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[Sialater]

My husband was my friend, too. For about a year. Then we had our first date.



So yeah... there's a reason I like Garrus' romance.

[Aeowyn]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I agree with Ciaweth. I haven't romanced Garrus personally. Might do it at some point, though.

Wait Fiery, if you haven't romance Garrus does it mean you broke his heart to get that profile pic with the smirk?

[Fiery Phoenix]

Aeowyn wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I agree with Ciaweth. I haven't romanced Garrus personally. Might do it at some point, though.

Wait Fiery, if you haven't romance Garrus does it mean you broke his heart to get that profile pic with the smirk?

Well, my FemShep romances Thane; the avatar is from when I was bored out of my skull one evening and thought of experimenting romance-specific dialogue with both Jacob and Garrus. I simply ended up reloading after hearing what I wanted to hear. *taps nose*

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 17 janvier 2011 - 07:35 .

[SweetTeaholic]

Ok, I know the topic changed, but a few pages ago, I do believe someone meationed Garrus being 'Space Batman':



Sorry, couldn't resist posting this 

[Fiery Phoenix]

HAHAHAHA! Totally saving this!

[Kim Shepard]

I really like the idea that the Council considers Shepard to be "Saren 2.0" and wants to have him/her arrested - mostly because Saren's my favorite and I think prison break scenes are awesome. If it wasn't for those two things, I would still be annoyed at the Council like I was on day one, looking for the "I just saved your lives!" button.

I'm sure if someone brought up how similar MainShep is to Saren, it would make her very happy. Spectre status? Check. Knowledge of the Reapers that the Council will never believe? Check. Visible glowing implants that match the color of her eyes? Check. A personal vengeance against one species due to the death of one or more family members? Check. Krogan, rachni, and geth armies? Check. Interrogation scene? Not as violent, but check. Infiltration of a factory to kill someone and leaving the innocents to die in a fire? If I had the Zaeed DLC, she would.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I wouldn't be surprised if ME3's "tutorial level" turned out to be a prison break, Kim.

[Sialater]

I think I proposed that ages ago. And you have to break your team out as a means of recruitment.

[Kim Shepard]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I wouldn't be surprised if ME3's "tutorial level" turned out to be a prison break, Kim.

Yay! BioWare, make it happen! It's one of those theories I've seen many times on the forums, so I hope that makes it into ME3.

I actually want the squadmates to have a part in breaking Shepard out of prison, sort of like DAO. The more specialists you have for different jobs - hacker, sniper, team leader, etc. - the less Shepard has to do on his or her own. It would be a nice bonus for those who saved every squadmate, or at least a lot of them, and it would still be possible for those who didn't. I want my Earthborn Ruthless to look like a badass and meet the team halfway, or something like that. (He saved everyone, I just imagine him to be an expert at prison breaks.)

I think Garrus should be an option for team leader and sniper.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Aeowyn, thanks for your reply a coupple of pages back, I'm satisfied with the answer that Garrus didn't want to work for the coucil when they started belittling the reapers and everything Shepard did.

As for Garrus' romance, between Shepard and Garrus' lines, I thought it was a FWB thing at first, but that didn't stop me because, hell, it's Garrus! But depending on how you read into it, it becomes much deeper than that. It is a relationship built on friednship and trust, and the fact that you can only romance Garrus if you recruited him in ME1 proves that.

For me, they drew closer to each other once they began to realise their mortality. Also, they have a lot in common, and they simply match. Garrus wants the relationship to go right, and Shepard doesn't want to make him feel uncomfortable. Breaking up with Garrus *cringe* also reveals that he was really into Shepard, especially seeming though Shepard's rejection was pretty harsh when compared to Thane's, for example.

