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[Kim Shepard]

Saren's known my Earthborn Ruthless long enough to accept the fact that he's a little bit insane and be surprised that he isn't more insane. xD He thinks this current level of insanity is amusing, and makes him easier to get along with. (Because really, how many Paragons could pal around with Saren?)

My FemShep who romances Garrus would definitely want to adopt orphans in the future because she was one. She might slow down with all of the running and killing, but I doubt it would ever stop completely. Same with Garrus. They're just the kind of people who can't ignore everyone who still needs to be saved. They probably wouldn't be quite so reckless when a family is involved though.

[aznsoisauce]

Collider wrote...

aznsoisauce wrote...

Garrus and Shepard will tire of escaping death eventually, right?
NOPE.tga

Will Garrus and Shepard ever stop being action heroes?


I do wonder, though. Is that the consensus? That Garrus and Shepard, as a couple, continue to fight the malevolent even after the reapers are defeated?

Hm...
I think Shepard and Garrus would get tired of each other before they got tired of battling malevolence.

[garrus and ashley fool]

would anybody have a problem if/when they get rid of shepard if garrus was the main character he is the only character i could see having his own game

[Dengarde]

Kim Shepard wrote...

Dengarde wrote...

Sup all. Anyone know where I can find the dialog for Garrus's mission with Dr. Saleon in ME1? I know there's something he says if you kill Saleon instead of him during the renegade path, but for the life of me I can't find it...

You mean the dialogue that happens if you don't bring Garrus on the mission? I thought the Wiki had it, but when I checked, it wasn't there. I've always brought him along, so I've never heard it.

No, not that one. Basicly, you promise Garrus that he gets to kill him, bring him along, and when Saleon tries to run, the one who kills him is you instead of him. He says something like "What the hell, Shepard?!"

Though I've never heard the one where you don't bring him either.

[Aeowyn]

"What the hell was that Shepard?"

"If you're gonna kill him, do it fast." Or something like that. I can load a save and check after work.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

I can see why you would think Garrus is the most likely one to have his own game. I don't think Bioware will do anything like that though. It doesn't coincide well with their history of doing things.



But seriously, how awesome would Garrus as the main character! Paragon and renegade options too.

And yeah, that is the line in ME1. I killed Saleon myself because at the point in his life, I didn't think it would sit well with Garrus.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

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And another question: Omega aside, who would Garrus pick (from the ME universe) for his squad? He needs leadership skills, he needs a squad, who do you think it would be?

[Sialater]

Do you mean now? After ME2?

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Yeah, after ME2, not while on Omega.

[Squeeze the Fish]

Kim Shepard wrote...

@Taitiana: If you respond with mostly "Paragon" dialogue choices, Garrus will say that he'll go back to C-Sec and apply for Spectre training. If you respond with mostly "Renegade" dialogue choices, Garrus will say tha he's going to apply for Spectre training. You don't specifically tell him which one to do, but what you say to Garrus will help him decide on his own.

@Liec: Thanks for the info. That "C-Sec asked me back, but I turned them down" line does sound familiar. So I guess confused Garrus does nothing until he leaves for Omega. xD

I think I'm a little out of the loop, but when I played ME1, Garrus never had that conversation with me at all. He didn't talk about what he wanted to do. When I first read stuff about that I was like, "WTF, Garrus?! I thought we were bros!" Then, on ME2 he just said something about going back to C-Sec for a while before leaving Omega. No mention ever about Spectre training except when he thought about it before Shepard.

I don't know if it was just a bug or what.

[Phaedon]

[CroGamer002]

Phaedon wrote...

And I was hoping it wasn't Photoshop.

Original.

[Phaedon]

Not really Photoshop.













MS Paint.

[leaderofpancakes]

Squeeze the Fish wrote...

I think I'm a little out of the loop, but when I played ME1, Garrus never had that conversation with me at all. He didn't talk about what he wanted to do. When I first read stuff about that I was like, "WTF, Garrus?! I thought we were bros!" Then, on ME2 he just said something about going back to C-Sec for a while before leaving Omega. No mention ever about Spectre training except when he thought about it before Shepard.

I don't know if it was just a bug or what.

