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#17526
Leonia

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Someone from Bioware needs to put up a concept art, especially if we're going to see female models in ME3. Just so we can be clear on what the canon females look like. This is a bit upsetting.

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Kim Shepard wrote...

If you check back a few pages, there's a link to a picture in Evolution of a female turian. Unfortunately, she has no fringe.


Here, allow me to do a public service my minimizing the need for a search:

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Personally I'm still not quite sure what to make of this. I may very well just put it out of mind until I see some kind of concept art or rendering from Bioware and ME3 that either confirms this interpretation or blows it out of the water completely.

#17528
Kim Shepard

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I don't think it's been said if the female turian design was by BioWare or Dark Horse, has it? Either way, someone forgot/ignored/didn't know about the references in ME2 that say they have fringe. Even if Garrus' words could be twisted to mean that small piece of faceplate over her forehead, the turian at the bachelor party compares them to asari headcrests, which should suggest shorter fringes that only extend a little past the back of the head... not bald-headed turian females.

Anyway, I'm happy I found the comic. :) The turian female's fringe was the only thing I didn't like about it. Maybe there are females out there with different types of fringe. There have been quite a few turians with the same side-fringe as Saren in the comic too, so there is variety even if we don't see it in-game.

#17529
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So.... fringe aside... the male turians are better looking than the female turians?

#17530
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For the record, I reserve the right to alter my opinion once I see something that is iron clad in it's stance as being canon. That said, the female turian looks exactly like the males save for the lack of fringe. I'm not sure if saying "one is better than the other" is the right way to say it, but rather it just looks odd in relation to what we've seen and been accustomed to from the race thus far.



I don't remember if it's been pointed out in this thread or not yet, but the completely bald head, among other things, kind of contradicts the turians evolving all those plates to protect against Palaven's natural levels of radiation. Now, this is just rampant speculation, but the bald head could be a misinterpretation/design oversight on DH's part when Bioware were trying to convey something similar to the traditional plates instead of the male's fringe.

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You mean, shorter stubbier plates than the long thin sweeping ones the males have? I'll buy that.



Still like the look of the males better, though.

#17532
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In my opinion, they are. The fringe is one of the main things that made me think turians look awesome, and that Saren looks more awesome than most turians (because he has extra fringe). Without it, the females just don't look as cool to me. I'm getting used to it though.

#17533
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Though I am disappointed, I realized it's because she doesn't look female to are standards. Which I guess is a good thing, since it's actually "alien" to us.

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Turians don't look "male" to our standards, either. But their design is still attractive in an aesthetically pleasing sense.



Those turian women are not.

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I think turians are close enough to male by our standards. They look male to me. Even the woman... o_o

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Sialater wrote...

Turians don't look "male" to our standards, either. But their design is still attractive in an aesthetically pleasing sense.

Those turian women are not.



Well, that turian. I'm disappointed that there isn't anything attractive about her design, but like I said, because the males look more female then the females, that's something that's alien.

#17537
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I guess one of the things that bothers me is that without the fringe she looks more humanoid and that's one of the last things I wanted. But I guess that's DH's fault for rounding their heads out.

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Sialater wrote...

You mean, shorter stubbier plates than the long thin sweeping ones the males have? I'll buy that.


Exactly. I'm calling mis-communication on this one. Whether I'm right or not remains to be seen. We'll just have to wait for ME3 to come out. After all, waiting for the next game to come out is how we settled the male quarian debate/.

... I'm also not calling outright incompetence on Dark Horse's part. Over the past few days I think we've all played that card enough that it isn't in anyone's decks anymore.

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Is it just me, or does it look like they left off the mandibles, too?

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Fia1618 wrote...

I guess one of the things that bothers me is that without the fringe she looks more humanoid and that's one of the last things I wanted. But I guess that's DH's fault for rounding their heads out.


But they already had round backs to their heads. The pointy parts are just not there for that character.

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kglaser wrote...

Is it just me, or does it look like they left off the mandibles, too?


It's just in that one shot. They're there in the other one.

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kglaser wrote...

Is it just me, or does it look like they left off the mandibles, too?


It's just in that one shot. They're there in the other one.


Good...'cause in that shot, they almost look like this Garrus with the somewhat humanoid chin:
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(disclaimer: I always got a kick out of this picture, just wasn't too crazy about the chin of Garrus in it)

#17543
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TMA LIVE wrote...

Fia1618 wrote...

I guess one of the things that bothers me is that without the fringe she looks more humanoid and that's one of the last things I wanted. But I guess that's DH's fault for rounding their heads out.


But they already had round backs to their heads. The pointy parts are just not there for that character.

I'm just being nit picky, but their heads are actually longer then that. Posted Image
If you compare her with this image you'll see what I mean. But, again, I'm just being nit picky.

#17544
Kim Shepard

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I hope you guys are right about the miscommunication. So far, the only thing I didn't like from Dark Horse besides Genesis is the lack of fringe on female turians. I liked Redemption and Evolution so far. So it's not enough to make me think Dark Horse is bad, but enough that I worry about it a little.

kglaser wrote...

Is it just me, or does it look like they left off the mandibles, too?

Looking back at other pictures of her in the comic, her mandibles are shorter, come down to the bottom of her chin, and only have one piece pointed down at the end instead of two. Basically, it's like the male mandibles minus the larger piece that points down. I'm fine with that interpretation.

#17545
kglaser

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Ooh, that's a nice shot, Fia! :)
If I didn't love my current avatar so much, I'd be tempted to use that as my new one. :D

Modifié par kglaser, 20 janvier 2011 - 03:14 .


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Who is willing to make signatures "I support Fringes for female turians in Me3" etc etc xD?

#17547
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Xalena wrote...

Who is willing to make signatures "I support Fringes for female turians in Me3" etc etc xD?


Paging Xsause... ;)

#17548
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I'm jealous of all these people who can draw turians. I want to draw turians!

#17549
Kim Shepard

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I don't know how to make banners. xD If I did, I'd have a Saren support banner by now.

...I just realized why I think the female turian looks so masculine and strange to me in the first picture, but I got used to her appearance in the later pictures. With the green tint in her skin and the round, bald head, she reminds me of a batarian from the side-view. All or most of the pictures after that are front-view, where it's not as obvious.

#17550
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There was a tutorial at one point...I used it to draw a passable turian likeness.
I don't remember where it was...

eta:  ok, this is funny. :P
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Modifié par kglaser, 20 janvier 2011 - 03:20 .