Of course, if we are talking about Misty and Luna's Teandra, then she is a reckless flirt

[Kim Shepard]

I think a lot of people get the "friends with benefits" impression because of Shepard's lines rather than anything Garrus says. I like all of Garrus' lines, but there are so many scenes that I would have wanted Shepard to say something different. I can justify the romance starter line by my FemShep realizing that she has to be incredibly obvious to turians because they don't pick up on her subtle hints. (See, MainShep doesn't bother with subtlety. She just outright told Saren she loves him in front of his friends. Poor guy. xD)

Some of her other lines, like the options at the final romance scene, have no justification. I just imagine she said something different. Basically, I agree with the people who said Shepard gets what she wants out of relationship, whether that's friends with benefits or something much more. My FemShep never thought of it as friends with benefits, but others might. The same way my EvilShep can romance people just to use them, anyone can come up with their own reasons.

Modifié par Kim Shepard, 17 janvier 2011 - 09:04 .

[Eradyn]

I agree that the Garrus relationship is one of the most "open" insofar as where you want to place the boundaries. You could justifiably see it as "friends with benefits" or it can be more than that. Why? Because of LotSB.



I think it safe to say it started out, at least in the beginning, as merely "friends with benefits" in the sense of..."sure, we could try it out since we're friends and all."



By the time you hit the romance scene...you've reaffirmed your Shep wants to be with Garrus. You've gone through the reach and flexibility discussion, you've gotten through the Mordin lolChafing discussion, and you're in the cabin with Garrus and the poor guy's pouring his heart out to you.



You dump him and basically break him (evil bastards...you know who you are D< ) or you reaffirm, for the final time, that you want to be with him. Being that dumping him is the "let's just be friends" route...I think it might be safely alluded to the alternative being at least a wee bit more than "just friends."



Seeing Garrus wrestle with his doubt and disbelief and hope and worry...that doesn't strike me as "flingy." At least not from his corner. I get the sense from his conversations that an interspecies relationship, especially with Shepard, is not something he takes lightly at all.



That isn't to say players can't turn it back a notch...or ramp things up. LotSB is nice in that the player, for their own benefit, can give their Shep's relationship with Garrus more depth, or they can choose not to, during the final conversation with Liara in the cabin. So yeah...it seems the Garrus romance has a bit more flexibility (sorry) in how far reaching (and again) the relationship can be.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Eradyn wrote...

Seeing Garrus wrestle with his doubt and disbelief and hope and worry...that doesn't strike me as "flingy." At least not from his corner. I get the sense from his conversations that an interspecies relationship, especially with Shepard, is not something he takes lightly at all.

That isn't to say players can't turn it back a notch...or ramp things up. LotSB is nice in that the player, for their own benefit, can give their Shep's relationship with Garrus more depth, or they can choose not to, during the final conversation with Liara in the cabin. So yeah...it seems the Garrus romance has a bit more flexibility (sorry) in how far reaching (and again) the relationship can be.

Teehee! I love this!
I think that Garrus has the most realistic lines out of all the LI's. I don't like how forward Shepard is at first, but I recognise with turians, you need to be direct. However, she did redeem herself later with the 'I don't want to make you uncomfortable line.' And then Garrus has the perfect reply: 'You don't ever have to worry about making me uncomfortable. Nervous, perhaps, but never uncomfortable.' And that there is where they show care.
It is very open to interpretation though, and I love how Bioware have done that, because I know they were tip-toeing with the Garrus romance because he is a 'non-humanoid' alien. I have heard people who think that Garrus and Shepard didn't even sleep together, my Shepard did.
But again, you can fill in the gaps with your own imagination.

[Squeeze the Fish]

A thought: I don't know if I believe they went "all the way" that night in Shep's room.

EDIT: "I have heard people who think that Garrus and Shepard didn't even sleep together, my Shepard did."

-ed

Modifié par Squeeze the Fish, 17 janvier 2011 - 10:33 .

[Kim Shepard]

I think Shepard can feel however the player wants her to feel about Garrus, even if it's never "confirmed" with in-game dialogue. Some Shepards just might not be the type to put that sort of thing into words. Some Shepards might just think it's too soon to start talking about the future so soon in their relationship, especially with the possibility that one or both of them could die in the suicide mission. If I had LotSB, I wouldn't choose the line about Garrus. My FemShep wouldn't invite Liara up to her room for a talk at all, because that's out of character for her. That doesn't mean that she wouldn't say something similar to Garrus, if given the chance in ME3.

