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[Dark_Helmet]

ciaweth wrote...

Dark_Helmet wrote...

Garrus Thread.

'Sup, homes?

Very little.

[Giggles_Manically]

In ME2 the problems for me was this about the romances:

Almost no converstaions,3 in ME2 as a lead up and all were very short, compared to about 6 and the locker scene in ME1

No real build up just hey i am interested and lets do it.

The romance scene in ME1 had a build up, amazing culmination, and after convo.

While in ME2 we get a build up, but a fade out or some grinding, and no after convo.



While I like their emotional level they bring in ME2, the scenes just seems lacking so much compared to ME1. I hope Bioware brings the same level back in ME3.

[Collider]

Heh, I cannot disagree with you more giggles_manically.

[Kim Shepard]

I don't like the idea of the squadmates romancing anyone other than Shepard... I have so many Shepards planned out, it would feel like they're getting cheated on. (Besides, Shepard can't spend too much time being a matchmaker. He/She has a galaxy to save!)

A female turian squadmate would be nice, even more so if she's a romance interest. And whichever MaleShep I choose for that would not be scared off by turian smiles. He will like turian smiles because they're awesome.

Steel Dancer wrote...

"Oh, and the night before Ilos? It doesn't happen to everyone, it does matter, and it is a big deal!"

Ok, now it's renegade enough.

I know this line from somewhere... but where? xD

[Nilfalasiel]

Kim Shepard wrote...

Steel Dancer wrote...

"Oh, and the night before Ilos? It doesn't happen to everyone, it does matter, and it is a big deal!"

Ok, now it's renegade enough.

I know this line from somewhere... but where? xD

Friends. Rachel to Ross.

EDIT: (I misread what Collider wrote, lol) I agree with Giggles: the romances in ME1 had a better buildup, if not better romance partners. It wouldn't be quite so bad if the ME2 romances weren't unequal: Jacob gets more romance convos than Garrus for example. And some squaddies acknowledge the pre-Omega 4 scene (eg. Jacob, Tali), whereas others don't (Garrus). The ME1 romances were treated more or less equally in that department.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 07 juillet 2010 - 11:09 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Collider wrote...

Heh, I cannot disagree with you more giggles_manically.

Feel free to its  a free thread. But to be honest the romances in ME2 compared to ME1 were very rushed to me and lacked the detail that ME1 had. While the emotion was there since you can feel Thane and Garrus' nevousness or Tali's fear in the scene, they lacked the buildup through the whole game or the ending ME1 had.

ME1 had an amazing scene and feeling to it, while ME2 seemed to say "oK! enough mushy stuff we havent killed anything in 5 minutes!" They just felt weak to me.

[Kim Shepard]

I prefer the ME2 romances, but my opinion is totally biased because I like the ME2 romance options better. xD Out of six squadmates in ME1, the three I liked best were the ones who weren't romance options.

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Kim Shepard wrote...

Steel Dancer wrote...

"Oh, and the night before Ilos? It doesn't happen to everyone, it does matter, and it is a big deal!"

Ok, now it's renegade enough.

I know this line from somewhere... but where? xD

Friends. Rachel to Ross.

So that's why it sounded familiar.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

In ME2 the problems for me was this about the romances:
Almost no converstaions,3 in ME2 as a lead up and all were very short, compared to about 6 and the locker scene in ME1
No real build up just hey i am interested and lets do it.
The romance scene in ME1 had a build up, amazing culmination, and after convo.
While in ME2 we get a build up, but a fade out or some grinding, and no after convo.

While I like their emotional level they bring in ME2, the scenes just seems lacking so much compared to ME1. I hope Bioware brings the same level back in ME3.

I agree with you whole-heartedly Mr.Giggles.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Hello BlazenGlazen and the rest of the merry Garrus fans.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

silentstephi wrote...

