali or Liara, Garrus shoots. Not sure about anyone else - I can't remember with Ash, Kaidan's always dead by that point, and I haven't taken Wrex yet.

He shoots if Kaidan's with you, too.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Sialater wrote...

Tyrium wrote...

I'm guessing it has to do with who wants to save the council, the other one shoots. I know that if it is Tali or Liara, Garrus shoots. Not sure about anyone else - I can't remember with Ash, Kaidan's always dead by that point, and I haven't taken Wrex yet.

He shoots if Kaidan's with you, too.

Kaidan never shoots.  Who shoots is determined by the game's "scale" of which squaddies are more Paragon or Renegade.  You know how if you have a decision to make one squaddie will espouse the Paragon option, and the other the Renegade one, and sometimes they'll totally change opinions depending on who else is in the squad?  That's how the final cutscene to shoot Saren works.

I could be wrong, but I think the scale works like this from Paragon to Renegade (if you don't alter Kaidan or Ash's outlook):

Kaidan
Liara
Tali
Ash (not entirely sure where Tali and Ash always fall)
Garrus
Wrex

Your more Renegade party member is always the one who shoots Saren.  For me, it's almost always Wrex.  Because Wrex is winsauce.

[Sialater]

Ash is more renegade than Garrus, I thought. But yes, it's based on that sliding scale.

[Aeowyn]

You can alter their outlook?



Captain Gavorn! I'm looking forward to seeing him in ME3. Because with all the videos of him in LotSB I have a feeling he'll be in the third game. More turians!

[Sialater]

You can alter Ash and Kaidan's POVs, yes.



But, that only moves Ash up a notch. I'm not sure it moves Kaidan. But paragoning Saleon doesn't move Garrus at all.

[Aeowyn]

Wow, I must've been asleep when I've spoken to them. How would I do that? Usually when romancing Kaiden I always went for the top options. I'm guessing the conversations change somewhat to let you know how their views have changed?

[Sialater]

You can only change their minds in their romances.

[Aeowyn]

Interesting. Will give it a go on my next playthrough. Thanks for the info, Sia.

[Sialater]

If you want the full set of instructions for both, visit the Ash and Kaidan threads.

[Kim Shepard]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Ashley is more Renegade than Garrus on the scale. That kind of thing is so confusing though, and I'm glad the "one squadmate must have a Paragon opinion and one must have a Renegade opinion" stuff was mostly gone from ME2. I want to hear their actual opinions, not their changing opinions because your second squadmate is more Paragon or Renegade than they are.

Sometimes, it doesn't even work. I brought Tali and Garrus to the rachni queen, but Tali was the one who said we should kill her and Garrus said we should save her. (Of course, this messed up my whole Noveria playthrough because my current Shepard was supposed to reconsider his decision to kill the rachni queen because of the squadmate's objection, and Garrus' objection didn't do it for him. xD) That goes against the scale, which says Tali is more Paragon than Garrus.

I hope that system is completely removed from ME3. The only time I remember it being in ME2 is during Legion's recruitment mission, when one squadmate objects to taking Legion with us. On my first playthrough, Tali was the one who said it - that made sense, and I didn't think anything of it. When I replayed the mission just for fun, I brought Garrus and Thane, and Garrus was the one who objected to bringing a geth on board. Sure, it makes more sense for Garrus to say it than Thane, but it really confused me when Garrus seemed so against recruiting Legion, as he never mentioned any distrust before. Now we can only make an educated guess about Garrus' real opinions.

[Alienmorph]

In ME1 Tali is more renegade than Garrus... I guess it was the natural quarian cinism they developed after centuries of exile. She's the one between them than also suggest to let the Council die in the final battle if you to trought the Conduit with them too. In ME2 their rholes got almost inverted... but it's quite easy to guess why... Tali spent two years trying to became a leader (unsussesfully), following the expectations of her father and the example of Shepard... Garrus settled on Omega and became a vigilante...

Modifié par Alienmorph, 21 décembre 2010 - 09:39 .

[Aeowyn]

@Kim: I think Garrus was against recruiting Legion because, well, it's a geth. We don't know if it's good or bad (sure he saved them but that doesn't mean anything), and since they spent the majority of the first game fighting geth, I can understand his reluctance to bring it to the ship.



I agree though on the paragon/renegade arguments amongst your crew. Since I always had Wrex and Garrus with me, it was only natural for Wrex to be pro-Rachni Queen killing. I'd prefer to have them speak their mind, and then let the player decide. Kind of like DA without the approval points.