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[Pacifien]

Re: turian facial markings

Wonder if they can be ancestoral roots. Garrus might have grown up on Palaven, but was he born there? Or if he was, was his father or grandfather? It's like kilts or something.

Modifié par Pacifien, 06 juillet 2010 - 02:32 .

[Giggles_Manically]

I am about to do Garrus loyalty mission, If I am going to romance him, how do the rest of you do it?



He saved my but from three husks with two head shots and a nice concussive shot on the collector ship. That deserves some loving I guess.

[Collider]

Giggles_Manically wrote...
I am about to do Garrus loyalty mission, If I am going to romance him, how do the rest of you do it?

I rotate the left thumbstick to the option that says "Let's release stress together." After several tribal chants and smearing my face in war paint.

EDIT: misinterpreted. hehe

Modifié par Collider, 06 juillet 2010 - 02:36 .

[Pacifien]

The Garrus fans are as split as everyone else on how to do his loyalty mission. You can't lose his loyalty, so it's all up to who you feel your Shepard is, who you feel Garrus is, what you feel is right.

[Collider]

Generally speaking, most Garrus fans lean towards the paragon route. I had him kill Sidonis, but my F!Shepard spared Sidonis.

[Pacifien]

My Shepard always spoke to Sidonis. It was important that Garrus not shoot him. Not because Sidonis didn't deserve it, but because Garrus had completely beaten himself up over what happened to the other ten men. As a Turian, he believed their deaths were his failing. The idea he ever let Sidonis into the group only to have him crumble under pressure was all Garrus's failing again. That's the Turian way, when a subordinate fails, it reflects poorly on the superior officer.

But I wanted Garrus to see how far Sidonis had fallen. For him to see that good men fail horribly for reasons beyond Garrus's control. For him to see Sidonis and choose not to shoot him because he realizes he is better than that.

Modifié par Pacifien, 06 juillet 2010 - 02:45 .

[silentstephi]

mrsph wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Re: turian facial markings

Wonder if they can be ancestoral roots. Garrus might have grown up on Palaven, but was he born there? Or if he was, was his father or grandfather? It's like kilts or something.

Garrus says something about how Virmire reminds him of where he grew up on Palaven. I'd say it's a safebet he was at least raised there for awhile.

Quoth the wiki

teh wiki sez...
Since the Unification War, turians normally wear elaborate facial
tattoos marking their colony of origin, though it is not known which
markings distinguish which colony. These tattoos are usually white —
particularly on turians with darker carapaces — but can be of various
colours. Garrus Vakarian's markings, for example,
are dark blue. As a point of interest, the turian term 'barefaced'
refers to one who is beguiling or not to be trusted. (It should be noted
that Saren Arterius and Warden Kuril do not bear any facial markings).
It is also a slang term for politicians.

Since the Unification war... hrm.  If you then read the blurb on the Unification War...

teh wiki lulz...
The turians had already discovered several mass relays and spawned
colonies throughout the galaxy when the asari
reached the Citadel. At about the time the asari were forming the Council with the salarians, the turians were embroiled in a
bitter civil war next door. The Unification War, as it was later named,
began with hostilities between the colonies furthest from the turian
homeworld, Palaven.
These colonies were run by local chieftains, many of whom had
distanced themselves from the Hierarchy. Without the galvanizing
influence of the government, the colonies became increasingly isolated
and xenophobic. Colonists began wearing emblems or facial markings to
differentiate themselves from members of other colonies and open
hostilities became common.
When war finally broke out, the Hierarchy maintained strict
diplomacy and refused to get involved. After several years of fighting,
fewer and fewer factions remained until the Hierarchy finally
intervened. By that time, the chieftains were too weak to resist; they
were forced to put an end to fighting and renew their allegiance to the
Hierarchy. Though peace was restored, it took several decades for
animosity between colonists to fade completely. To this day, most
turians still wear the facial markings of their home colonies.

Hrm... I wonder.  Fewer factions... maybe it seems like the commonalities might be factions taking over smaller ones... and the markings started blending?  It seems strange that Palaven would have a facial marking, since it's NOT a colony... and far from the war (at least that's the hint.)

Maybe it's just become habit?  Maybe his mother/father came from a colony, and he's adopted their markings, even though he grew up on Palaven?

[Collider]

I put justice above all in my decision. Sidonis was willing to let 10 people die to keep his life. And he was still at large and unpunished.



My Shepard thought Garrus was probably justified in wanting to take his life.



Both of the options are good, in my opinion. The paragon route definitely yields more dialog.

[Cerrydd]

OH GOD IT'S SIDONIS AGAIN

A perfect time to go to bed again XD

Goodnight folks!

[silentstephi]

Cerrydd wrote...

OH GOD IT'S SIDONIS AGAIN
A perfect time to go to bed again XD
Goodnight folks!

You so silly.
You could always just link to your WoT before you snug off like that :innocent:

[Pacifien]

Cerrydd wrote...
OH GOD IT'S SIDONIS AGAIN

>:/

[Kim Shepard]

Technically, both the Paragon and Renegade solutions are "right" because you can't fail Garrus' loyalty mission. There is no wrong option. Just choose the one that works best for your Shepard.

My Shepards tend to go Renegade in Garrus' missions. It was pretty awesome that the romance started right after my MainShep helped him kill Sidonis though. xD I really thought it would be the next conversation and the whole Sidonis thing would have its own.