Hahaha the return of the translation party. If Blazen comes back from CDN, he'd be all over that. XD

Every time a translation partys a runnin, a blazen grows its wings.

http://www.translati...y.com/#7589855' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'> Did i ever tell you that turians hate the cold?

[Giggles_Manically]

Simply put folks if ME3 becomes what ME2 was to ME1, then it will be little better than a Halo clone, with the occasional choice thrown in for drama. ME is an RPG as well not just a shooter.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Simply put folks if ME3 becomes what ME2 was to ME1, then it will be little better than a Halo clone, with the occasional choice thrown in for drama. ME is an RPG as well not just a shooter.

I really hope thats not the case though. But to tell you the truth i actually liked ME2 better then ME1.

Oh and hello Mr.Admiral of cheesecake land

[Giggles_Manically]

Dont get me wrong I loved ME2 but losing so much dialouge, and having some garbled free-form recruitment style over actual big story missions was wierd. I hope Bioware listens and sees that the combat should stay, but losing so many RPG elemets is bad. If not then I guess we can hope that the next Dragon Age dosent turn into a Samuri Dynasty clone.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Dont get me wrong I loved ME2 but losing so much dialouge, and having some garbled free-form recruitment style over actual big story missions was wierd. I hope Bioware listens and sees that the combat should stay, but losing so many RPG elemets is bad. If not then I guess we can hope that the next Dragon Age dosent turn into a Samuri Dynasty clone.

The problem was that bioware actually listened more to what people were saying rather then what they had planned. Unfortunately more people wanted Mass Effect to have more action and better gameplay and thats basically what they did. Now everyone is saying to add more story and plot into future dlc and ME3, i'm kind of hoping they don't completely sacrifice the gameplay for the plot and story either.

[Neria Rose]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Collider wrote...

Heh, I cannot disagree with you more giggles_manically.

Feel free to its  a free thread. But to be honest the romances in ME2 compared to ME1 were very rushed to me and lacked the detail that ME1 had. While the emotion was there since you can feel Thane and Garrus' nevousness or Tali's fear in the scene, they lacked the buildup through the whole game or the ending ME1 had.

ME1 had an amazing scene and feeling to it, while ME2 seemed to say "oK! enough mushy stuff we havent killed anything in 5 minutes!" They just felt weak to me.

I don't need a nude scene to think it was amazing. I loved the scene with Garrus, though I do wish I could have had a hug or a kiss on his forehead. In fact, I found the ending scenes for all of the ME2 romances I've watched, except perhaps Jacob and Miranda, to be superior to the ME1 scenes. That's not to say the ME1 scenes were bad. They weren't (at least Kaidan's wasn't), but ME2 scenes were definitely cuter and more endearing.

Concerning build-up, I consider ME1 as part of the build-up for Garrus' and Tali's romances. Garrus/Tali and Shepard were close due to the previous game. They already trusted each other in ME2. No other romance has that.

[ciaweth]

Although I have firm opinions on the subject, I'm trying very hard to reserve final judgement on all the romances (even Jacob's) until ME3 comes out and the story ends.

[Collider]

I agree with Neria. Whereas the scenes in ME1 were done tastefully, they were copy and paste. All of the scenes for all of the love interests were the same. Contrast that with ME2 - where all of the scenes are tailored to the character specifically. You may have Garrus bringing wine, music, etc.



Jacob and Miranda's romance scenes weren't that great, the former for bad dialog, the latter for lack of dialog, which proves that skin =/= good romance scene. The other romance scenes, were superb. And they employed a lot more emotion.

[Brass_Buckles]

I just hope that saving my entire squad is worth it in the end. What's the point of spending hours on recruiting people and making them happy through loyalty missions if I can't have them around in ME3?



I'll be especially angry if Garrus and Tali are no longer around, because, you know, they've already been in 2/3 of the story.

[Cra5y Pineapple]

I thought ME2 romances were better for several reasons.