My MainShep loves Saren. Nothing in her in-game dialogue or actions contradicts that. It's a similar situation with Garrus, in a way. Nothing in the game contradicts Shepard being in love with Garrus, if that's the story you choose, and nothing says that it started out as "friends with benefits" from Shepard's point of view.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Squeeze the Fish wrote...

A thought: I don't know if I believe they went "all the way" that night in Shep's room.

EDIT: "I have heard people who think that Garrus and Shepard didn't even sleep together, my Shepard did."

-ed

I got there before you!
And Kim, the conversation with Liara was out of character for my Shepard too. They weren't that close in ME1, and my mainshep had to refuse her rather bluntly. I know it's DLC and it's great for those who romanced Liara, I thoroughly enjoyed LotSB. But it slightly annoyed me that there was more friendly banter and conversation between them two than there is between Shepard and Garrus for example. But I recognise that I am in the minority as there are a lot of Liara fans out there. I took Garrus with me and he was mute for the whole journey. Also Shepard jumped to save Liara rather than Garrus. But I guess it is her DLC so she should get some attention.
But I do love the line about finding peace in the arms of a turian. Because that is exactly how I see it. Garrus is the only one my mainshep fully trusts, and she can relax around him like she can't around anyone else.

[Kim Shepard]

But doesn't the line say that Shepard didn't expect to find comfort in the arms of a turian and that "everyone finds the asari attractive"? I know that last one is probably a joke, but my FemShep wouldn't joke about something like that. She doesn't find asari attractive, doesn't even like them, and the the only reason why she wouldn't expect to end up with a turian is if they keep turning her down... The only justification she could use for saving Liara is that the Shadow Broker would be aiming for her and "Garrus can take care of himself" (Shepard, you fool).

For MainShep, maybe she would save Liara if her thought process goes something like this -

SB: *attacks Liara*
MainShep: Go ahead. You're doing me a favor.
Liara: The Shadow Broker has information about Saren. If you save me, I'll transfer all of it to your omni-tool.
MainShep: O___O *flying tackle to safety!!!*

[Xalena]

Squeeze the Fish wrote...

A thought: I don't know if I believe they went "all the way" that night in Shep's room.

EDIT: "I have heard people who think that Garrus and Shepard didn't even sleep together, my Shepard did."

-ed

Well....with my Shepard *puts sunglasses* it happened TWICE with him! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeahhhh
lol and there will be more of aftrenoon delights with Garrus...
Hm.. it was out of my Shep to invite Liara into her cabin too but I invited her cos... She was waving in front of me with that shiny stuff (that chainlet..how you say it in english lol?) could not ressist >.<

[Shadow_Soul]

I have Chapter 1 of  Convict done. You guys gave me the idea with all the stuff about Shepard beinga convict in ME3. So, here is something like that for Lili. So it had Garrus of course...

[Leonia]

My Shepard is one of those who isn't exactly forthcoming with telling people how she feels or showing any sort of emotion. She was just as nervous as Garrus during all of their "flirting" but managed to put on a stronger face because she knows he's been through enough heartache for a lifetime (the guy is so darn hard on himself, even when he is successful).

I didn't really like some of the dialogue, well, ok, I liked it for a stoic leader who is trying to be tactful but I thought Garrus deserved a bit more. After all, he was pouring his heart out at many opportunities and when he says that Shepard is the one person he respects the most, I just wanted her to say "And you're the only person I can trust and rely on" or something. I don't know, I am a bit awkward with romance dialogue myself so it is a bit hard to fill in the gaps for Shepard who isn't exactly sure of what to say herself.

But she knows what she wants and sometimes actions just speak louder than words, right? That moment just before the headbump where she touches his face, that was my Shepard saying everything she couldn't put into words and praying that Garrus understood what she meant. Given the headbump and the arm touch afterwards.. I think he got the hint. I can't wait to go further with it in ME3, hopefully we'll get a dialogue option that lets us really say what we mean to say.