[Collider]

I agree, Kim. Both routes are right. They achieve the same result - Sidonis no longer haunts Garrus. I did have Garrus kill Sidonis right off the bat, but I like the paragon route is great too.

[Pacifien]

Kim Shepard wrote...
My Shepards tend to go Renegade in Garrus' missions. It was pretty awesome that the romance started right after my MainShep helped him kill Sidonis though. xD I really thought it would be the next conversation and the whole Sidonis thing would have its own.

Well, you know, one more conversation with Garrus would have been nice....

Modifié par Pacifien, 06 juillet 2010 - 03:42 .

[Collider]

Pacifien wrote...

Kim Shepard wrote...
My Shepards tend to go Renegade in Garrus' missions. It was pretty awesome that the romance started right after my MainShep helped him kill Sidonis though. xD I really thought it would be the next conversation and the whole Sidonis thing would have its own.

Well, you know, one more conversation with Garrus would have been nice....

Yes it would have. The two returning squad mates from ME1 had the lowest amount of conversations. Mordin had the most...which is actually pretty awesome.

[kglaser]

If anyone had to have the most and it's not Garrus, then Mordin is a great choice.

[Collider]

kglaser wrote...

If anyone had to have the most and it's not Garrus, then Mordin is a great choice.

Yea. He's definitely one of my favorites.

[Pacifien]

Collider wrote...
Yes it would have. The two returning squad mates from ME1 had the lowest amount of conversations. Mordin had the most...which is actually pretty awesome.

I know Garrus's dialogue count is well known, but when I was keeping track of conversations for everyone, there was this constant <_< as I kept the tally for Garrus at 1.

But I also kept track of how many different ways Mordin would tell you to leave him alone, he's doing science. Or the ongoing tales of Jessie. Or how many different ways Joker can waste time as you are hovering behind him. Or Kasumi's gossip of the ship.

Joker's in particular amused me. Like they just kept the voice recorder recording while Seth Green was completely goofing off in between actual line readings. Should do that with everyone. Hover behind Garrus long enough, suddenly hear him start humming or wondering if his insurance will cover medical bills.

Modifié par Pacifien, 06 juillet 2010 - 03:52 .

[Kim Shepard]

When I get around to my MaleShep playthrough, he'll make Sidonis talk before Garrus kills him. He's not trying to convince Garrus to let him live though - MaleShep wants Sidonis dead, he just thinks Garrus will get more closure that way. I didn't even know that was an option at first, but MainShep wouldn't have done that anyway. The first chance she got, she moved right out of the way.

Yeah, more conversations with Garrus would be great. I didn't mind it being in the same conversation, I just thought it was kind of funny how quickly he seemed to get over Sidonis. It's like he thanked Shepard and started talking about turian "sparring" and stress relief. xD Definitely MainShep's type though. She was in a good mood after Garrus' loyalty mission too. She enjoyed watching him beat up Harkin (payback for flirting with her in ME1) and kill Sidonis.

[Collider]

I made a count of how many times the Normandy crew talk out loud.



Diners:

1. Trigger: After first arriving on the Normandy.

2. After 2 main missions.

3. After 4 main missions

4. After 5 main missions (Horizon)

5. After Disabled Collector Ship mission

6. After buying supplies

7. Again after buying supplies

8. Again after buying supplies

9. After Suicide Mission



Two people in Crew Quarters room

1. After first arriving on the Normandy.

2. After one main mission.

3. After two main missions.

4. After 7 main missions.

5. After 8 main missions.

6. After 9 main missions.

7. After Suicide Mission



Pilots:

1. After 2 Main missions

2. After 4 main missions

3. After 8 main missions

4. After Disabled Collector Ship

5. After recruiting Legion

5. After Suicide Mission



Engineers: 1

1. After first arriving on the Normandy, after talking to them for the first time.

2. After 1 main mission.

3. After 2 main missions.

4. After recruiting Jack

5. After recruiting Grunt

6. After recruiting Tali

7. After recruiting Tali & Jack

8. After Suicide Mission



Probably not completely accurate, but that's what I recorded.

[praetor_alpha]

The only time I want Garrus to be renegade is with Saleon, way back when. But then I set him straight with Sidonis, that there's far worse punishment than what a rifle can give.

[silentstephi]

/going cross eyed...

I'm on page 1070... I didn't make the midnight cut off.

Damn it.

Ah well, almost done.

[Alexine]

That's good Stephi! We need to make you some cupcakes and buy some Garrus wine for your effort!

I was going through my second ManShep playthrough and I feel sad he doesn't reminisce about the good ole days (even when around 25% of his dialogue options are basically pointing it out). I hope in ME3 Garrus will say that and Tali correcting him. c:

[silentstephi]

Garrus Love and Adoration v2.0 Thread Archive

Is done.
At least, the raw data is.
Tomorrow I'll start working on the sub categorization.
Also, I might have gotten a bit punchy towards the end there, due to tiredness and also we kinda were getting ADD on topics. But most of the good WOTs have been found, and hopefully, with some help, we can put all the old stuff in easy to find places for people to see where brain pans have tread before.
It was funny reading some of the stuff on Archangel's recruitment, now that we have a bit more knowledge of turian culture... how Garrus's actions now are a bit more explainable. He may not have been holding a gun to his head... but he was going to suicide by merc. /nodnod
If this makes no sense... my b.
x.x
Night folks

Modifié par silentstephi, 06 juillet 2010 - 05:13 .