-Seemingly more soul and plot to them (ex. Jacks' [showing a softer side], Thanes' [seeing his dead wife in Shepard]).
-More of them.
-Cuter romance scenes. Sure, some yummy action is good but the romance scenes seemed a little more intimate in ME2 because it seemed more like romance and not a pr0nz0. This is coming from a man =P
-Overall better dialouge.
-Garrus and Tali.
-Not ruined later on when you discover Kaidan/Ashley has become a bag of crap and Liara has become her mother.

Modifié par Cra5y Pineapple, 08 juillet 2010 - 12:00 .

[lovgreno]

Brass_Buckles wrote...

I just hope that saving my entire squad is worth it in the end. What's the point of spending hours on recruiting people and making them happy through loyalty missions if I can't have them around in ME3?

I'll be especially angry if Garrus and Tali are no longer around, because, you know, they've already been in 2/3 of the story.

I realy want to keep the romance and bromance with Wrex, Tali and Garrus going in ME3.

[kglaser]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Collider wrote...

I think as far as squad mates having a relationship with other characters besides Shepard, I think it should only happen if Shepard steers them in that direction. Like Shepard hooking up Kal with Tali, or Garrus with a nice turian. If Shepard doesn't though, it shouldn't happen, IMO. I think this is the best way to please all fans. Romance interests won't hook up with other people on their own, but they will if the player wants them to.

This sounds like a good idea. I approve!

@ kglaser: 2nd, 3rd and 4th thoughts =

One for each tooth on the side nearest him

silentstephi wrote:
Hahaha the return of the translation party. If Blazen comes back from
CDN, he'd be all over that. XD

What is CDN?  Why ISN'T Blaze here?  He should be here... /grumble mumble blargh
edit:  ok so he is here. Mr. BlazenGlazen!  Where you been, I missed you!

Modifié par kglaser, 08 juillet 2010 - 12:50 .

[kglaser]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Hello BlazenGlazen and the rest of the merry Garrus fans.

"Grand Admiral Cheesecake"?  For real?

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

kglaser wrote...

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Collider wrote...

I think as far as squad mates having a relationship with other characters besides Shepard, I think it should only happen if Shepard steers them in that direction. Like Shepard hooking up Kal with Tali, or Garrus with a nice turian. If Shepard doesn't though, it shouldn't happen, IMO. I think this is the best way to please all fans. Romance interests won't hook up with other people on their own, but they will if the player wants them to.

This sounds like a good idea. I approve!

@ kglaser: 2nd, 3rd and 4th thoughts =

One for each tooth on the side nearest him

silentstephi wrote:
Hahaha the return of the translation party. If Blazen comes back from
CDN, he'd be all over that. XD

What is CDN?  Why ISN'T Blaze here?  He should be here... /grumble mumble blargh
edit:  ok so he is here. Mr. BlazenGlazen!  Where you been, I missed you!

Yes, i've now become obsessed with that site. Even made my own character and back story and all that role playing shutff. I'm usually here from time to time.

[silentstephi]

KG = Cerberus Daily News



Don't know why I kept calling it CNN (Cerberus News Netowrk) Ah well, probably copyright issues XD

[Giggles_Manically]

Cra5y Pineapple wrote...

I thought ME2 romances were better for several reasons.

-Seemingly more soul and plot to them (ex. Jacks' [showing a softer side], Thanes' [seeing his dead wife in Shepard]).
-More of them.
-Cuter romance scenes. Sure, some yummy action is good but the romance scenes seemed a little more intimate in ME2 because it seemed more like romance and not a pr0nz0. This is coming from a man =P
-Overall better dialouge.
-Garrus and Tali.
-Not ruined later on when you discover Kaidan/Ashley has become a bag of crap and Liara has become her mother.

I never pointed out the lack of skin as being a negative factor, I just wanted more dialouge leading up to it, and some right after like in ME1. Overall its like less than 5 minutes of convos. leading up to the end, when in ME1 a single converstation ran that long.