This. This is what happens to me too, every time I play the game. It makes me really sad 'cause Garrus would obviously be an awesome Spectre and I'm worried that I'm gonna miss out on him becoming one in ME3.. 

[Squeeze the Fish]

leaderofpancakes wrote...

Squeeze the Fish wrote...

I think I'm a little out of the loop, but when I played ME1, Garrus never had that conversation with me at all. He didn't talk about what he wanted to do. When I first read stuff about that I was like, "WTF, Garrus?! I thought we were bros!" Then, on ME2 he just said something about going back to C-Sec for a while before leaving Omega. No mention ever about Spectre training except when he thought about it before Shepard.

I don't know if it was just a bug or what.

This. This is what happens to me too, every time I play the game. It makes me really sad 'cause Garrus would obviously be an awesome Spectre and I'm worried that I'm gonna miss out on him becoming one in ME3.. 

I'm guessing this is what happens if you're not pulled enough to either paragon or renegade.

[Aeowyn]

Actually, he should give you a neutral "thank you" - convo.

[Squeeze the Fish]

Aeowyn wrote...

Actually, he should give you a neutral "thank you" - convo.

Yeah, I got that, but that was it. He doesn't mention what he wants to do afterward. I thought the "thank you" convo was kind of sweet.

I guess I just brought it up because I thought someone was saying it was default for him to apply for Spectre training after ME1. I'm not saying he didn't, but in this playthrough, it's never mentioned.

Modifié par Squeeze the Fish, 02 février 2011 - 10:39 .

[leaderofpancakes]

He thanks me too. That's all he says. I just don't know what I'm doing wrong, is the problem that my Shepard doesn't have enough Paragon/Renegade points or that I haven't influenced Garrus to be enough Paragon/Renegade? If anyone has tips that would be great.

[Aeowyn]

Well then you both got the neutral option.

He doesn't go back to C-Sec nor does he apply for the Spectres.

And yes, it's because you didn't lean him towards paragon or renegade.

Modifié par Aeowyn, 02 février 2011 - 10:56 .

[garrus and ashley fool]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Rescued fro m page 2 with a screenie

And another question: Omega aside, who would Garrus pick (from the ME universe) for his squad? He needs leadership skills, he needs a squad, who do you think it would be?

i think he could pick some from characters to me and me2 and also some new characters in the his game if he was to lead it
and also garrus is really the only one to lead a team besides wrex and tali

[garrus and ashley fool]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

I can see why you would think Garrus is the most likely one to have his own game. I don't think Bioware will do anything like that though. It doesn't coincide well with their history of doing things.

But seriously, how awesome would Garrus as the main character! Paragon and renegade options too.
And yeah, that is the line in ME1. I killed Saleon myself because at the point in his life, I didn't think it would sit well with Garrus.

yeah i dont think they would do it either but it would be great even if he doesnt have his own me if it was an alternate version to the series where he had his own game not a continue of the series but just one for him

[Kim Shepard]

garrus and ashley fool wrote...

would anybody have a problem if/when they get rid of shepard if garrus was the main character he is the only character i could see having his own game

I think it would be a little strange and very unlikely to have a future Mass Effect game that involves playing one of our current squadmates. Depending on the way things end, it could contradict what happens in a lot of people's games if Garrus does something completely out of place from the epilogue description or what was implied. That's the unlikely part. The strange part would be playing a game where there are a lot of choices to shape our character, and a lot of different personality types that can be created from that, with a character like Garrus who already has a defined personality and set of morals. Either way, you'd probably have to choose between playing him out of character, or having very few options.

With that being said, I would totally buy the game on day one and expect it to be awesome on the off-chance they ever made something like that. I trust BioWare to make awesome games, and Garrus is my favorite squadmate. In this case, I think an Archangel comic that details the events on Omega and shows us what the people on his team were really like would be more appropriate though.

Aeowyn wrote...

"What the hell was that Shepard?"

"If you're gonna kill him, do it fast." Or something like that. I can load a save and check after work.

Wow, I've never heard that one. I thought the game wouldn't even recognize if Shepard shoots Saleon instead of Garrus. I was sure I did it once, but maybe I missed and Garrus was really the one who shot him...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

And another question: Omega aside, who would Garrus pick (from the ME universe) for his squad? He needs leadership skills, he needs a squad, who do you think it would be?