Also, I did have that personal conversation with Liara in LotSB even though it was mostly out of character for Leo. She wanted to tell someone, anyone, what was on her mind and Liara always had a way of putting her at ease, even if they weren't especially close and after Liara and her hugged.. it just sort of came tumbling out. I adore the line "I am fighting for Garrus." Now Shepard has some motivation, at long last, to fight against the Collectors/Reapers/Cerberus/whatever else other than "Just because I am the hero of the story". Still wish she could actually tell Garrus that but maybe she hasn't gotten that brave with expressing herself in front of him yet.

Soon though, two vigilantes (Leo is an Earthborn/Sole-Survivor with her own vigilante past) will come together and confide in each other as they could never do before with anyone else; it will be glorious. Ok, that sounded better in my head..

An aside, has anyone else pushed Garrus in the Renegade direction while keeping their Shepard Paragon or Paragade? 

Modifié par leonia42, 18 janvier 2011 - 03:36 .

[SweetTeaholic]

When it comes down to it, I think it matters on how you see it.

Personally, if you never got the hint yet with my question about fanfics earlier, I'm a pretty big Fem!ShepxGarrus fan. One of the reasons is that they been though a lot together and, won't lie, I have a love for interspecies relationships. 

My only problem I found in ME2 is that I wish the dialogue was better written. I found it to be a little too much 'friends with benefits' , but at the same time, it isn't like they don't care about eachother. Garrus seems to worry about her, and vise versa. I just wish the expanded a bit more, there's just tons you can do.

I just hope ME3, they grow on it more and not just make it a thing in the past. Otherwise, they'll have an angry mob of fangirls.

[Shadow_Soul]

Chapter 2 of convict is done! 

[GuardianAngel470]

Shadow_Soul wrote...

Chapter 2 of convict is done! 

Did your shepard actually do anything? Mine did in my Fan fic but since nobody even responds with a "I have no time" all the many times I've advertised my Garrus fiction I don't even feel like advertising this one.

[Kim Shepard]

leonia42 wrote...

Soon though, two vigilantes (Leo is an Earthborn/Sole-Survivor with her own vigilante past) will come together and confide in each other as they could never do before with anyone else; it will be glorious. Ok, that sounded better in my head..

I thought it all sounded good. It's nice that your Shepard is a vigilante too. She must have a lot in common with Garrus.

An aside, has anyone else pushed Garrus in the Renegade direction while keeping their Shepard Paragon or Paragade?

I'm not sure if I have any Shepards who could be considered Paragon (the Shepard I planned to be a Paragon turned out like Garrus - ruthless to the bad guys), but I have quite a few Paragades. They all encourage him to be Renegade.

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

nobody even responds with a "I have no time" all the many times I've advertised my Garrus fiction

Well, I've said a couple times before that I rarely read any fanfiction... that's basically the same thing.

Have you tried posting it in the fanfiction thread?

Modifié par Kim Shepard, 18 janvier 2011 - 08:55 .

[GuardianAngel470]

Kim Shepard wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Soon though, two vigilantes (Leo is an Earthborn/Sole-Survivor with her own vigilante past) will come together and confide in each other as they could never do before with anyone else; it will be glorious. Ok, that sounded better in my head..

I thought it all sounded good. It's nice that your Shepard is a vigilante too. She must have a lot in common with Garrus.

An aside, has anyone else pushed Garrus in the Renegade direction while keeping their Shepard Paragon or Paragade?

I'm not sure if I have any Shepards who could be considered Paragon (the Shepard I planned to be a Paragon turned out like Garrus - ruthless to the bad guys), but I have quite a few Paragades. They all encourage him to be Renegade.

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

nobody even responds with a "I have no time" all the many times I've advertised my Garrus fiction

Well, I've said a couple times before that I rarely read any fanfiction... that's basically the same thing.

Have you tried posting it in the fanfiction thread?

I have and have also noticed when you said that. You're excused so to speak.

But just so the rest of you know, there is a tactical nuke heading to each of your houses as we speak.

And by tactical nuke I of course mean J-bomb (also known as Jacob Bomb). He will get his priiize, just you wait...

*Laughs maniacally and then chokes*