Definitely Tali, Thane, and Mordin. For those three, I have no doubt. He seems to be friends with Tali, or at least on good termms with her, and he's comfortable making jokes like he does with Shepard. I think those two are the closest because they've now had two adventures together (assuming you recruited Garrus in ME1 and Tali in ME2, when they're optional), so that feeling of going to hell and back is very familiar. As for Thane, Garrus respects his skills. Their personalities would work well together, and a conflict would be unlikely. We know that Garrus has worked secretly with Mordin before from his Shadow Broker dossier - and if Garrus trusts him with something like that, of course he would trust him to be on the team. Mordin's unique skills with science and medicine would also be useful.

The others are a little more complicated. I don't think he would attempt to work with Samara because of her strict code. It sounds like a more serious, deadly version of what he wanted to get away from at C-Sec. Even though he shares common revenge views with Zaeed, I don't think that partnership would work either. Zaeed doesn't care about the people Garrus would want to save, and there's probably some trust issues about Zaeed forming one of the merc bands who tried to kill him. He doesn't seem to trust Legion. If he knew what Grunt said about turians, I doubt he would trust Grunt either. I imagine he wouldn't trust Jack either. He'll trust a former ciminal Shepard, but Jack still acts very much like a criminal, and his views wouldn't sit well with her either.

He might ask Wrex and Liara for assistance, but probably not to be on the team, and I can't imagine him wanting to work with Kaidan/Ashley after his words to them on Horizon because the trust just isn't there. He's civil with the Cerberus group (Miranda and Jacob), but I don't think he trusts them. I'd say Kasumi has a 50-50 chance from what little I've seen about her. And Morinth, of course, is a definite no.

That long post was longer than I thought it would be. Who did I leave out? Oh yeah, everyone who's not a squadmate. xD And this was the short version.

[Leonia]

I agree with most of your assessment there, Kim. No need to worry about long posts

If such a game were to exist, it would be fun to meet new characters to team up with. Maybe keep one or two folks from ME2/ME1 around.

I always thought Tali was the closest character besides Shepard to Garrus, mostly due to their prolonged adventuring together but it would be fun to run into some of his other "old friends" from Omega or the Citadel. Surely he knew lots of people on both stations.

Modifié par leonia42, 03 février 2011 - 12:33 .

[garrus and ashley fool]

kim i couldnt see him asking wrex to work with him but everything else i agree with also i think jacob is possible as well

Modifié par garrus and ashley fool, 03 février 2011 - 12:46 .

[Kim Shepard]

leonia42 wrote...

I agree with most of your assessment there, Kim. No need to worry about long posts

Not worried, just... shocked. xD I normally only type so much about Saren. *waits not-so-patiently for Evolution #2* 

If such a game were to exist, it would be fun to meet new characters to team up with. Maybe keep one or two folks from ME2/ME1 around.

I always thought Tali was the closest character besides Shepard to Garrus, mostly due to their prolonged adventuring together but it would be fun to run into some of his other "old friends" from Omega or the Citadel. Surely he knew lots of people on both stations.

I wonder if Garrus brought anyone he knew from the Citadel with him when he left for Omega. Or were they all people he met after he left? It would be nice if the poor guy had some friends who are still alive.

garrus and ashley fool wrote...

kim i couldnt see him asking wrex to work with him but everything else i agree with also i think jacob is possible as well

That's why I specified that he might ask for help, but not work with him on the team. I doubt Garrus would trust Wrex to follow his orders, and I don't think Wrex would agree to follow them either. But depending on the mission, I could see him asking Wrex to lead a second team of krogan if necessary.

In Jacob's case... I don't know, some of his dialogue about Garrus confuses me. When Jacob insults him if Shepard dumps him for Garrus, he might have just been angry, but when Shepard tries to talk to him about his problems and Jacob breaks up with her, the way he says "Garrus might suit you better" gives off the impression that Jacob thinks Garrus has problems that need to be fixed. If that is what he thinks about Garrus, he wouldn't be likely to follow his orders. I'm not sure if Garrus could tell Jacob doesn't have a high opinion of him either. He said the Cerberus crew was polite, but didn't sound like he would (or could) make any friends with them.